2013-2014 NBA Thread - IND @ WAS and OKC @ LAC on ESPN

[shoeking2101]

shaq was the better player that year but iverson did his thing and was a major reason for the 6ers making the finals and winning game one

Quite simply, if you average 31 a game and lead your team to the best record in the conference, there is no way that can be "The most fraudulent MVP in league history." By any measure, Allen was deserving of the MVP that year. Just because Shaq was deserving of it, doesn't mean that A.I. wasn't.

 

[kal-el-8]

kobe's prime lasted longer than wades entire career 

This has to be one of the best statements ever. And couldn't be more on point.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

But somehow Iverson was only one to get to the NBA Finals with a garbage team though

teams wasn't garbage elite defenders. horrible eastern conference.

 

[shoeking2101]

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[osh kosh bosh]

Quite simply, if you average 31 a game and lead your team to the best record in the conference, there is no way that can be "The most fraudulent MVP in league history." By any measure, Allen was deserving of the MVP that year. Just because Shaq was deserving of it, doesn't mean that A.I. wasn't.

easy by shooting 39% from the feild while the other guy had the best season by a center since wilt chamberlain.

 

[mister friendly]

McCartney has never said his Wings work is better than his Beatles work though

 

[mister friendly]

You act like shooting percentage is a be all stat.

Not all shots are created equal

 

[shoeking2101]

easy by shooting 39% from the feild while the other guy had the best season by a center since wilt chamberlain.

Don't think you get it. No matter how you slice it, if you average 31 a game on the best team in the conference, that is 100% worthy of MVP. Every single time

 

[osh kosh bosh]

yeah and ai took a lot of ****** ones.


Shaq had the BEST SEASON since wilt,


why am i arguing this the game is on later.

 

[shoeking2101]

Do you know how hard it is to average 31 a game???? Even with horrible shooting percentages and getting those fga's up, to get to over 31 PPG is incredibly hard. To do that, and get your team the best record in the conference, is without a doubt MVP worthy.

 

[black migo]

easy by shooting 39% from the feild while the other guy had the best season by a center since wilt chamberlain.

Since shaq had another 25+ ppg scorer on his team its easier to say ai was "more valuable" to his team which the mvp award is for

 

[osh kosh bosh]

Don't think you get it. No matter how you slice it, if you average 31 a game on the best team in the conference, that is 100% worthy of MVP. Every single time

yeah i don't think you get it, they got to the finals because of defense and a historically weak east.

you can't just ignore context becuase it doesn't fit your narrative.

 

[beh235]

Do you know how hard it is to average 31 a game???? Even with horrible shooting percentages and getting those fga's up, to get to over 31 PPG is incredibly hard. To do that, and get your team the best record in the conference, is without a doubt MVP worthy.

It's not even easy to average 10PPG in the NBA

 

[shoeking2101]

SIdenote: A.I.'s best season individually was 05-06, not 2000-2001

33, 3, & 7 on 45% from the field. :x

 

[osh kosh bosh]

Since shaq had another 25+ ppg scorer on his team its easier to say ai was "more valuable" to his team which the mvp award is for

well luckily im not a stupid mvp voter.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

SIdenote: A.I.'s best season individually was 05-06, not 2000-2001

33, 3, & 7 on 45% from the field.

yeah it was, but noooooo 01 he was the mvp.

huge AI fan as a kid, first jersey I ever owned, but the mvp was ridiculous shaq should have been unanimous let alon loosing to ai.

 

[sea manup]

 

Do you know how hard it is to average 31 a game???? Even with horrible shooting percentages and getting those fga's up, to get to over 31 PPG is incredibly hard. To do that, and get your team the best record in the conference, is without a doubt MVP worthy.

It's not even easy to average 10PPG in the NBA

most NTers could do it 

 

[shoeking2101]

yeah i don't think you get it, they got to the finals because of defense and a historically weak east.

you can't just ignore context becuase it doesn't fit your narrative.

I'm not ignoring it, you're just diminishing Allen's accomplishments that year because of his shooting percentages. I wasn't even addressing why they got to the finals. The MVP is a regular season award. You said he didn't deserve it. That's flat out false. As I stated, 31 a game on the best team in the conference is MVP worthy. Every single time. Historically weak eastern conference or not.

 

[beh235]

 

 

Do you know how hard it is to average 31 a game???? Even with horrible shooting percentages and getting those fga's up, to get to over 31 PPG is incredibly hard. To do that, and get your team the best record in the conference, is without a doubt MVP worthy.

It's not even easy to average 10PPG in the NBA

most NTers could do it 

on 2K, sure 

 

[MIKE LOWERY]

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He averaged 24/8/6 on 41% in those finals tho.

 

[shoeking2101]

yeah it was, but noooooo 01 he was the mvp.

huge AI fan as a kid, first jersey I ever owned, but the mvp was ridiculous shaq should have been unanimous let alon loosing to ai.

See that's just wrong again I ask you how can someone average 31 a game with an identical record as shaq, NOT BE WORTHY OF THE MVP

historically weak EC or not, when you do that you are more than worthy of the MVP. Should shaq have gotten it? Maybe. Over A.I.? That's for sure debatable. His team came four wins short of 60. Like I said, Shaq was deserving, but that doesn't mean A.I. wasn't.

 

[sea manup]

 
He averaged 24/8/6 on 41% in those finals tho.

you say that like those are bad numbers for a second option 

 

[shoeking2101]

you say that like those are bad numbers for a second option 

Was legit in the middle of typing "Don't see what your point is. Those are pretty good numbers from your 2nd option"

 

[MIKE LOWERY]

 

[mister friendly]

yeah i don't think you get it, they got to the finals because of defense and a historically weak east.

you can't just ignore context becuase it doesn't fit your narrative.

I'm not ignoring it, you're just diminishing Allen's accomplishments that year because of his shooting percentages. I wasn't even addressing why they got to the finals. The MVP is a regular season award. You said he didn't deserve it. That's flat out false. As I stated, 31 a game on the best team in the conference is MVP worthy. Every single time. Historically weak eastern conference or not.

Yep and AI led the NBA in steals and minutes

I don't remember his conference being historically bad that year either, every playoff team had a winning record in 2001