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Well obviously but that resorts to different types of leading.

Rose is gonna come down the floor and hit a huge 3 or dunk

Rondo is gonna have a steal / no look pass / break down a defense

There's no set way to "leadl
Right. Nobody wants to list criteria of being an exceptional leader. Well not unless you count that one guy saying "a leader yells at his teammates"
 
 
 
THERE YOU GO. 
And where did I say Rose is a better leader? I was asking a question.

Just like I asked if Rondo would have led the Bulls to the level they were at when Rose won MVP. 
Why would you ask such a stupid question like that if you were agreeing with me that Rondo makes his teammates better than Rose? 

You acting like Rondo didn't lead the Celtics.
 
Well obviously but that resorts to different types of leading.

Rose is gonna come down the floor and hit a huge 3 or dunk

Rondo is gonna have a steal / no look pass / break down a defense

There's no set way to "leadl

Joe johnson hits a ton ton of huge shots, you wouldnt dare call him a leader, at the end of the day you dont see d rose holding his teammates accountable on the court like a rondo,cp3 or kobe, hes not a leader, its not in his blood
 
 
 
That goes without saying.
Well obviously but that resorts to different types of leading.

Rose is gonna come down the floor and hit a huge 3 or dunk

Rondo is gonna have a steal / no look pass / break down a defense

There's no set way to "lead'
this. leadership isnt about playstyle, its about if you can get your team to follow you
Cool.

But Rose still doesn't make his teammates better.
 
 
Well obviously but that resorts to different types of leading.

Rose is gonna come down the floor and hit a huge 3 or dunk

Rondo is gonna have a steal / no look pass / break down a defense

There's no set way to "leadl
Joe johnson hits a ton ton of huge shots, you wouldnt dare call him a leader, at the end of the day you dont see d rose holding his teammates accountable on the court like a rondo,cp3 or kobe, hes not a leader, its not in his blood
Exactly.

Man im gon run out of reps.
 
Again, you are unable to hold conversations without making things personal. Kudos. Keep on naming Carmelo Anthony though, that's not clownish at all.
 
Why would you ask such a stupid question like that if you were agreeing with me that Rondo makes his teammates better than Rose? 

You acting like Rondo didn't lead the Celtics.
And you acting like Rose didn't lead the Bulls when he got MVP

How is asking how Rondo makes his teammates better than Rose a stupid question? I'm just asking you to explain, no need to get angry 
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If Rondo was on that Bulls team they'll be a better team. He'll have Boozer and Noah looking good night in and night out. Deng will have it easy too. 

Ask any player in the NBA. They'll love to have a passing PG.

How good did Nash make that Phoenix team? 
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regarding rose, i have yet to see much leadership from him (although i dont watch the bulls much so if anyone would like to show me i would be happy to see it)

however not being that much of a leader now =/= never going to be a good leader
 
 
If Rondo was on that Bulls team they'll be a better team. He'll have Boozer and Noah looking good night in and night out. Deng will have it easy too. 

Ask any player in the NBA. They'll love to have a passing PG.

How good did Nash make that Phoenix team? 
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Perhaps the Bulls would like to have a passing point guard, but they would miss scoring as well. Rose does just enough as floor general.
 
 
Again, you are unable to hold conversations without making things personal. Kudos. Keep on naming Carmelo Anthony though, that's not clownish at all.
 
Why would you ask such a stupid question like that if you were agreeing with me that Rondo makes his teammates better than Rose? 

You acting like Rondo didn't lead the Celtics.
And you acting like Rose didn't lead the Bulls when he got MVP

How is asking how Rondo makes his teammates better than Rose a stupid question? I'm just asking you to explain, no need to get angry 
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How is it not a stupid question when you already believe Rondo makes his teammates better? 

Who else was contending for the MVP award?

2nd Place was Dwight Howard with a 4th seed Magic Team.

3rd Place was a Lebron who teamed up with Wade and nobody thought he or Wade should be in talks because they formed a super team.

Chicago's defense is the reason he won because that defense led them to a 62-20 record.

You don't take the most shots in a NBA season and end up 7th on PPG. 

Sorry. He got a award that could've gone to Monte Ellis if he was PG on the team that season. Or Westbrook. 
 
Once again yelling in someone's face / causing a scene at half court = doesn't make you a leader.

Different people lead in different way. As long as the message is received.

So are you saying just because your the best on your team that automatically makes you the leader, noah is the leader for the bulls and i'll put booz ahead of rose, right now rose is just a great player that does his job, idk if you played basketball but one thing the coach always tells you is to communicate at all times
 
How is it not a stupid question when you already believe Rondo makes his teammates better? 

Who else was contending for the MVP award?

2nd Place was Dwight Howard with a 4th seed Magic Team.

3rd Place was a Lebron who teamed up with Wade and nobody thought he or Wade should be in talks because they formed a super team.


Chicago's defense is the reason he won because that defense led them to a 62-20 record.

You don't take the most shots in a NBA season and end up 7th on PPG. 

Sorry. He got a award that could've gone to Monte Ellis if he was PG on the team that season. Or Westbrook. 



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Monte avg 24.1 that season and didn't take nearly the same amount of shots rose took. Rose #10 on AST that season. Wasn't even in the top 30 for steals in the league. 
 
regarding rose, i have yet to see much leadership from him (although i dont watch the bulls much so if anyone would like to show me i would be happy to see it)

however not being that much of a leader now =/= never going to be a good leader

See i can be objective and yes i follow the bulls rose is a great floor leader teammate etc, his teammates follow him into war because of his ability and will to win but he knows and admits the overall leader of this team is DENG and Noah, its not about who the best player or does the most.

If you personally ask me rose not going to call you out, I honestly think he believes he is getting the most out of that Roster which may or may not be true depending on who you ask
 
 
regarding rose, i have yet to see much leadership from him (although i dont watch the bulls much so if anyone would like to show me i would be happy to see it)

however not being that much of a leader now =/= never going to be a good leader
See i can be objective and yes i follow the bulls rose is a great floor leader teammate etc, his teammates follow him into war because of his ability and will to win but he knows and admits the overall leader of this team is DENG and Noah, its not about who the best player or does the most.

If you personally ask me rose not going to call you out, I honestly think he believes he is getting the most out of that Roster which may or may not be true depending on who you ask
i guess ill take your word for it, from the games i have watched this year it seems like his team is making an active effort to get him going. thats what good teams do though, they pick each other up. once rose gets back to his old self we will start seeing him leading his team to victories 
 
The bulls don't have enough scoring to offset the loss of the scoring option that is rose.

Simply switching rose for rondo isn't going to propel one team over the other.
 
If Rondo was on that Bulls team they'll be a better team. He'll have Boozer and Noah looking good night in and night out. Deng will have it easy too. 

Ask any player in the NBA. They'll love to have a passing PG.

How good did Nash make that Phoenix team? 
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man shut up tired of you sounding like a bitter female when it comes to rose.

for most of rondo career he has benefited from the talent around him, by no means am i saying rondo isnt good, but you cant even compare the situations.

Cant wait to hear your logic on this I guess when rondo passes them the ball it will magically make them convert the bucket right
Rondo/CP3/DWILL/PRIME NASH would make CHI a better team.
 
I'm not sure Rondo would make the Bulls a better team


He can't score and they don't have enough shooters to make up for Rose absence..
 
I'm not sure Rondo would make the Bulls a better team


He can't score and they don't have enough shooters to make up for Rose absence..

Idk if it would make a difference because thats a hypothetical statement, but rondo would make the game much easier for noah & deng etc, his iq is just on a different lvl than d rose, rondo may not be a good shooter yet but he can still score if he has to
 
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