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as people have said, you have no idea what goes on in timeouts/practice ect. every report/story from lakers practice suggests that kobe is a great leader. you probably think dfish was a bad leader too because he was the worst starting pg in the league.

you were making a decent argument till you said that stupid fisher assumption, every one knows kobe is a great player great worker but he also blames others even when he the one messing up which is a larger portion of the time than is actually put out there. He is the leader of the lakers, that doesnt mean he is a great leader.
 
Just because you're the best player on the team doesn't mean you're the leader


Bull: Noah

Knicks: Chandler
do you say things just to say things? find me one person who has said that kobe wasnt the real leader of those championship teams

people need to educate themselves before they talk
 
Look at this guy back pedal. :rofl:

You honestly tried to say Melo was a better leader and made his teammates better than KD and Rose. We have all seen your criteria of what it takes to be a leader and it's just pitiful. Just stop now 

Smh i said kd and rose arent leaders and dont make there teammates better, i never said melo etc were better at making there teammates better, i said they're better leaders than kd and rose smh
 
 
as people have said, you have no idea what goes on in timeouts/practice ect. every report/story from lakers practice suggests that kobe is a great leader. you probably think dfish was a bad leader too because he was the worst starting pg in the league.
you were making a decent argument till you said that stupid fisher assumption, every one knows kobe is a great player great worker but he also blames others even when he the one messing up which is a larger portion of the time than is actually put out there. He is the leader of the lakers, that doesnt mean he is a great leader.
again showing that you dont follow the lakers/kobe. there have been countless times where kobe blames himself after a loss, where do you get this information from?
 
Smh i said kd and rose arent leaders and dont make there teammates better, i never said melo etc were better at making there teammates better, i said they're better leaders than kd and rose smh
Well then you don't read well do you. I asked you who you thought were better leaders and which players made their teammates better. 

So list reasons as to why Melo is a better leader than KD and Rose.
 
And look at when Rose won MVP and led that team to the level they were and tell me with a straight face that Rondo would have elevated his teammates to that same level. 

What lvl you talking about, not being able to take miami to 7 gms, take rose scrotum of your chin
 
What lvl you talking about, not being able to take miami to 7 gms, take rose scrotum of your chin
Look at how emotional this guy is getting. 
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I see you're unable to carry on a conversation without bringing in genitals and what not. I'll let you cool down before I respond to any more of your uneducated posts.
 
I'd say Kobe and rondo are leaders. Definitely not melo. Rose is sometimes and I don't know about kd because I don't watch okc.
 
again showing that you dont follow the lakers/kobe. there have been countless times where kobe blames himself after a loss, where do you get this information from?

yea cause my exact words were kobe NEVER takes the blame, oh wait I didnt say that. Another assumption that I dont keep up with Kobe and the lakers. Your trying to make a point with the wrong guy buddy. I know kobe is a great player takes losses hard, pushes him self and expects excellence from teammates doesnt mean he doesnt have flaws, doesnt mean he a great leader. im going to move on now you should do the same
 
Look at how emotional this guy is getting. :rofl:

I see you're unable to carry on a conversation without bringing in genitals and what not. I'll let you cool down before I respond to any more of your uneducated posts.

You said rose makes his teammates better than rondo does, thats blasphemous- stephen a
 
 
 
No ya'll saying Kobe isn't a leader because he doesn't pass?

He doesn't make his teammates better. But he is a leader.
pretty much every wing player that we have picked up over the past 5 years has said that they have gotten better from learning from kobe in practice. dude defends pau every time the front office throws him under the bus. but yeah he doesnt make teammates better and only cares about himself 
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 probably the same people that think the only way to make teammates better is to be getting 10 assists a night
Stop. Kobe doesn't make anyone on his team better
 
Just because you're the best player on the team doesn't mean you're the leader


Bull: Noah

Knicks: Chandler
do you say things just to say things? find me one person who has said that kobe wasnt the real leader of those championship teams

people need to educate themselves before they talk
I hope your not talking about the chips with SHAQ.
 
 
Rondo was a non factor the year Celtics won the chip. Pierce KG Posey and PJ Brown were the reason.

Your looking at what they accomplished. That doesn't determine a leader. I can tell you never played on a organized team before.
And you said a leader has to be seen yelling at his teammates for the basketball. I see you've played a ton of organized basketball 
Post the rest of what I said to that. Yelling = VOCAL. VOCAL LEADERS. Rose isn't a vocal leader nor does he make his teammates better by jacking up shots. Melo is more of a leader than Rose. 

Rose doesn't get on his teammates at all. He is the leader of that team ONLY because he is the STAR of that team. 

Tell me how does Rose make his teammates better? What does he do to make his teammates better that Melo doesn't do? All they both do is JACK!

Go ahead i'll wait for you to tell me how DROSE makes his teammates better. 
 
You said rose makes his teammates better than rondo does, thats blasphemous- stephen a
Quote God, I don't really care.

You've made it clear to everyone what your criteria is for being a better leader and making your teammates better. I feel for whoever has to read those posts. You mentioned Carmelo Anthony for Godsake 
 
 
You said rose makes his teammates better than rondo does, thats blasphemous- stephen a
Quote God, I don't really care.

You've made it clear to everyone what your criteria is for being a better leader and making your teammates better. I feel for whoever has to read those posts. You mentioned Carmelo Anthony for Godsake 
 You said Rose makes his teammates better than Rondo though....
 
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again showing that you dont follow the lakers/kobe. there have been countless times where kobe blames himself after a loss, where do you get this information from?
yea cause my exact words were kobe NEVER takes the blame, oh wait I didnt say that. Another assumption that I dont keep up with Kobe and the lakers. Your trying to make a point with the wrong guy buddy. I know kobe is a great player takes losses hard, pushes him self and expects excellence from teammates doesnt mean he doesnt have flaws, doesnt mean he a great leader. im going to move on now you should do the same
you have said nothing to show that kobe isnt a great leader

imo pushing teammates to do their best every practice, defending teammates in the media, helping the coach out in teaching players what to do on offense and defense, even pushing training camp players what probably wont make the team to do their best are all signs of a good leader to me. but thats just me, not everyone would like to play with that kind of leader and if thats the case dont play for the lakers
 
Stop. Kobe doesn't make anyone on his team better
I hope your not talking about the chips with SHAQ.

Post the rest of what I said to that. Yelling = VOCAL. VOCAL LEADERS. Rose isn't a vocal leader nor does he make his teammates better by jacking up shots. Melo is more of a leader than Rose. 

Rose doesn't get on his teammates at all. He is the leader of that team ONLY because he is the STAR of that team. 

Tell me how does Rose make his teammates better? What does he do to make his teammates better that Melo doesn't do? All they both do is JACK!

Go ahead i'll wait for you to tell me how DROSE makes his teammates better. 

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