2013-2014 NBA Thread - IND @ WAS and OKC @ LAC on ESPN

[$tacy]

D rose needs rings and finals MVPs to get in. He just misses 2 seasons and let's be real he's not going to be the same guy he was. In order to get in the hof its gonna take a championship run or 2

 

[Bert.]

Rose got a better case tho that MVP holds major weight, haven't they all entered the HOF ?

Voters were made at LB. Lets really be serious now

 

[datznasty]

KG should've went to Miami TBH. But he all bout his money

El oh el I don't think he's a ring hopper

Actually, KG Ray and Paul originated the Big 3 concept of superstars colluding to join forces and pursue a championship. They were the first Big 3 before LeBron made his decision

 

[awwsome]

Actually, KG Ray and Paul originated the Big 3 concept of superstars colluding to join forces and pursue a championship. They were the first Big 3 before LeBron made his decision

I'm sleep though.

 

[Bert.]

KG should've went to Miami TBH. But he all bout his money

El oh el I don't think he's a ring hopper

Actually, KG Ray and Paul originated the Big 3 concept of superstars colluding to join forces and pursue a championship. They were the first Big 3 before LeBron made his decision

did Piece and KG meet with each other to join forces? did they call Ray too? told him to force a trade for the 5th pick?

 

[mjsaver]

They were already old and past their prime datznasty so it is a difference, the Heat were in their prime for the most part.

 

[dt43]

I don't see Irving ever being that super explosive guy who can carry an elite team with his scoring, but I also don't really see him becoming a passing pg who can run an efficient offense. He'll be a great player no doubt, but you're always gonna have problems integrating a point guard like that into a team concept

Why can't he score and run an efficient offense? And it's never hard to integrate a good 3 point shooting point guard into a team concept, especially when he has one of the most elite handles in the game. I think Kyrie could be plugged into any elite team in need of a point guard and fit in perfectly.

What you mean to say is that he could never be #1 option on an elite team, which I think is true. He needs someone as good or better than him on his team.

It's not his skillset or talent that's the problem, it's his mentality. When you watch him play, he doesn't seem to have a good grasp of how to get his teammates involved. He fuels himself by scoring first, and playmaking second. Basically he has that Nick Young/JR Smith mentality (obviously far more talented) where he predicates his game on scoring, he fuels his personal confidence by getting buckets

Irving played the 2 in high school, he still has that pure scoring mentality which would be great if he were a 6'6 SG, but not so much when you're a PG and are tasked with initiating offense for your teammates. What ends up happening a lot of times, is his teammates are just standing around watching him dribble instead of being involved in the play

I don't know about plugging him in to any elite team. He can score, but he doesn't bring any other intangibles that usually put elite teams over the top. CP3, Westbrook, Mike Conley, Tony Parker, Wall, Kyle Lowry, and others are actually better than their boxscore stats, because of the intangibles they bring in other areas. Irving is one of those players who is worse than his stats, he's not efficient and gets a lot of his numbers at the expense of team basketball. So it's hard to really say "Oh Irving is averaging 22/6, you can just plug him in for so and so on this other team and they'd be fine" because you're not considering what you are losing in other areas.

Of course if he had Durant, Griffin, etc they'd be a good team but Kyrie isn't the ideal PG imo

 

[$tacy]

Because ray Allen made sure he got traded to Boston and Boston only. Stop trying to compare the 2 their not the same. KG is the only person who made a decision to go somewhere

 

[pmatic]

KG should've went to Miami TBH. But he all bout his money

El oh el I don't think he's a ring hopper

Actually, KG Ray and Paul originated the Big 3 concept of superstars colluding to join forces and pursue a championship. They were the first Big 3 before LeBron made his decision

Eh, Ray had no choice in joining the Celtics and KG had to be convinced by Chauncey Billups to join the Celtics.

 

[tommyicerocking]

been a fan of Gerald Green since he was a rookie for the C's....I think it's now safe to say he is my favorite player in the game 

 

 

[$tacy]

Eh, Ray had no choice in joining the Celtics and KG had to be convinced by Chauncey Billups to join the Celtics.

I'm sleep tho

 

[Tony $now]

been a fan of Gerald Green since he was a rookie for the C's....I think it's now safe to say he is my favorite player in the game 


 

He has been feasting since he got more mins

 

[awwsome]

Rose made 34 million for playing 10 games the last two seasons.

Somewhere Andrew Bynum weeps.

 

[MVP]

at the Wade, James and Bosh colluding together being remotely close to how the Celtics came together.

 

[addict4sneakers]

Rose made 34 million for playing 10 games the last two seasons.

Somewhere Andrew Bynum weeps.

Not eeem counting Adidas money

 

[sea manup]

Rose made 34 million for playing 10 games the last two seasons.

Somewhere Andrew Bynum weeps.

kobe almost made that much for playing 6 games this season 

 

[$tacy]

Get your free money black man [emoji]9994[/emoji]i aunt eem mad at d rose

 

[Bert.]

Rose made 34 million for playing 10 games the last two seasons.


Somewhere Andrew Bynum weeps.

kobe almost made that much for playing 6 games this season 

Kobe is winning 24/7

 

[victor page]

Kobe is winning 24/7

Get off his **** man. You a grown *** man.

 

[JD617]

 

[818shoe]

Get off his **** man. You a grown *** man.

lol. Hahaahb. Zyzz got Kobe nuts on his chin

 

[certifiedflyboi23]

25 and 15 from Quake tomorrow.

 

[victor page]

I went to check to see if the Bucks still had their amnesty provision...cause they need to get OJ Mayo out of town pronto...and was surprised to see that they used it on Drew Gooden. I was even more surprised to see that they signed him to a 5 year, $32 million deal in 2010 

 

 

[big j 33]

Unfortunately, even if they had their amnesty, they couldn't use it on OJ. The player had to signed prior to the new CBA in order to qualify.

 

[victor page]

Unfortunately, even if they had their amnesty, they couldn't use it on OJ. The player had to signed prior to the new CBA in order to qualify.

Forgot about that. Sucks for them and Detroit.

Also, just read that these are the squads that still have their amnesty:

Atlanta 

Boston

Chicago

Detroit  (No Eligible Players)

Memphis

New Orleans  (No Eligible Players)

OKC 

Sacramento  (No Eligible Players)

San Antonio

Utah  (No Eligible Players)

I think the most obvious next amnesty is Carlos Boozer. Kendrick Perkins SHOULD have been gone.