2013-2014 NBA Thread - IND @ WAS and OKC @ LAC on ESPN

[kevin cleveland]

If Cousins is truly a dominant center, he should be able to carry any team to at least a .500 record.

Is anything along this line a conventional thought?

Like, there are a lot of people that really believe if one player is good enough, his team should have a certain amount of wins at the end of the season?

I need you guys to understand how nonsensical that is. Nobody is "worth" 41+ wins or whatever by themselves. Ever. That's not how it works.

 

[jj watt]

Is anything along this line a conventional thought?

Like, there are a lot of people that really believe if one player is good enough, his team should have a certain amount of wins at the end of the season?

I need you guys to understand how nonsensical that is. Nobody is "worth" 41+ wins or whatever by themselves. Ever. That's not how it works.

Those 2003/200*****05 Cavs teams ....

 

[awwsome]

Didn't have the stones.

His girl lives next to Amanda Setton. I'm trying to score like Marco Bellinelli.

..........

 

[champcruthik]

Dropping my balls in her like it's two nights ago in Times Square.

She was on Gossip Girl. I'm on the come-up to bag Blake Lively and Leighton Meester like I'm grocery shopping at Trader Joe's.

 

[awwsome]

Would give Blake Lively 8 kids like I'm Phil Rivers without a second or third thought in my mind


Hit her with the Born Ready

 

[champcruthik]

You being nice. Conservative with that number. I'd start my own Modern Family with Blake, Leighton, and can't leave out Minka.

 

[dmbrhs]

Don't know how Blake Lively entered this thread, but I've been on that bandwagon since Accepted. Gossip Girl just made me fall in love with her though.

 

[dt43]

If Cousins is truly a dominant center, he should be able to carry any team to at least a .500 record.

Is anything along this line a conventional thought?

Like, there are a lot of people that really believe if one player is good enough, his team should have a certain amount of wins at the end of the season?

I need you guys to understand how nonsensical that is. Nobody is "worth" 41+ wins or whatever by themselves. Ever. That's not how it works.

You write all that.. yet somehow, in the history of basketball there's been a pretty strong correlation between having a dominant interior presence and team success..

Has the best big man in the league ever been on a bad team? Ever??
Look up the past 30 years and give me one example of the "best big man in the league" of that time period ever being on a bottomfeeder team.


Of course there's no way to prove that a player is worth a set amount of wins. But we do know that post players are generally the most valuable players in basketball. When a PF/C is playing at a high level on both ends of the floor, it almost always translates to wins. If the team isn't winning, then maybe we need to look closer and see if that player is really playing as well as we think he is.

 

[HIM]

You just don't watch Kings games!!!

I agree that love needs to leave minny. Wouldn't mind him backing up Blake.

I guess I need to stop expecting Portland to start losing. They don't miss. Ever. Portland, Suns, Pelicans, kings, lakers (without kobe) have been so much fun to watch. Great NBA season so far.

 

[antidope]

i do not know what is worse if you are an nba fan


having to listen to sean elliot do color commentating


or watching the atlanta hawks play

@Antidope  

I will be serious and say that while everyone may not like Sean Elliot, everyone enjoys seeing the Atlanta Hawks lose.

 

[hood17]

I'd be down for a Warriors/Heat Finals. I like watching Lee and Bogut passing the ball and Bogut is a good shot defender.


My guess the flying schedule would be brutal :x


Yeah too me the only way Indy is beating Miami is if Roy finds a way to dominate more. No reason he shouldn't be averaging 18 minimum ,12 boards, and at least 2 blocks. Dude is soft around the rim. Go Laker Shaq on them and THROW THAT @#$% DOWN BIG MAN!

 

[Master Zik]

I been saying Cousins a 4

Meh to Blake Lively.

Leighton and Minka though

 

[coldcity]

Reminds me of Space Jam when the players lose their talent

holy!!

 

[had pants]

 

[julius wrek]

Scott Brooks has one of the most talented and youthful rosters in the ENTIRE association,

and he played the AARP guys EXTENSIVE minutes tonight.

"Unacceptable" isn't the word for this loss.

There isn't a word in the English language that can accurately describe how inept Scott Brooks is.

Julius F. Wrek

There is really no excuse for them to lose to Brooklyn at home. Even without Westbrook.

Absolutely not, but at one point this dude had Sefolosha, Perkins,and Fisher in the game together. Offensive rating for that lineup... 68. KD is clearly burning out after the 3rd quarters too which combined with the fact defenses adjust to just flat doubling him off or on the ball makes it that much more crucial you have a lineup with other competent offensive players with him and don't give Perk 32 minutes. KD has to stop carnig so much about his stats too, only tookk 14 shots IIRC. A KD contested "bad" shot > a good look by everybody else.

No excuse whatsoever.

These last two games were in hand,

and he just killed the team's chances with his bonehead rotations.

I'd rather see Rex out there at the helm.

Julius F. Wrek

Same conversations over and over again..

Given how much we are going need lamb in the postseason, he should be getting 25-30 per no matter the circumstances.. And especially with Russ being out

Ditto for Reggie, but again especially with Russ out.. But bump that to 30-35

With pj3 showing flashes, I'd try to get him around 20 per


But somehow fisher, Perkins, thabo and hell even collison get all the leeway in the world and still get consistent mins

Collison played 6 minutes (5:51) last night.

He's a steady anchor in the second unit, he really isn't a player I'd be concerned with.

Julius F. Wrek

 

[Peep Game]

Asik for Thornton....well, if Asik is actually injured, why not

 

[sea manup]

of course there have been pretty much one man teams that have made the playoffs (lebron cavs, kobe lakers) but even then those team were able to put a bunch of garbage around their star players in a way to maximize their skill sets, and those two guys are both top 10 all time players.

cant really blame a player for the team not putting the right pieces around him but after free agency if love/dmc doesnt figure out a way to get on a good team (whether demanding the front office to make moves or finding a better team) then we can start blaming the players for the lack of team success.

 

[LIL PRETTY TONE]

Still got a little bit of amazing left in him

 

[tyonenine]

skip is killing kd

 

[black migo]

Basically calling kd the greatest #2 option , the disrespect

 

[JD617]

Why do you guys give him the ratings he desperately seeks?

 

[kevi]

the feels

 

[noblekane]

You just don't watch Kings games!!!

you seem to hate the kings alot

 

[dman14]

You just don't watch Kings games!!!

you seem to hate the kings alot

If you don't like that, you don't like NBA basketball

 

[JD617]

"I believe Thomas Robinson is yelling 'lunch meat' every time Aldridge touches the ball against Josh McRoberts," Ely reported on Twitter  from his baseline spot.
Lunch meat, it turns out, is exactly what Robinson was yelling.

"Lunch meat," Robinson explained to Blazersedge, smiling. "Whatchu do when you got some lunch meat? You eat it. Exactly! Whenever someone [is guarding Aldridge], he's always eating. He's L.A. Whenever somebody on him, he eat him. Lunch meat. That's how it is."

Post defenders are being reduced to nothing more than lifeless strips of bologna, waiting to be consumed.

"There's no one that can really stop him one-on-one on the block, let alone anywhere on the court," Leonard told Blazersedge. "L.A. is so skilled. It basically just means that L.A. is about to get a bucket. He's eating."

Even better, the "lunch meat" cry -- which almost amounts to celebratory pity, if such a thing exists -- is being heard loud and clear on the court.

"It means the guy can't guard me," Aldridge sheepishly told Blazersedge. "That I'm going to score at will. It's not that simple when I'm doing it. They say it looks that easy sometimes. It's fine, but I'm not going to get into it, I'm not going to say it myself."