2013-2014 NBA Thread - IND @ WAS and OKC @ LAC on ESPN

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So the moral of today is you can't win a championship with Dwight as your best player (even though he's not) or you can't win with Dwight on your team period?

moral of the story is dwight thinks hes a superstar and capable of being the man on a team but in reality you have to be able to dominate offensively atleast once in a while to be said superstar
 
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If he stayed healthy Oden had the potential to be an elite center and top player in the league.

I was a huge fan.
Still am a huge fan, I just want to see him happy and enjoying the game of basketball.
i remember drafting oden in the late rounds for like 3 years straight
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for a guy who has no touch around the rim he always seems to keep shooting 60% from the field or more

y'all are rewriting history, don't get it twisted greg Oden was a once in a generation prospect, high school legend, dominant college season, when he actually played on an nba court, he was really really good at a very young age.

Averages of 9.4 pts, 7.3 boards and 1.4 blocks over roughly 80 games made him really, really good? Seems pretty average when you compare it to other centers that were picked in the top 5 of the draft. Shaq averaged 23.4 and 13.9 as a rookie; Zo averaged 21 and 10.3. Dwight was at 12 and 10 coming right out of high school.

I'm not saying Oden wouldn't have been good. But I think if he was going to be a dominant force in the league, he would have done more to show it in his first couple years.
 
I wasn't a believer in Oden. Not at least in the franchise center they were telling me he'd be. His touch around the basket was poor and his footwork wasn't great.

Durant from the jump >>>>>>


Yeah. I think its a reach to say Oden could have been on the same level as Durant, if he stayed healthy. KD is a transcendent talent -- a 6'11" dude who handles and shoots the ball like a guard. Oden could have been a very solid center, but not a next level superstar like that.

Everyone has 20/20 hindsight

Oden was promising before all those injuries. The man played an entire season with his off hand for God's sake!
 
@Antidope I was actually excited to see them go back to their old ways with the jerseys, when I was a kid in the 90's - the Hornets colors and logo was freaking raw to me.

They were loud and popped at you..

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Still might be one of the best jerseys ever...

those arent the og hornets jerseys maybe its my computer lol but those are fire nonetheless

and yea why not just go back to the old style instead of trying to make jerseys look like a wnba jersey?

edit: yea its my computer color lol
 
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for a guy who has no touch around the rim he always seems to keep shooting 60% from the field or more

y'all are rewriting history, don't get it twisted greg Oden was a once in a generation prospect, high school legend, dominant college season, when he actually played on an nba court, he was really really good at a very young age.
Averages of 9.4 pts, 7.3 boards and 1.4 blocks over roughly 80 games made him really, really good? Seems pretty average when you compare it to other centers that were picked in the top 5 of the draft. Shaq averaged 23.4 and 13.9 as a rookie; Zo averaged 21 and 10.3. Dwight was at 12 and 10 coming right out of high school.

I'm not saying Oden wouldn't have been good. But I think if he was going to be a dominant force in the league, he would have done more to show it in his first couple years.
That's because he couldn't stay out of foul trouble. He put those numbers up in only 22 minutes.
 
That's because he couldn't stay out of foul trouble. He put those numbers up in only 22 minutes.

That's a fair point, but I'm still not convinced he ever would have been a top 5 player like KD is now. But I guess its all kind of moot point since the fact is he couldn't stay healthy. That said, I do hope he can become serviceable for at least a couple years now.
 
Excited to watch Warriors vs OKC tonight. too bad Westbrook is out. i wonder if OKC will be able to make it a close game like the last 2 meetings 
 
That's because he couldn't stay out of foul trouble. He put those numbers up in only 22 minutes.

That's a fair point, but I'm still not convinced he ever would have been a top 5 player like KD is now. But I guess its all kind of moot point since the fact is he couldn't stay healthy. That said, I do hope he can become serviceable for at least a couple years now.


just the way nba athletes have evolved, it's tough for any big man to have that status considering it's "easier" for guards to pop off for 30 at any given moment. you can't touch perimeter players today, but you can assault big men because the second they throw their weight around, it's an offensive foul. shaq would foul out of every game he played in by the mid 3rd quarter if he played in today's nba :smh:
 
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