Let's discuss baseballs "unwritten rules"

cedric ceballos

cedric ceballos

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Personally I think their outdated, corny, and a reason why less young kids play baseball these days. Dudes get butthurt off of players showing emotion while playing a kids game. I was watching that braves brewers incident from earlier and Brian McCann got butthurt the Brewers hitter showed emotion after hiring a home run and blocked the plate when he tried to score and the benches cleared and it made me wonder why million dollar a year baseball players act like such little babies over the most silliest stuff and hide behind the cop out known as baseballs unwritten rules.

I remember cole hammels intentionally drilled Bryce Harper last season and publicly acknowledged doing so. In the real world this is considered assault with a deadly weapon. In the Neanderthal like world of baseballs "unwritten rules" that's teaching a rookie respect and policing the sport.

A player will hit a home run and show natural emotion celebrating it and it rustles jimmies. The pitcher who gave up the home run will either purposely drill that batter next time or drill one of his teammates in response to him showing emotion. Meanwhile a pitcher can get a key strikeout and show tons of emotion and in the case of American League pitchers doesn't have to worry about batting and dealing with retaliation.

I just think those unwritten rules are outdated and stupid. I understand you take a risk of getting hit when you step up to bat and getting unintentionally accidentally hit by a pitch will sometimes happen and that's understandable.

However its rediculous to drill someone on purpose and I would love to see a player either press assault charges or beat the daylights out of the pitcher after the game in retaliation. Either that or mlb should give much bigger fines or suspensions in the cases of any intentional beanings.

Unwritten rules or not that garbage has no place in baseball in 2013.
 
Believe it or not...there are unwritten rules in the nfl and nba....

u "have to" run...punt on 4th and short..dink n dunk on 3rd and long...take knees when up by alot in the nfl.

no paddins stats while up alot...no hard fouls...no three pnt attempts unless the shot clock is winding down(to an extent)..u must dribble out the clock inside a minute if youre up(sasha vujacic..lol)...no triple double vulturing(ricky davis)....

either way. I agree on mlb....they need to step back a tad.....and hot doggers need to tone it down..theres a time and place for everything.
 
vindeezy said:
Believe it or not...there are unwritten rules in the nfl and nba....

u "have to" run...punt on 4th and short..dink n dunk on 3rd and long...take knees when up by alot in the nfl.

no paddins stats while up alot...no hard fouls...no three pnt attempts unless the shot clock is winding down(to an extent)..u must dribble out the clock inside a minute if youre up(sasha vujacic..lol)...no triple double vulturing(ricky davis)....

either way. I agree on mlb....they need to step back a tad.....and hot doggers need to tone it down..theres a time and place for everything.
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Wait what??

Most of those are completely untrue lmao.
 
Unlike other sports, there's no "penalty" for acting like an idiot in baseball, so it's up to the players of the game to dictate the penalty. Gomez hit a meaningless home run then pimped it like he just won the World Series and then started running his mouth, for no reason! McCann had every right to be pissed and back up his pitcher. I'd compare it to a guy high stepping to the end zone then turning and flipping the ball off the defender, it's disrespectful and somebody is going to get upset. The way you stop that is pegging the guy, or his teammate to send a message.
 
vindeezy said:
Believe it or not...there are unwritten rules in the nfl and nba....

u "have to" run...punt on 4th and short..dink n dunk on 3rd and long...take knees when up by alot in the nfl.

no paddins stats while up alot...no hard fouls...no three pnt attempts unless the shot clock is winding down(to an extent)..u must dribble out the clock inside a minute if youre up(sasha vujacic..lol)...no triple double vulturing(ricky davis)....

either way. I agree on mlb....they need to step back a tad.....and hot doggers need to tone it down..theres a time and place for everything.
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While pretty much all of this post is absurd, the NBA actually has WRITTEN rules that prevent trolling for triple doubles. You can't intentionally shoot at the opponent's basket. Also, you can't intentionally miss a shot on your own basket, either (Bob Sura, 2004).
 
pokeyneil30 said:
Unlike other sports, there's no "penalty" for acting like an idiot in baseball, so it's up to the players of the game to dictate the penalty. Gomez hit a meaningless home run then pimped it like he just won the World Series and then started running his mouth, for no reason! McCann had every right to be pissed and back up his pitcher. I'd compare it to a guy high stepping to the end zone then turning and flipping the ball off the defender, it's disrespectful and somebody is going to get upset. The way you stop that is pegging the guy, or his teammate to send a message.
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Why should his teammate get pegged though. Act like you've scored before. I get that but intentionally drilling someone with a 95mph fastball because they showboated is over the top. Potentially injuing someone over a celebration, thats to much. Its not even always about showboating either. Ryan Dempster drilled arod intentionally for no reason. Whatever problems arod has with mlb are irrelevant to dempster. Cole hammels drilled Bryce Harper just because. Some celebrations may be over the top but some pitchers get mad at even the slightest showing of emotion and take it as disrespect. Then some pitchers are complete traditionalists who will drill someone just because they hit a home run off them.

I really don't see why some MLB players act like little kids though. You see basketball players trash talking eachother all game long then dap eachother up like everything's cool after the game. If you get mad off someone celebrating a home run, you better show no emotion when you strike guys out otherwise its hypocritical.
 
Good thread OP but i disagree.

Theres showboating and then there's rubbing it in your opponent's face; which is unnacceptable in basically every sport at every level. Dude on the Brewers was really feeling himself though :lol: He looked childish and im sure he regrets the way he handled the situation.

I enjoy the fact that baseball is old school and the players are allowed to police themselves to a certain extent. We all know that 90% of the guys involved in these baseball scrums dont give a damn and are just pushing on each other just because, though :lol:

Hockey on the other hand ... those boys dont play :lol:
 
I think some of them are good rules and a part of tradition. I do think some of them are petty. If you watch your HR for a second too long it's a huge deal or flipping your bat. **** like that is stupid, enjoy your moment. I didn't mind the Braves all year long until Brian McCann became a female crying over BS and blocking the plate. Then we got Chris Johnson being the biggest female of all time trying to run up on son but behind the ump :smh:
 
Some make sense, some don't. Some situations call for action, others don't. It really is a case of when watching without bias, you can tell when guys are 'out of line' with their actons
 
7thAve btn 31stN33rd St said:
Did Carlos Gomez ever touch home plate?
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Naw...they still awarded him the run b/c McCann was obstructing.

Speaking of McCann, why wasn't he tossed?

On topic, baseball has some of the most overly sensitive athletes in the world. The "unwritten" rules absolutely suck. This is why I'm glad to see guys like Puig, Harper, etc. all being themselves and actually showing some emotion/passion when playing. If feelings get hurt along the way, oh well.
 
^ I Agree.

I obviously don't play in the MLB but year after year these dudes just make me laugh. How insecure are you? It's like a cult thing where if one guy gets a tad offended "We all have to get offended, we love to get riled up" and you have incidents happen where a guy mugs (whether right or wrong) and that alone is leading to BENCH CLEARING BRAWLS, punches, ejections, and then later suspensions. And it happens every single time. Honestly these guys will not admit it but they love when there is a chance to take out aggression...no matter what the situation is or how lame they look.
 
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read an article the other day talking about some of the lesser known superstitions that still get "enforced" (i'll see if i can find it)

**** is old guard and one of the many reasons why baseball is a dying "sport" (and one of the many reasons why i stopped wasting my time on it)
 
RyGuy45 said:
^ I Agree.

I obviously don't play in the MLB but year after year these dudes just make me laugh. How insecure are you? It's like a cult thing where if one guy gets a tad offended "We all have to get offended, we love to get riled up" and you have incidents happen where a guy mugs (whether right or wrong) and that alone is leading to BENCH CLEARING BRAWLS, punches, ejections, and then later suspensions. And it happens every single time. Honestly these guys will not admit it but they love when there is a chance to take out aggression...no matter what the situation is or how lame they look.
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I forgot who it was on the Braves that plunked Harper a few months back...dude did it b/c he thought Harper "admired" a HR a little too long. It was absolute crap b/c he really didn't do anything out of the ordinary. As a matter of fact, there was a comparison between Harper and Justin Upton (who homered earlier), and Upton CLEARLY took much longer to get out of the box due to watching the ball sail out and nothing was done. Harper, had every right to be pissed, and he was. I can't stand **** like this.
 
vindeezy said:
Believe it or not...there are unwritten rules in the nfl and nba....

u "have to" run...punt on 4th and short..dink n dunk on 3rd and long...take knees when up by alot in the nfl.

no paddins stats while up alot...no hard fouls...no three pnt attempts unless the shot clock is winding down(to an extent)..u must dribble out the clock inside a minute if youre up(sasha vujacic..lol)...no triple double vulturing(ricky davis)....

either way. I agree on mlb....they need to step back a tad.....and hot doggers need to tone it down..theres a time and place for everything.
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this post is just as terrible as the game of baseball
 
It's so ironic that the NBA is supposed to be the "thug" sport while baseball is supposed to be "America's pastime", yet displays of violence/aggression happen FAAAR more often in MLB than in NBA.


Seriously.. every other time I turn on Sportscenter and they're showing baseball highlights I'm seeing brawls, or guys charging the mound, or managers who are 50-60+ year old men getting in the face of umpires and arguing like children. And the anchors/announcers talk about it like it's "just one of those things".. yet if an incident like that happened in the NBA it would be discussed non-stop for two weeks.


How are these incidents any different?





Yet the Knicks-Nuggets incident was in the news cycle for weeks and was discussed ad nauseum. While that baseball brawl will be forgotten by next week. I know because when I was on youtube looking it up I saw dozens and dozens of other baseball brawls that I forgot/didn't even know about. I can really only think of that Knicks-Nuggets and Pacers-Pistons brawls when thinking about major NBA incidents in the past 10-15 years.

I guess violence is okay when it's the "good ol boys" doing it..
 
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JJs07 said:
I forgot who it was on the Braves that plunked Harper a few months back...dude did it b/c he thought Harper "admired" a HR a little too long. It was absolute crap b/c he really didn't do anything out of the ordinary. As a matter of fact, there was a comparison between Harper and Justin Upton (who homered earlier), and Upton CLEARLY took much longer to get out of the box due to watching the ball sail out and nothing was done. Harper, had every right to be pissed, and he was. I can't stand **** like this.
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Tehrehan. The ******g butthurt Braves :smh: and why the hell is Gerald Laird always in the middle of every single problem they have? You're the backup catcher, shut up.
 
Cedric Ceballos said:
Why should his teammate get pegged though. Act like you've scored before. I get that but intentionally drilling someone with a 95mph fastball because they showboated is over the top. Potentially injuing someone over a celebration, thats to much. Its not even always about showboating either. Ryan Dempster drilled arod intentionally for no reason. Whatever problems arod has with mlb are irrelevant to dempster. Cole hammels drilled Bryce Harper just because. Some celebrations may be over the top but some pitchers get mad at even the slightest showing of emotion and take it as disrespect. Then some pitchers are complete traditionalists who will drill someone just because they hit a home run off them.

I really don't see why some MLB players act like little kids though. You see basketball players trash talking eachother all game long then dap eachother up like everything's cool after the game. If you get mad off someone celebrating a home run, you better show no emotion when you strike guys out otherwise its hypocritical.
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You hit teammates because the guy that got pegged will handle the situation and probably go chew out the guy who was show boating. If I just got hit by a 95 mph fastball because my teammate did something stupid, best believe Ill be getting in his face to make sure it doesn't happen again.

I agree with a lot of points you made tho, pitchers are prima donnas and basically throw childish temper tantrums but then go on and stare hitters down after strikeouts and such

Then as far as the Bryce and a rod thing goes, nobody likes them. That's really the only explanation, do they deserve it? No. But again, nobody likes those players
 
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