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Because he wasn't on the Heat last year. He had a brief stint with the Mavs and that was it.
 
Bill Simmons: Naive to Think NBA players are not on PEDS :lol: NO CHILL


During a podcast on Monday, ESPN NBA analyst Bill Simmons suggested that the lessons from baseball's performance enhancing drug problems of the past two decades need to be studied by those involved in basketball.

"The retroactive thing is really funny to me," said Simmons. "It does seem like there is this weird residual guilt, especially with the writers: 'We didn't know. I should have known. How did we not know?'

"Why aren't we asking that now with the other sports? What about basketball? Go on YouTube and watch a basketball game from 1977 and see what the guys look like. You really think there are no PED guys in the NBA right now? You've got to be kidding me.

"It's just funny to me. If we end up repeating this whole cycle with the NBA. Everybody is going to be like, 'How did we not know?' It's the same thing we were going through with baseball in the late nineties."

Simmons Naive To Think NBA Has No Players On PEDs - RealGM Wiretap
 
I'd like to thank the Cavs organization personally for taking Bennett, and them alone taking the hit of how much of a failure he has been till this point

I know Porter hasnt been much better but still i never seen what scouts saw in Bennett and i personally watched some of his best games in college

What puzzles me is why they havent sent him to the D-League do they not want to admit they failed with their number one overall selection?
 
I'd like to thank the Cavs organization personally for taking Bennett, and them alone taking the hit of how much of a failure he has been till this point

I know Porter hasnt been much better but still i never seen what scouts saw in Bennett and i personally watched some of his best games in college

What puzzles me is why they havent sent him to the D-League do they not want to admit they failed with their number one overall selection?
What HAS happened with Porter this year?
 
A majority of the league believes Blake Griffin and DeAndre Jordan don’t fit together, and Jordan’s improvement has made Griffin the more obvious trade candidate, according to Ric Bucher of Bleacher Report. The consensus is that the Clippers need a big man who can shoot, and even Chris Paul wishes Griffin were more like former teammate David West, sources tell Bucher. A general manager who possesses the sort of power forward who might mesh better with Jordan said to Bucher that the Clippers haven’t contacted his team and added that he hasn’t heard that the Clippers are shopping Griffin at all. The GM thinks owner Donald Sterling would never agree to such a deal, though Bucher hears from a Clippers source confident that Doc Rivers will talk him into it before the trade deadline.
 
I'd like to thank the Cavs organization personally for taking Bennett, and them alone taking the hit of how much of a failure he has been till this point


I know Porter hasnt been much better but still i never seen what scouts saw in Bennett and i personally watched some of his best games in college


What puzzles me is why they havent sent him to the D-League do they not want to admit they failed with their number one overall selection?
What HAS happened with Porter this year?

Injured plus Trevor Ariza is having a career year
 
A majority of the league believes Blake Griffin and DeAndre Jordan don’t fit together, and Jordan’s improvement has made Griffin the more obvious trade candidate, according to Ric Bucher of Bleacher Report. The consensus is that the Clippers need a big man who can shoot, and even Chris Paul wishes Griffin were more like former teammate David West, sources tell Bucher. A general manager who possesses the sort of power forward who might mesh better with Jordan said to Bucher that the Clippers haven’t contacted his team and added that he hasn’t heard that the Clippers are shopping Griffin at all. The GM thinks owner Donald Sterling would never agree to such a deal, though Bucher hears from a Clippers source confident that Doc Rivers will talk him into it before the trade deadline.

zbo :rofl:
 
miami heat visit president barack obama at the white house photos - january 14, 2014
Chris bosh being neglected 
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the hell is juwon howard doing up and center in the pic :lol:

agreed bennet was taking 10 spots too early and no one expected him to play like a #1. and mike brown :smh: how is that guy still an nba head coach!!
 
I'd like to thank the Cavs organization personally for taking Bennett, and them alone taking the hit of how much of a failure he has been till this point


I know Porter hasnt been much better but still i never seen what scouts saw in Bennett and i personally watched some of his best games in college


What puzzles me is why they havent sent him to the D-League do they not want to admit they failed with their number one overall selection?
What HAS happened with Porter this year?

Injured plus Trevor Ariza is having a career year

But Porter has had some productive flashes
 
 
A majority of the league believes Blake Griffin and DeAndre Jordan don’t fit together, and Jordan’s improvement has made Griffin the more obvious trade candidate, according to Ric Bucher of Bleacher Report. The consensus is that the Clippers need a big man who can shoot, and even Chris Paul wishes Griffin were more like former teammate David West, sources tell Bucher. A general manager who possesses the sort of power forward who might mesh better with Jordan said to Bucher that the Clippers haven’t contacted his team and added that he hasn’t heard that the Clippers are shopping Griffin at all. The GM thinks owner Donald Sterling would never agree to such a deal, though Bucher hears from a Clippers source confident that Doc Rivers will talk him into it before the trade deadline.


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A majority of the league believes Blake Griffin and DeAndre Jordan don’t fit together, and Jordan’s improvement has made Griffin the more obvious trade candidate, according to Ric Bucher of Bleacher Report. The consensus is that the Clippers need a big man who can shoot, and even Chris Paul wishes Griffin were more like former teammate David West, sources tell Bucher. A general manager who possesses the sort of power forward who might mesh better with Jordan said to Bucher that the Clippers haven’t contacted his team and added that he hasn’t heard that the Clippers are shopping Griffin at all. The GM thinks owner Donald Sterling would never agree to such a deal, though Bucher hears from a Clippers source confident that Doc Rivers will talk him into it before the trade deadline.
That's BS, Griffin has been much improved as a jumpshooter this year. Why would they trade him when he's only 24 and still improving every year?



Also when did Ric Bucher start writing for Bleacher Report?? When he was with ESPN he never would have attached his name to something like this, would he?
 
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Bill Simmons: Naive to Think NBA players are not on PEDS
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"Why aren't we asking that now with the other sports? What about basketball? Go on YouTube and watch a basketball game from 1977 and see what the guys look like. You really think there are no PED guys in the NBA right now? You've got to be kidding me.

 
This is such a flawed argument. There is a greater emphasis on athleticism in the NBA thanks to the standards set by the 90s guys. From the NBA all the way down to pee wee basketball there was a change in the dynamic. That's why you see less skilled players and more athletes in the league. In the 70s the emphasis was on length and skill. All the players were lanky af. They shot jump hooks and dribbled with the ball away from their bodies. Now you have forwards with tight PG handles and your PG can dunk like a forward. It's a different era, not because of drugs but because the game has changed. Now that's not to say that there aren't some guys who may be on something. But you can't make a broad stroke generalization like that without considering all the factors for the changes.
 
Riiiigggghhhtttt. A team that's 4th in the stacked West, despite never being at full strength the whole year, is thinking about trading one it's stars, a fan favorite, who is having the best year of his career. Makes a ton of sense.
 
That's BS, Griffin has been much improved as a jumpshooter this year. Why would they trade him when he's only 24 and still improving every year?



Also when did Ric Bucher start writing for Bleacher Report?? When he was with ESPN he never would have attached his name to something like this, would he?
Ric Bucher was always putting out ridiculous rumors.

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  keeping DeAndre and trading Blake because they don't fit together.
 
 
This is such a flawed argument. There is a greater emphasis on athleticism in the NBA thanks to the standards set by the 90s guys. From the NBA all the way down to pee wee basketball there was a change in the dynamic. That's why you see less skilled players and more athletes in the league. In the 70s the emphasis was on length and skill. All the players were lanky af. They shot jump hooks and dribbled with the ball away from their bodies. Now you have forwards with tight PG handles and your PG can dunk like a forward. It's a different era, not because of drugs but because the game has changed. Now that's not to say that there aren't some guys who may be on something. But you can't make a broad stroke generalization like that without considering all the factors for the changes.
I think Simmons is speaking from experience after the baseball debacle.  Every sportswriter writing off excuses like "changes in workouts and nutrition" when the reality was right there in front of their faces.  And he's absolutely right about this.  10 years from now all these guys will be saying "How could we have known?!"

LeBron, Dwight...  I would not be shocked for a minute.
 
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