Sportbike Club terrorizes family in a Range Rover in Manhattan (vid)

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DON RAMON said:
stop it. you're not answering the question i asked you.

you wrote: "By that I mean I would anyalize the situation very carefully by not being somewhere i have no bussneiss being in the first place especially with my wife and kids."

there was no alternate route. he was on the west side highway

so once again, he had no business being where exactly?
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Stop what dude you right I can't answer a question that has no logic.So the rest of traffic can magically vanish into thin air but he can't.Im going to put this as simple as i can to you.He had no business trying to play rambo with his family in the car or are you just ignoring that fact that he failed as a man to get his family out of harms way?
 
CreateDestroy said:
1. you past experiences don't mean anything to law enforcement
2. the driver is not going down because their is no evidence of wrongdoing
3. the biker getting run over = self defense due to the fact the range was getting attacked
4. your hype man is embarrassing himself, handle ya peoples
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You are really embarrassing yourself more so.
We can tell you upset. You typing in points now. Lol
Not even real sentences anymore.

Im not going to respond anymore though. 3 pages and i can already see that im debating against the RR defense attorney and family.
 
ISNx2 said:
CreateDestroy said:
1. you past experiences don't mean anything to law enforcement
2. the driver is not going down because their is no evidence of wrongdoing
3. the biker getting run over = self defense due to the fact the range was getting attacked
4. your hype man is embarrassing himself, handle ya peoples
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You are really embarrassing yourself more so.
We can tell you upset. You typing in points now. Lol
Not even real sentences anymore.

Im not going to respond anymore though. 3 pages and i can already see that im debating against the RR defense attorney and family.
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making a post about how you're going to stop making posts..... the rustle is strong
 
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DON RAMON said:
stop it. you're not answering the question i asked you.

you wrote: "By that I mean I would anyalize the situation very carefully by not being somewhere i have no bussneiss being in the first place especially with my wife and kids."

there was no alternate route. he was on the west side highway

so once again, he had no business being where exactly?
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Stop what dude you right I can't answer a question that has no logic.So the rest of traffic can magically vanish into thin air but he can't.Im going to put this as simple as i can to you.He had no business trying to play rambo with his family in the car or are you just ignoring that fact that he failed as a man to get his family out of harms way?
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its a really really simple question. lets say you're not with your family and driving alone on the highway and suddenly a huge pack of bikers drive by and now you have bikes all around your car. you have just been thrown into this situation so avoiding it is not an option, what would you do?
 
CreateDestroy said:
he was on 911 trying to get help before he ran over dude.... Don't think he was trying to prove anything kid

EDIT: why am i arguing with the hype man? who are you?
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Jus another guy on the internet Long story short F that guy in the RR and anybody that love him.Im not ya kid and further more you should put ya man crush aside from the facts jus because he drives something you will never be able to afford don't make it right.Look at ya avatar what are you 12 15 yrs old tops
 
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zx10kid said:
Jus another guy on the internet Long story short F that guy in the RR and anybody that love him.Im not ya kid and further more you should put ya man crush aside from the facts jus because he drives something you will never be able to afford don't make it right.Look at ya avatar what are 12 15 yrs tops
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getting mad at my avatar?..... that's what's hot in the streets? :smh:
 
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Magic1978 said:
You keep mentioning how they were driving. Who cares if they were driving illegally. He's not the cops. That's their job. He's supposed to be worried about his family, remember.

If you meet a obnoxious drunk person, do you engage them? Being publicly intoxicated is illegal and he might be unruly, but they are a threat, so you avoid them. One hundred men on motorcycles was a threat that should have been avoided instead of engaged. The police don't even engage them, because they are a threat.
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how is he gonna avoid them when they are everywhere on the road? did you see an open lane anywhere where the dude could just mozey on over and just speed off more? i didnt...he was surrounded at every angle...bikes swarmed his car....you dont see that??? they DID NOT LET him avoid it. 
 
zx10kid said:
 
Jus another guy on the internet Long story short F that guy in the RR and anybody that love him.Im not ya kid and further more you should put ya man crush aside from the facts jus because he drives something you will never be able to afford don't make it right.Look at ya avatar what are you 12 15 yrs old tops
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LoL - I sold my RR Sport Supercharge ...

Still think the bikers were the instigators ..

Furthermore, why are you using your secondary/third/forth account to make your point?

Man UP!
 
zx10kid said:
DON RAMON said:
stop it. you're not answering the question i asked you.


you wrote: "By that I mean I would anyalize the situation very carefully by not being somewhere i have no bussneiss being in the first place especially with my wife and kids."


there was no alternate route. he was on the west side highway


so once again, he had no business being where exactly?
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Stop what dude you right I can't answer a question that has no logic.So the rest of traffic can magically vanish into thin air but he can't.Im going to put this as simple as i can to you.He had no business trying to play rambo with his family in the car or are you just ignoring that fact that he failed as a man to get his family out of harms way?
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my question(s) is/are perfectly logical. i think i've been nothing, but rational and laid it out in a very simple way for you to understand and answer back, but you're intent on avoiding what i've asked you and instead choosing to reply with rhetorical statements (ie: "rambo," "failed as a man," etc)

now once again, you wrote: "By that I mean I would anyalize the situation very carefully by not being somewhere i have no bussneiss being in the first place especially with my wife and kids."

and my question to you again is: exactly where did the driver of this range rover have no business being? (that's a straight up question not lacking in logic at all)

1) on the road?

or

2) surrounded by a pack of bikers?

if you avoid the question i'm asking you again i'm going to have to bow out of this because it's saying more about you than it is about me
 
sea manup said:
 
its a really really simple question. lets say you're not with your family and driving alone on the highway and suddenly a huge pack of bikers drive by and now you have bikes all around your car. you have just been thrown into this situation so avoiding it is not an option, what would you do?
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Wow so you wanna take the family out of the situation so you can help give this guy a win.Not trying to act of pocket with you man because I can tell your an adult not like this create and destroy dude with the construction paper cut out wearing a nt hat for his avatar.Anyways back to the task at hand.Now if thats the case I own nothing slow in my garrage car or bike so i know the limit of both rider and driver so its really nothing for me to keep up at high speeds till i find the cops,police station or get to wherever i need to go to ensure nobody gets runover or vigilante justice gets the best of nobody that day.
 
We can strongly disagree on the topic but we don't have to get personal with each other, that's not really cool
 
zx10kid said:
 
Jus another guy on the internet Long story short F that guy in the RR and anybody that love him.Im not ya kid and further more you should put ya man crush aside from the facts jus because he drives something you will never be able to afford don't make it right.Look at ya avatar what are you 12 15 yrs old tops
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lol the ignorance....come on yo, you cant avoid what is obvious. dont matter how hard people swear they would "never be put in that situation cause i'd do this,this,that,this different" them dudes were looking for trouble from the jump....if they werent, they wouldnt have slapped up that prius in the earlier video and block all that traffic runnin reds like some funeral is ridin by and they have the right-a-way. i get it, you might have a bike and enjoy these things...but what if a hundred bikers surrounded u and when u tried to get away from their group, they follow you and entice you?
 
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zx10kid said:
 
sea manup said:
 
its a really really simple question. lets say you're not with your family and driving alone on the highway and suddenly a huge pack of bikers drive by and now you have bikes all around your car. you have just been thrown into this situation so avoiding it is not an option, what would you do?
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Wow so you wanna take the family out of the situation so you can help give this guy a win.Not trying to act of pocket with you man because I can tell your an adult not like this create and destroy dude with the construction paper cut out wearing a nt hat for his avatar.Anyways back to the task at hand.Now if thats the case I own nothing slow in my garrage car or bike so i know the limit of both rider and driver so its really nothing for me to keep up at high speeds till i find the cops,police station or get to wherever i need to go to ensure nobody gets runover or vigilante justice gets the best of nobody that day.
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but from the video i watched it seems like he was doing what you would do (keeping up at the same speed as the riders) until the one guy break checked him and he was not able to react fast enough
 
zx10kid said:
CreateDestroy said:
he was on 911 trying to get help before he ran over dude.... Don't think he was trying to prove anything kid


EDIT: why am i arguing with the hype man? who are you?
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Jus another guy on the internet Long story short F that guy in the RR and anybody that love him.Im not ya kid and further more you should put ya man crush aside from the facts jus because he drives something you will never be able to afford don't make it right.Look at ya avatar what are you 12 15 yrs old tops
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see with this kind of reply you're just showing everyone how incapable you are of carrying on a debate

i think it's pretty evident for people to see

my work is done
 
zx10kid said:
Not trying to act of pocket with you man because I can tell your an adult not like this create and destroy dude with the construction paper cut out wearing a nt hat for his avatar.
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Never seen a person start off a sentence sounding shook and end it sounding petty.
 
zx10kid said:
sea manup said:
 

its a really really simple question. lets say you're not with your family and driving alone on the highway and suddenly a huge pack of bikers drive by and now you have bikes all around your car. you have just been thrown into this situation so avoiding it is not an option, what would you do?
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Wow so you wanna take the family out of the situation so you can help give this guy a win.Not trying to act of pocket with you man because I can tell your an adult not like this create and destroy dude with the construction paper cut out wearing a nt hat for his avatar.Anyways back to the task at hand.Now if thats the case I own nothing slow in my garrage car or bike so i know the limit of both rider and driver so its really nothing for me to keep up at high speeds till i find the cops,police station or get to wherever i need to go to ensure nobody gets runover or vigilante justice gets the best of nobody that day.
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Magic1978 said:
You keep mentioning how they were driving. Who cares if they were driving illegally. He's not the cops. That's their job. He's supposed to be worried about his family, remember.

If you meet a obnoxious drunk person, do you engage them? Being publicly intoxicated is illegal and he might be unruly, but they are a threat, so you avoid them. One hundred men on motorcycles was a threat that should have been avoided instead of engaged. The police don't even engage them, because they are a threat.
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What a stupid comment really!

I have never cross the street, turned around, or stop and called the cops when I have approached a drunken person. I keep going about my way, if they tell me I can go or try to stop me to talk, I continue to walk to avoid them. If they get in front of me and try to check me ... then depending on the situation and how threaten I feel - I will have to handle it. Can the situation be avoided, probably so, but am I going to alter my life to avoid every situation that can potentially be have consequences, NO. If that was the case, the RR guy never should of have been driving in the first place.

Freaking stupidity running wild in this thread!
 
DON RAMON said:
my question(s) is/are perfectly logical. i think i've been nothing, but rational and laid it out in a very simple way for you to understand and answer back, but you're intent on avoiding what i've asked you and instead choosing to reply with rhetorical statements (ie: "rambo," "failed as a man," etc)

now once again, you wrote: "By that I mean I would anyalize the situation very carefully by not being somewhere i have no bussneiss being in the first place especially with my wife and kids."

and my question to you again is: exactly where did the driver of this range rover have no business being? (that's a straight up question not lacking in logic at all)

1) on the road?

or

2) surrounded by a pack of bikers?

if you avoid the question i'm asking you again i'm going to have to bow out of this because it's saying more about you than it is about me
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You are a rational talker i will say that but you are fabricating a chain of events that did not happen.You are trying to back me into a situation to side with the RR guy and its not gonna work.There are exits sir that you can get off .Why are you so intenet on trying to make this guy have a squeaky clean image.Im giving you the same answer I gave you the last two or three replies I gave you.As the head of my household I always have an escape route and know where to go and not go with my family or myslef.They both are wrong bikers and RR and you just cant except that I don't know what else to tell you man
 
ISNx2 said:
I want to respond to each thing you said, but i honestly feel as though you are smart enough to reread what youve said, then reread what i said then come up with a more reasonable thing to say.

But personally, i dont care if someone gets ran over or not.
Im invested in the fact that this mans family was in the car and it could have been avoided.
Everything after that, to me, is neither here nor there.
RR wouldnt have got beat on if etc etc etc
Bikers wouldnt have got rode on if etc etc etc

It doesnt maker bc the way i rationalize things, if i were with my family, i WOULD NEVER be in that situation. Not ever.
IMO, in the video, tho not all of the incident, it seems that it was either a random act started by the bikers or the bikers responding to mr lien, to initiate things.
My past experiences in life cause me to believe that the bikers werent acting out of random hate towards the RR but were acting out of response to something he did to them.
Not bc someone was driven over but bc it seems odd that hundreds of bikers would stop on a beautiful dayto do stunts just to mess with a random range rover. Just seems as if they were provoked to do what they did.
Either way, both parties should go down for it.

Why are yall getting so embedded to this thing?
A lot you all seem upset about my stance as if you are lossing money bc of it.

Ps im convinced a lot of you dont read either.
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Did you watch the other video that showed dudes from this same group attacking someone in a Prius at a traffic light?  Of course it probably isn't the same individual involved but that doesn't make you think that maybe the bikers do intimidate and start confrontations with people OR just take it to the next level by attacking them?
 
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