If Peyton and Gabbert traded teams, how different would the result of their matchup be?

Lots of QB's have a string of one and dones, as the higher seed, at home, for multiple teams, and a losing record overall.

Stop singling out just Peyton.
 
Cedric Ceballos said:
You do know 4 of those wins came in 06 right? Since 07 mark Sanchez has more playoff wins then Peyton and he played in less seasons during that time frame. Obviously Peyton is light years better then him but since 07 Peyton is 2-5 in the playoffs with 3 of those loses home losses, a road loss to a 8-8 team and a loss on a neutral field in the Super Bowl
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not to mention the game losing pick 6 that he threw to end the game but hey lets not talk facts
 
The better/funner question would have been if you swapped Peyton and Brady early 2000's, how would they look then?

IE, Brady with Edge, Marvin, Wayne, etc
Peyton with crap, defense and Bill.

Would Peyton have the 3 SB's then, or would Tom have 9 Super Bowl's in Indy?


That's better than Peyton/Gabbert. Anything is better that doesn't involve Gabbert. :lol:
 
CP1708 said:
The better/funner question would have been if you swapped Peyton and Brady early 2000's, how would they look then?

IE, Brady with Edge, Marvin, Wayne, etc
Peyton with crap, defense and Bill.

Would Peyton have the 3 SB's then, or would Tom have 9 Super Bowl's in Indy?


That's better than Peyton/Gabbert. Anything is better that doesn't involve Gabbert.
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Well, my intent of this thread was for people to talk about how different the upcoming Jaguars Broncos GAME would be.  But NT being NT, 5 pages of responses and very few have actually addressed the question. 
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Shoulda got rid of the word Gabbert bruh.

The only thing I care about the Jags is how they do on their draft next year. They've pissed me off so many times, if they do it again next year, I may never speak their name again. :smh:

They should come out the draft with 5-6 STUDS next May. Anything less is criminal.
 
CP1708 said:
The better/funner question would have been if you swapped Peyton and Brady early 2000's, how would they look then?

IE, Brady with Edge, Marvin, Wayne, etc
Peyton with crap, defense and Bill.

Would Peyton have the 3 SB's then, or would Tom have 9 Super Bowl's in Indy?


That's better than Peyton/Gabbert. Anything is better that doesn't involve Gabbert.
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so tom brady in a dome

and peyton manning in 15-20 degree weather for 9 weeks....throwing to deion branch and troy brown

hmmmmm
 
Well that's the point. I would think that Peyton would adapt to the cold playing out there every day, every year.

Brady is from Cali. Favre was from the South. They grew into it, possible that Peyton would have too.

Hell, maybe bein in a dome causes Tom to be the one that struggles outside, who knows?
 
CP1708 said:
The better/funner question would have been if you swapped Peyton and Brady early 2000's, how would they look then?

IE, Brady with Edge, Marvin, Wayne, etc
Peyton with crap, defense and Bill.

Would Peyton have the 3 SB's then, or would Tom have 9 Super Bowl's in Indy?


That's better than Peyton/Gabbert. Anything is better that doesn't involve Gabbert.
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man just asked my pops ( a die hard manning stan ) about this scenario and this is what i got 
 
rrlegend said:
CP1708 said:
The better/funner question would have been if you swapped Peyton and Brady early 2000's, how would they look then?


IE, Brady with Edge, Marvin, Wayne, etc

Peyton with crap, defense and Bill.


Would Peyton have the 3 SB's then, or would Tom have 9 Super Bowl's in Indy?



That's better than Peyton/Gabbert. Anything is better that doesn't involve Gabbert. :lol:
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man just asked my pops ( a die hard manning stan ) about this scenario and this is what i got 

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:rofl:

+1
 
CP1708 said:
Well that's the point. I would think that Peyton would adapt to the cold playing out there every day, every year.

Brady is from Cali. Favre was from the South. They grew into it, possible that Peyton would have too.

Hell, maybe bein in a dome causes Tom to be the one that struggles outside, who knows?
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tom's got a cold heart 
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CASH MONEY 1999 said:
CP1708 said:
Well that's the point. I would think that Peyton would adapt to the cold playing out there every day, every year.


Brady is from Cali. Favre was from the South. They grew into it, possible that Peyton would have too.


Hell, maybe bein in a dome causes Tom to be the one that struggles outside, who knows?
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tom's got a cold heart :pimp:  
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tom got that ice water in his veins...peyton got that southern sweet tea pumping through his heart :pimp:
 
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Except against Balt in the playoffs or NY in the SB...(shrugs)
 
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DeadsetAce said:
he's beat em before in the playoffs
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but those ******* definitely have our number
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watching the giants 0-5 start has been amazing honestly

and didnt pollard knockout vereen with a helmet to helmet?

throw in no gronkowski and talib not playing the second half

and there was almost no chance we where winning that game
 
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CP1708 said:
The better/funner question would have been if you swapped Peyton and Brady early 2000's, how would they look then?

IE, Brady with Edge, Marvin, Wayne, etc
Peyton with crap, defense and Bill.

Would Peyton have the 3 SB's then, or would Tom have 9 Super Bowl's in Indy?


That's better than Peyton/Gabbert. Anything is better that doesn't involve Gabbert. :lol:
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Prolly have three rings as well... brady wasn't exactly the brady he is now at that time. Plus he is a cali kid, same with rodgers... If they can get used to playing in the snow i dont see why he wouldnt. Tom might not have one in indy....

I forgot that about spygate even .... manning knowing what your defense was going to do? :x:smh: Boy would that be bad, no matter who he is throwing to.
 
CASH MONEY 1999 said:
watching the giants 0-5 start has been amazing honestly

and didnt pollard knockout vereen with a helmet to helmet?
throw in no gronkowski and talib not playing the second half
and there was almost no chance we where winning that game
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Tom is light years better than eli... that is the difference. Even without a great o-line Tom would have that team dominating. -100 pt differental is disgusting.
 
You jacked this scenario from the beyond the bets pod :lol:
 
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Chester McFloppy said:
Wanna put a bet on that? I can name four people who will definitely use this excuse if it happens. :lol: :nerd:
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Ill go on record and say this. If the broncos win the Super Bowl, you won't hear a single excuse from me nor will I try to discredit manning in anyway nor make the loaded team excuse.

A loaded team only means so much. You still gotta go out and win the games.

My only gripe on Peyton has been his playoff track record and I can agree to disagree with whoever on here but its something that is worth pointing out. Yes Brady has lost home games to lower seeded teams but at the same time he's only been 1 and done twice. His teams have won playoff games in every season they made the playoffs aside from the 09 and 10 seasons.

At the end of the day ill put it like this. When careers are said and done, you look at the whole entire career. Lets just say the broncos win the Super Bowl this season and were to come back next season and win again and Peyton decides to retire, his past playoff track record will be forgotten and deservedly so.

You look at his entire career, acknowledge how great he's been throughout it. Acknoedge his playoff struggles but at the same time realize he bounced back from them and ended strong.

Peyton's career isn't over yet and seeing Favre put up great numbers at 40 in 09 makes me think Peyton could do the same if he wanted to.

His playoff struggles should be acknowledged for right now but at the same time he has a few more seasons to shut the critics up about the one blotch on his résumé.
 
assyrianplaya said:
should everyones team who doesn't win the title be considered a choker then?.... Brady threw a pick to end his season last year but not one word is said about it. New orleons was 7-9 without payton and not a word is said about brees. you used the words correctly, HIS TEAMS have wet the bed. has he had playoff failures? of course, who hasnt? How loaded were they? Could maybe a qb that elite lead his players and make them better? no not in your world i guess. peyton has had players but not a single running back worth a crap since edge and he has made many a bum a household name. Marino should never get a pass.... ever.

Brady has his reputation BECAUSE of spygate. Mangini stated they taped games as early as 2000. 7 years of taping teams defensive practice but yeah but lets sweep that under the rug. Also since then he has a beatdown in Baltimore in which he was absolutely trash. Coincedentially he has only three games since spygate with a better than 100 playoff rating since then...Manning has 2 in that same span in less games. Manning also has never had qb rating under 87 in that same time span... but yeah Manning is trash in the playoffs.

Manning wanting the rules to change has no bearing on Brees benefiting but sure lets toss that little snippet because you lacked an educational rebuttal. They lost 20-3 because new england was a better team no ands, if and buts. Tom brady threw for a whole 144 yards that game... he HAD to have been the reason why they won right?

You just gave every qb you spoke of a pass except for Manning, proving my point. Take your agenda elsewhere.
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Brady won't get the choke label because winning 3 Super Bowls and having consistent playoff success gives him a pass from some criticism whereas Manning at this point is subject to more scrutiny because he's had a track record for not doing as well in the playoffs.

It don't matter the sport, some fresh players will get a label of choking in the clutch and some will overcome it, lebron comes to mind in that sense. Some people will still have blind hate but he's shut his critics up.

Im reading some of your other stuff. You seem like a stats guy. Stats only tell part the story. On paper without looking at the box scores wilt chamberlain owned bill russell. But realistically Russell constantly got the better of wilt. Brady/Manning isn't nearly as one sided but stats only tell part the story in that argument.

Going into that 04 game, most people actually picked Indy to win. That was seen as "Peyton's getting over the hump" game. They killed denver the week before and New England kinda cooled off late that season losing to a terrible dolphins team on Monday night costing them the 1 seed. Read articles from back then and alot of people picked Indy to win that game.

Not only Peyton benifited from those rules changes obviously but his team is the one who made complaints to get the rules changed because of how physical that same team played them in 03, they get a rematch with rules to their favor in get blown out. That game stands out.

If it will make you happy. Brady, Brees, Rodgers etc have wet the bed in playoff games as well. None of them have nearly as many home losses and losses to teams they were expected to beat as Peyton.

Peyton 1 and done 8 times in 12 playoff appearances
Brady 1 and done twice in 10 playoff appearances.
Brees 1 and done twice in 5 appearances.
Rodgers 1 and done twice in 4 appearances.

I just have one question for you. Please answer it.

If the broncos go 1 and done again this season in the playoffs. Peyton has an average game but nothing like how he plays in the regular season. He doesn't play terrible but at the same time comes up short when needed to make the plays to get his team the win. If this happens are you going to make excuses for him? Or are you going to acknowledge that the playoff track record talk is warranted.

I've gone on record to say if he wins another title, it shuts the choker argument up for good. However if he doesn't get the job done again in January are you going to make excuses for him? Please respond.
 
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