2013-2014 NBA Thread - IND @ WAS and OKC @ LAC on ESPN

[franco23x]

Lebron was terrible on defense this year.

Yes he was, but LeBrons worst defensive year is better then 95% of the league (including melo).

 

[Chester McFloppy]

You guys are really clueless Melo had a better year defensively than Lebron this year and has been a beast since he's been moved to the 4.

 

[steebie j]

McHale has to go.

The offense cannot be just a Harden iso until 5 sec left on the shot clock.

I remember going to a rockets game when they faced the suns. I was with a chick that doesn't follow basketball. She told me how come the purple team know what they're doing but the rockets dont? I was like damn even people that don't watch bball know what the deal is.

I agree with someone on here that said whenever harden takes a shot, it looks like he's more so trying to draw the foul. It's so blatant at times. Smh.

we are still capable of winning the series tho...

 

[bilboshmangins]

You guys are really clueless

Melo had a better year defensively than Lebron this year and has been a beast since he's been moved to the 4.

people sleep on jason kidds point guard play last year, steve novak corner threes.

Knicks messed up by letting david lee and mozgov go. 

 

[100027]

 
people sleep on jason kidds point guard play last year, steve novak corner threes.

Knicks messed up by letting david lee and mozgov go. 

You know when the Knicks messed up....  We all know.

Just everyone hasn't started saying it yet.

 

[franco23x]

Houston's style of Basketball is elementary.
Harden can ball, but he's a Pippen, Not a Jordan.

No he's not a Pippen, don't disrespect him Skip Bayless.

 

[nick.]

Stats to prove this?

The defensive part.

He's been a beast scoring because 4s can't guard him. *gasp* because he's a 3.

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Melo is white, LBJ is grey.

 

[Air Pope]

Houston's style of Basketball is elementary.
Harden can ball, but he's a Pippen, Not a Jordan.

Don't say that. Not only was Pippen very good offensively, he was a great defender as well. Harden is "a Harden" he's surely no Pippen.

 

[bilboshmangins]

harden is a poor mans gilbert arenas.

 

[Bert.]

 

Julius F. Wrek

this is so awesome

 

[Air Pope]

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Melo is white, LBJ is grey.

They weren't ready.

 

[Bert.]

harden is a poor mans gilbert arenas.

best comparison

in b4 everyone says hes better than arenas

at least Arenas didnt rely on drawing stupid fouls to get his points. he could shoot from anywhere on the floor with ease and take it to the hoop and finish with contact and no fouls to bail him out

 

[johnson1]

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Melo is white, LBJ is grey.

hmm...dang?

 

[herbshuttles15]

I think he's a poor mans Manu with more shot attempts

 

[al3xis]

Too bad stats can't display what a horrific help/team defender Carmelo is in comparison.

 

[100027]

Melo is white, LBJ is grey.

LBJ's defense is overrated.  Especially this season.

Also, this is a nice attempt but I'm not sure it's a great quantifier of defense in a vacuum.

Too bad stats can't display what a horrific help/team defender Carmelo is in comparison.

 

[herbshuttles15]

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Melo is white, LBJ is grey.

LBJ's defense is overrated.  Especially this season.

Also, this is a nice attempt but I'm not sure it's a great quantifier of defense in a vacuum.

I wouldn't call him an overrated defender, he had a bad year on defense, never been a great on ball defender imo, probably very good but not great.

 

[100027]

100 mill on stats bad knee or gutting the team?
Don't disrespect Pippen.

Don't you dare.

Gutting the team for a B-level star.


Pippen has to be the most disrespected all time great. People were comparing Igoudala to him last summer.

 

[bilboshmangins]

b-level star? blasphemy.

y'all do remember that melo was consistently leading the nuggets to 50+ wins in the west?

 

[ballinsam23]

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Melo is white, LBJ is grey.

Nice, a whole .9 higher.

I applaud you for posting the stats.

It's not about the #s. Its about this whole "Melo doesnt play or try to play defense" BS. We're not saying he's artest in his prime.

 

[Air Pope]

Pippen as in he needs to be the 2 option on this team or any team. Never the 1 option. Is it still early where you guys are at? or was I just giving you guys too much credit thinking you'd understand that analogy.

Bad analogy. Pippen wasn't your avg. 2 option.

 

[Air Pope]

b-level star? blasphemy.

y'all do remember that melo was consistently leading the nuggets to 50+ wins in the west?

Hate makes ppl forgetful sometimes.

 

[100027]

b-level star? blasphemy.

y'all do remember that melo was consistently leading the nuggets to 50+ wins in the west?

I remember him getting absolutely shamed out of the first round 4/5 years.

Which is what a B-level star does.

 

[ballinsam23]

Man I hate Harden's step back 3pt chucking, non defense playing, euro stepping to FTs ***. People stay giving him credit too

He has such a likable personality and can easily cut down on the chucking and average 8+ assists he he wants to.

 

[bhzmafia14]

If Harden would've stayed at OKC, he would not be getting crucified. Westbrook would've always taken the blame for their failures and he and Durant would get away with anything.