2013-2014 NBA Thread - IND @ WAS and OKC @ LAC on ESPN

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Iverson got carried by the 6ers defense to the finals (it was a good defensive team but to say iverson was carried is laughable). Dwades in the same tier as kobe. Tmacs career is not comparable to melo. Chris paul is the same tier of generational players as kd and lebron.

Its obvious that okb is one of those basketball elitists who think theres only one right way to play basketball and that all "chuckers" are the devil. It shows in his highly biased basketball opinions and most of the time he is not worth replying to

not agreeing with you makes me an elitist huh?

okay bud. :lol:
 
forget about Wade

Who's the #1 SG of all time :nerd:

just kidding!

Brandon Roy. Because he was an efficient passer for his 6'6 frame and he was an efficient scorer. He drove to the basket very well. If he hadn't have been injured, he would have had a higher volume of numbers in every category. So that puts him at number 1, basically he did everything better than everyone else before him and since after him.
 
Iverson got carried by the 6ers defense to the finals (it was a good defensive team but to say iverson was carried is laughable). Dwades in the same tier as kobe. Tmacs career is not comparable to melo. Chris paul is the same tier of generational players as kd and lebron.

Its obvious that okb is one of those basketball elitists who think theres only one right way to play basketball and that all "chuckers" are the devil. It shows in his highly biased basketball opinions and most of the time he is not worth replying to

not agreeing with you makes me an elitist huh?

okay bud. :lol:
you have shown an inability to think in rational way when talking about any player that has been labled a "chucker" because if this I find most of your opinions on the subject to be, for the lack of a better word, trash
 
 
forget about Wade

Who's the #1 SG of all time 
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you are

just kidding, its obviously bill simmons
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Wade has played 75 games in a season a total of 5 times.

He barely registers 30% from 3, and he doesn't even take that many to begin with.

His career high free throw shooting is 80%, done one single time. And that's from a guy KNOWN for getting to the line?????
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Been All NBA twice, no MVP, 1 Finals MVP. and was never, in any year, considered better than Kobe. But when their career's are finished, they are neck and neck?????

And yet, all the knocks on Kobe's career for riding Shaq, we just get to sit back and let Wade collect fame while he too got their with Shaq, and then with LeBron + Bosh?


You my boy Osh, but you a little off on this one man. His 2-3 year window ain't all that great. He had one crazy elite series, that was awfully sketchy, to put it mildly.
All fact, no filler. Wade been overrated.
 
Wade has played 75 games in a season a total of 5 times.

He barely registers 30% from 3, and he doesn't even take that many to begin with.

His career high free throw shooting is 80%, done one single time. And that's from a guy KNOWN for getting to the line?????
ohwell.gif


Been All NBA twice, no MVP, 1 Finals MVP. and was never, in any year, considered better than Kobe. But when their career's are finished, they are neck and neck?????

And yet, all the knocks on Kobe's career for riding Shaq, we just get to sit back and let Wade collect fame while he too got their with Shaq, and then with LeBron + Bosh?


You my boy Osh, but you a little off on this one man. His 2-3 year window ain't all that great. He had one crazy elite series, that was awfully sketchy, to put it mildly.
I'll take 2014 wade over 2014 Kobe anyday. Heck Chris Douglas Roberts is better than Kobe in 2014
 
 
forget about Wade

Who's the #1 SG of all time 
nerd.gif


just kidding!
Brandon Roy. Because he was an efficient passer for his 6'6 frame and he was an efficient scorer. He drove to the basket very well. If he hadn't have been injured, he would have had a higher volume of numbers in every category. So that puts him at number 1, basically he did everything better than everyone else before him and since after him.
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how is longevity not relevant? If we draft dwade instead of kobe maybe we still win 3 with shaq, but by the time 08 comes around wades body is done and we only get 3 championships out of the "wade era" longevity plays huge role in basketball and life in general to say its not important shows how narrow minded you are.

when I think of players I think of how good they were when they were at their best, the argument of best "career" and best player is different to me.

im interested in the nuts and bolts basketball of how 1 player influences the other 9 on the court, not the sports writer create a narrative and ascribe virtues to **** that I think is like 60% luck.


I'm just into the basketball part of it, not myth making
so lets talk about how the 1 guy influences the 9 other guys on the court. That sounds lot like we're talking about team success.

Tmacs such a great player for constantly elevating his 9 other teammates to yearly first round apperences. But obviously when melo does the same thing every year hes one dimensional player

Oh look at chris paul he has had no playoff success but hes a generational talent because he makes his teammates better! Theres no way blake griffin will keep his production without the great chris paul! Oh wait....

We can do this all day, your opinions on this subject are trash
 
you have shown an inability to think in rational way when talking about any player that has been labled a "chucker" because if this I find most of your opinions on the subject to be, for the lack of a better word, trash

I have opinions, and then these magical little things called facts that I use. They really are amazing, try it sometime.



If everyone accepted common knowledge like sheep, then Nike talk would be a decidedly more boring place to go to.
 
you have shown an inability to think in rational way when talking about any player that has been labled a "chucker" because if this I find most of your opinions on the subject to be, for the lack of a better word, trash

I have opinions, and then these magical little things called facts that I use. They really are amazing, try it sometime.



If everyone accepted common knowledge like sheep, then Nike talk would be a decidedly more boring place to go to.
please educate me on all these "facts" im all ears.

You have typed two pages of trash and now you're trying to pass your struggle arguments off as facts
 
so lets talk about how the 1 guy influences the 9 other guys on the court. That sounds lot like we're talking about team success.

Tmacs such a great player for constantly elevating his 9 other teammates to yearly first round apperences. But obviously when melo does the same thing every year hes one dimensional player

Oh look at chris paul he has had no playoff success but hes a generational talent because he makes his teammates better! Theres no way blake griffin will keep his production without the great chris paul! Oh wait....

We can do this all day, your opinions on this subject are trash
so lets talk about how the 1 guy influences the 9 other guys on the court. That sounds lot like we're talking about team success.

Tmacs such a great player for constantly elevating his 9 other teammates to yearly first round apperences. But obviously when melo does the same thing every year hes one dimensional player

Oh look at chris paul he has had no playoff success but hes a generational talent because he makes his teammates better! Theres no way blake griffin will keep his production without the great chris paul! Oh wait....

We can do this all day, your opinions on this subject are trash


those are narratives. look up the definition of the word, since you can't seem to grasp it.

I am not interested in your perception of how one narrative is similar to another, only how the player played on the court taking into account, his teammates and the opposition. If you want argue about careers, or legacy, argue with somebody else.


The reality is you will struggle to come up with any objective measures that validates this, T-Mac = Carmelo Paul = Carmelo, AI = Shq stuff that you keep pedaling, this is the reality. If you want to argue about what goes on on the court sure, but all this other stuff I can't help you with.
 
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