2013-2014 NBA Thread - IND @ WAS and OKC @ LAC on ESPN

[shoeking2101]

I think its safe to say Lebron is in the top 5 of basketball players of ALL TIME

Thought this was common knowledge.

 

[shoeking2101]

michael jordan
kareem abdul jabar
magic johnson
larry bird
wilt chamberlain

take someone out that list

Larry Legend

 

[awwsome]

Let Bron finish his career first please

 

[cash money 1999]

Larry Legend

what does lebron do better than bird?

 

[awwsome]

Defend easily

 

[tommyicerocking]

 
michael jordan

kareem abdul jabar

magic johnson

larry bird

wilt chamberlain

take someone out that list

Lebron peak is better than Kareem/Magic/Bird IMHO

 

[urbetterthenme]

 
Lebron peak is better than Kareem/Magic/Bird IMHO

Correct.

 

[awwsome]

What Lebron did last year has never been done by a perimeter player in the history of the NBA but still you can't put his career in perspective until its over, we still have more greatness to witness

 

[shoeking2101]

what does lebron do better than bird?

He's a better finisher at the rim, he's a better shot creator, and he's better off the bounce. He's also a better defender than Bird was.

 

[urbetterthenme]

He's a better finisher at the rim, he's a better shot creator, and he's better off the bounce. He's also a better defender than Bird was.

and a better passer. Lebron can be perfect at any position

 

[tommyicerocking]

BASED ON career achievements...Lebron isn't better than anyone of those 5 guys u named because his career isn't done (debatable), but if he keeps this pace, he will easily top Magic, Bird, Kareem, Wilt....i don't think Lebron will ever be better than MJ (regardless if Lebron win 7 rings), based on the fact MJ changed the game, his popularity  and his stans.

 

[shoeking2101]

Lebron peak is better than Kareem/Magic/Bird IMHO

I agree. I'll take it a step further.

His peak could be better than Kareem/Magic/Bird/Jordan/whomever else.

What this guy is doing is unbelievable. He isn't even 30. If he keeps what he's doing up right now, that'll arguably be a peak that's better than anyone else in league history. However, that depends on how long he can extend his peak, or his prime that he is in now.

And as far as top 5, I just feel that he's already done enough to be top 5. He's done it all on a level done by maybe only a few players have done it ever. That's top 5 material.

 

[cash money 1999]

larry to me is a better rebounder,faciliator, shooter and crunch time scorer

lettuce not forget he swept jordan twice and played against the bad boy

pistons,showtime era lakers and countless other hall of famers

he won 3 straight MVP'S in magic's prime and was a career 25-10-6-2 guy

im not saying lebron cant ecplise that ..i would just like to see him play a few more seasons

before we make judgement on an all time list

 

[shoeking2101]

and a better passer. Lebron can be perfect at any position

Larry's a great passer as well, But I agree. When I say that Lebron is a better shot creator, I didn't mean just for himself I meant for others as well.

 

[tommyicerocking]

 
and a better passer. Lebron can be perfect at any position

i think that is debatable...Bird was an amazingly good passer/playermaker just like Lebron.







http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/b/birdla01.html

and thats without being a ball dominate player

 

[cash money 1999]

 
and a better passer. Lebron can be perfect at any position

pardon me

defensively lebron IS better though

bird was a high iq scrappy defender , just not a great on the ball defender in my opinion

 

[sea manup]

 

 
michael jordan

kareem abdul jabar

magic johnson

larry bird

wilt chamberlain

take someone out that list

Lebron peak is better than Kareem/Magic/Bird IMHO

if you want to be regarded as a top 5/top 10 player you cant just look at peak you have to look at what they have done as a whole. i think lebron will be top 5 when he retires but as of now, with two championships, he's not there yet. if he were to never win another title then he would not be top 5.

and peak wilt is the most overrated player in sports, how can you be top 5 all time when you only led your team to one championship while having the same guy beat you in the playoffs every year

 

[cash money 1999]

i actually think he could one day be top 3,2,1 etc sky's the limit

i just need to see him body people in a few more finals before we

make judgement on his career

 

[addict4sneakers]

and a better passer. Lebron can be perfect at any position

Larry's a great passer as well, But I agree. When I say that Lebron is a better shot creator, I didn't mean just for himself I meant for others as well.

i'm not a fan of comparing players from different eras, but larry was a great play maker. let's not front on his 6 apg career average. and i'm willing to bet his usage rate is a lot lower than lebrons

 

[urbetterthenme]

Lebron is 6'8 and 260 but is one of the fastest and aglie players ever and can do anything.

 

[sea manup]

 
i actually think he could one day be top 3,2,1 etc sky's the limit

i just need to see him body people in a few more finals before we

make judgement on his career

yup, pretty much what i'm saying

and yeah if he does end up with 7 chips then i would put him above jordan

 

[urbetterthenme]

 
yup, pretty much what i'm saying

and yeah if he does end up with 7 chips then i would put him above jordan

Yup 7 puts him above Jordan easy. And honestly he could get 7....

 

[shoeking2101]

I think most would agree that there's no telling how great he can become. It's beautiful to watch honestly. I'm potentially watching someone who has a great shot at being the greatest ever.

 

[antidope]

Oh boy, top 5 arguments in the preseason

 

[sea manup]

 

 
yup, pretty much what i'm saying

and yeah if he does end up with 7 chips then i would put him above jordan

Yup 7 puts him above Jordan easy. And honestly he could get 7....

but as of october 24th (25th for you east coasters) 2013, lebron has 2 championships

so lets chill with the top 5 all time talk