2013-2014 NBA Thread - IND @ WAS and OKC @ LAC on ESPN

[lawdog1]

Bennett might be having the worst 1st season of any 1st overall pick, but it's way too early to call him WOAT. He won't have to become much more than a serviceable player for 6-7 seasons to be regarded as at least as good as Michael Olowokandi and Kwame Brown.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

Lillard is always clutch as hell, how many gamewinners is that now?
This Raptors team could definitely make the second round imo. it'd be worth it

Yeah I'd rather have a top 5 pick.

 

[herbshuttles15]

Lillard is always clutch as hell, how many gamewinners is that now?
This Raptors team could definitely make the second round imo. it'd be worth it

Yeah I'd rather have a top 5 pick.

Definitely

 

[lawdog1]

Yeah I'd rather have a top 5 pick.

I would too if I was a Raps fan.

Making the playoffs in the East and losing in the 1st or even second round just means your team is a higher level of mediocre.

 

[sea manup]

I think the worse the team and the lower the expectations and existing talent the better for a top pick.

LeBron, Durant, Carmelo, Wade, all had that room to grow.

depends on the situation, for guys like lebron, kd, wade, melo and maybe jabari/wiggins they are wing players that you can just give them the ball at half court and they will make things happen. for a guy like embiid who is a post player there needs to be a good offensive system with guys who know how to feed the post, a good pick and roll PG and good shooters so the lane is not too clogged.

there are a few guys who are truly bad players but most busts are busts because they get drafted by the wrong team. of course a guy like KD or lebron is going to be great wherever he gets drafted but for a potential top 25 type player its not like that. switch kyree with lillard and kyree would be the deserving allstar and lillard would be considered overrated right now. put darko on a team that plays him his rookie year and he doesnt lose confidence and maybe becomes a decent nba player. put greek freak on a better team without two other guys who have the same body type and play the same position and he has more opportunities to be great. a major factor to why duncan is the greatest PF of all time is because he was drafted by a smart organization, same with kobe. there are so many players every year that could be great players but are drafted by the wrong teams, and theres nothing we can do about it because 60% of nba teams are trash teams owned by trash owners who hire trash GMs and trash coaches.

 

[tomdiginson]

I think the worse the team and the lower the expectations and existing talent the better for a top pick.

LeBron, Durant, Carmelo, Wade, all had that room to grow.

I agree 100%. I think when rookies are tossed into a situation where every area is filled. They basically stick to the skills that they already have and end becoming a 1 dimensional player. When they are on a team that's lacking in various departments, it forces said player to become more versatile and in order to become better they also have to discover/explore different parts of their game.

 

[lilzunchi]

I want to see who phx and what phx trades for. Id like to see us trade for Jeff green with omekas contract and maybe a pick. If Chicago was losing a shot at Noah would be nice too. I think our weak link is pj tucker although he's a gritty glue guy, we need someone on the frontline who can create their own offense. I heard suns going after thaddeus young, not to familiar with his game much

The pains of going 10-11 deep and EVERYONE is playing well

 

[pmatic]

Environment has as much to do with player development as skills and opportunity to me.

Some players are better off not being given X amount of minutes right away. While others can play those minutes right away.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

Jacob Rosen ‏@WFNYJacob
"Dion, why didn't you work out for any teams?" "I dunno. .. My agent and them thought it was best." via @draftexpress

Jonathan Givony ‏@DraftExpress
.@WFNYJacob not only did he not work out, also no physical, no NBA Combine, no interview. Basically a middle finger. Which got him picked #4

I forgot about this.

How Dion Waiters got picked number 4 is going to make a great oral history one day.

 

[sea manup]

bennett could have been drafted at #1 by any other team in the league and he wouldnt be as bad as he is now. the mess that is the cavs has a major reason to why he is doing THIS bad

 

[americangenius]

bennett could have been drafted at #1 by any other team in the league and he wouldnt be as bad as he is now. the mess that is the cavs has a major reason to why he is doing THIS bad

Damn, everywhere I turn Cavs are considered a horror story. We can't deny they've had great potential talent over the years but it always amounts to nothing.

 

[sole searchin]

bennett could have been drafted at #1 by any other team in the league and he wouldnt be as bad as he is now. the mess that is the cavs has a major reason to why he is doing THIS bad

Doesn't change the fact that he's terrible, should have never been the #1 pick. Cavs reached, everyone thought it then, and everyone knows it now. Draft class was terrible ATM.

 

[urbetterthenme]

Doesn't change the fact that he's terrible, should have never been the #1 pick. Cavs reached, everyone thought it then, and everyone knows it now. Draft class was terrible ATM.

what skill did they see that made them think he was a #1?

PLus they already had Tristian, so where the hell were you gonna put him?

 

[sea manup]

 

bennett could have been drafted at #1 by any other team in the league and he wouldnt be as bad as he is now. the mess that is the cavs has a major reason to why he is doing THIS bad

Doesn't change the fact that he's terrible, should have never been the #1 pick. Cavs reached, everyone thought it then, and everyone knows it now. Draft class was terrible ATM.

if he goes to a team that knows how to develop him he could be a top 5 player in the draft, not saying much but still better than what he is now.

sadly he was born too late and now he's forced to stay with the worst team in sports because trash owners were too stupid to keep their star players and made a new CBA to fix it despite the fact that they still wont be able to build a half decent team

 

[pmatic]

The Suns were the team most had speculated has promised Waiters in the draft, but if I recall correctly I read after the draft the Warriors were very high on Waiters and were going to draft him had he been available. I'm not sure if they outright promised him though.

 

[mister friendly]

I think the worse the team and the lower the expectations and existing talent the better for a top pick.


LeBron, Durant, Carmelo, Wade, all had that room to grow.

depends on the situation, for guys like lebron, kd, wade, melo and maybe jabari/wiggins they are wing players that you can just give them the ball at half court and they will make things happen. for a guy like embiid who is a post player there needs to be a good offensive system with guys who know how to feed the post, a good pick and roll PG and good shooters so the lane is not too clogged.

there are a few guys who are truly bad players but most busts are busts because they get drafted by the wrong team. of course a guy like KD or lebron is going to be great wherever he gets drafted but for a potential top 25 type player its not like that. switch kyree with lillard and kyree would be the deserving allstar and lillard would be considered overrated right now. put darko on a team that plays him his rookie year and he doesnt lose confidence and maybe becomes a decent nba player. put greek freak on a better team without two other guys who have the same body type and play the same position and he has more opportunities to be great. a major factor to why duncan is the greatest PF of all time is because he was drafted by a smart organization, same with kobe. there are so many players every year that could be great players but are drafted by the wrong teams, and theres nothing we can do about it because 60% of nba teams are trash teams owned by trash owners who hire trash GMs and trash coaches.

Very true

 

[addict4sneakers]

I think Bennett would have struggled regardless. I understand the cavs are in shambles but he was injured all summer and is a 3.5

What hybrid forward has ever made an immediate impact?

 

[hypebeast5]

Doesn't change the fact that he's terrible, should have never been the #1 pick. Cavs reached, everyone thought it then, and everyone knows it now. Draft class was terrible ATM.

what skill did they see that made them think he was a #1?


PLus they already had Tristian, so where the hell were you gonna put him?

Him being a pick and pop 4 basicaly guranteed him a top 5 pick

That skillset is loved by point guards

 

[black migo]

I think Bennett would have struggled regardless. I understand the cavs are in shambles but he was injured all summer and is a 3.5

What hybrid forward has ever made an immediate impact?

Lamar odom

 

[sea manup]

 

 

Doesn't change the fact that he's terrible, should have never been the #1 pick. Cavs reached, everyone thought it then, and everyone knows it now. Draft class was terrible ATM.

what skill did they see that made them think he was a #1?


PLus they already had Tristian, so where the hell were you gonna put him?

Him being a pick and pop 4 basicaly guranteed him a top 5 pick

That skillset is loved by point guards

if only the cavs had a point guard 

 

[osh kosh bosh]

I think Bennett would have struggled regardless. I understand the cavs are in shambles but he was injured all summer and is a 3.5

What hybrid forward has ever made an immediate impact?

he's not a 3.5, he's a four, he's never played a minute a 3 past the age of 15. he's a stretch four.

anybody who thought he was a 3.5 or 3 should fire there scouting department.

 

[100027]

Well look at Oladipo, not putting up great #s and barely shooting 40% but getting tons of minutes to make mistakes and learn anyway.

I think Harrison Barnes development has been hurt because he is on a stacked team in GS.

 

[sea manup]

the key to oladipo's future is that hopefully orlando is an environment where they work on his mistakes and correct him. hes a good player so he will be stuck there for as long as the magic want to keep him so hopefully they are able to put a team together that is going places before victor starts to get a loser mentality 

 

[black migo]

Vic, tobias & vucevic, orlando already got a nucleus for the future


Its crazy only 2 players drafted top 10 are averaging double digits

 

[reggiekiller]

 
I like Kendrick (no lamar)...

He brought it to Shaq.....just like Bynum did...

dudes wanna see Kendrick play like Dirk or like Bosh..Kevin Love or something

stop it...that wont happen

when dudes is muscling your team in the paint and you getting bodied on the boards.....with the likes of Roy Hibbert David West and Noah, TAJ Carlos Boozer

who you gonna call? the red head light skinted...the ginger? Quake? is that what they call him now...

nah...you call Mr. Perkins

but he averages 4 rebounds per game