The Minnesota Timberwolves Thread: Timberwolves, Anthony Bennett part ways

[carver]

Yeah at this point we midas whale keep him and see what he's got..tomorrows gonna be a good day brahs

 

[Brownstone]

We still have to lose Barea, and I'd like to see what we could get a young wing prospect for Pek.

 

[651akathepaul]

Happy about Bennett too, but was fine with him being dealt right away as well...I just didn't think the Wolves could get Thaddeus without including AB. Job well done, Flip.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

Wasting a first round pick to get Thad Young, this is why coaches shouldn't be GM's.

 

[carver]

More so to get rid of those two dudes contract..if Thad is anything he is a guy who plays this year and a solid love replacement and 10 free million off the cap next season..and its not like that first round pick was worth much..it would have been in the 20s and the nba isn't like the NFL where first round picks are amazing. If it ain't lottery its poop..even then its still meh

 

[Brownstone]

First round picks are quickly becoming overrated. I'd much rather part ways with the 28th pick than AB.

And if you do value picks, think of it as we just got 3 first rounders for Love, 2 of which were number 1 picks.

 

[651akathepaul]

Wasting a first round pick to get Thad Young, this is why coaches shouldn't be GM's.

Depends on the circumstance. In this case, I'm totally fine with it for the Wolves. Thaddeus can be a very valuable role player on this young team. I will take that as the given over the uncertainty of what I'm assuming will be a pick in the 20's. Minnesota still owns their own pick anyway.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

First round picks are quickly becoming overrated. I'd much rather part ways with the 28th pick than AB.

And if you do value picks, think of it as we just got 3 first rounders for Love, 2 of which were number 1 picks.

1. If first round picks are so over valued by the league all the more reason to keep it. You couldn't trade Thad Young straight up for any first round pick, Sixers tried like hell to move him at the deadline.

2. Think of it was 3 first rounders? No it doesn't work that way, the reason people love first round picks is because you have a young cost controlled asset for multiple years, 1 year of Thad young is worth diddley squat.

Depends on the circumstance. In this case, I'm totally fine with it for the Wolves. Thaddeus can be a very valuable role player on this young team. I will take that as the given over the uncertainty of what I'm assuming will be a pick in the 20's. Minnesota still owns their own pick anyway.

If you love Thad young so much, sign him in a year and keep the pick. You are going to suck anyways.

 

[651akathepaul]

You're not guaranteed he goes to Minnesota, that's the whole point of a trade. They're better with Thaddeus Young than they are without. Proven player > unknown rookie in the range of picks where history suggests you don't get the type of player that's as good as TY is now. That's all there is to it. The deal fits the circumstance just fine.

 

[carver]

Like I said earlier..Thad is a solid starter for a year and then 10m off the books next season if he chooses to walk which he's likely going to do. That 20 something pick in the draft is irrelevant..we can't just fill the whole team up with 19 and 20 year olds..we need proven vets like Thad and other old heads in the locker room. That late pick was worth giving up shved and mbahandudnwvwkxute..no teams gonna take them as is, that first rounder packaged with those two dudes are the only way any team is gonna accept a trade. I think they really wanted to get rid of barea but no one wants him

 

[osh kosh bosh]

You're not guaranteed he goes to Minnesota, that's the whole point of a trade. They're better with Thaddeus Young than they are without. Proven player > unknown rookie in the range of picks where history suggests you don't get the type of player that's as good as TY is now. That's all there is to it. The deal fits the circumstance just fine.

that would matter if you are trying to win the chip next year, you aren't so all that matters is the value of your assets.


The pick is worth more than thad young on the trade market, its miss use of resources.


You are guaranteeing one year of thad young on a horrible team, thats worth nothing.


you want to collect assets instead you wasted on on 1 year of thad young, not smart business.

not to mention the Heat are a dwade injury away from maybe missing the playoffs, could be a late lottery pick. all for only one year of player who isn't that good to begin with.

Have you seen the market for PF's who don't protect the rim or shoot three's? It's terrible. you burnt an asset to get one of the least valuable type of players and go 22-60 instead of 20-62.

 

[jpzx]

****, we're not going to get Allen Crabbe! There's a zero percent chance we sign Thad Young after this year!

OH NOOOOOOOOO

 

[osh kosh bosh]

****, we're not going to get Allen Crabbe! There's a zero percent chance we sign Thad Young after this year!

OH NOOOOOOOOO

Zach Lavine just got drafted, I though it was a complete reach, I think there is way more bust than boom, I disliked his game all college seasons, and he could end up as Austin Rivers, or maybe he's as good as thad young, or maybe he's a little better, statsitically the average return of a pick in the late lottery is not much better than thad young.

Would you trade Zach Lavine for Thad Young?

How about Gerogi Deng?

Unless the awnser is yess don't talk to me about how overrated 1st round picks are.

 

[jpzx]

I would absolutely trade Zach LaVine for one year of Thaddeus Young. I hate him.

 

[Brownstone]

There's no guarantee that you even get a player that produces at the 20+ spot, which is where the heat will be even if they lose wade. 

And we get to shed Shved and Mboute too.... Next up Barea and Martin for Thomas Robinson

 

Seriously though, I think we should do what the Lakers did last year, take a bunch of young outcasts and let them play and see what we get, and if any of them stick. Meanwhile we shed our unwanted salaries.

 

[osh kosh bosh]

I would absolutely trade Zach LaVine for one year of Thaddeus Young. I hate him.

There's no guarantee that you even get a player that produces at the 20+ spot, which is where the heat will be even if they lose wade.

And we get to shed Shved and Mboute too.... Next up Barea and Martin for Thomas Robinson

Seriously though, I think we should do what the Lakers did last year, take a bunch of young outcasts and let them play and see what we get, and if any of them stick. Meanwhile we shed our unwanted salaries.

Would you trade Zach Lavine/Gerogi Deng for 1 year of Thad Young?

were talking about the value of assets, not about the theoretical production of 1st round pick vs thad young.

 

[kidkain]

The article I read said the Sixers got the first round pick from Cleveland.....

 

[hood17]

Wish Shevd would have stayed but he played himself to the end of the bench last year. Bazz at the 2?

 

[bhzmafia14]

Minnesota can really have a good thing going if they are smart the next few offseasons. Honestly, it would be nice if they could move Pek and Martin this season. IMO, its pointless to have those two long term contracts on the team and they will not make a difference. Pek will also hinder Dieng from fully developing. I'm not sure what the market for Pek and Martin is, but maybe the Suns would be okay with trading for Pek.

Thad, Barea, Turiaf all come off the books next offseason and that'll pretty much leave them with...

Dieng
Bennett
Rubio
Lavine
Wiggins
Shabazz
Brewer (if he picks up his PO)
Budinger (if he picks up his PO)

If they decide to go with a Rubio / Wiggins backcourt and Bennett / Dieng frontcourt, their only real hole will be at SF. Now, I would not suggest them spend all of their money on a SF in free agency. Just continue to build with what they have. If the 2015 1st round pick is protected 1-10, Minnesota needs to continue their rebuild mode and acquire another young piece next offseason. I really don't like the fact they gave up a 1st for Thad unless they are able to turn Thad into something else at the deadline.

 

[hood17]

If Rubio wants the max he better play his ***** off this season. And I'm not talking about individual stats. BE THE REASON we contended for a Playoff spot.

 

[carver]

Wish I could be at the state fair today.. or that them bros would have been there on Friday when I'm gonna be there.

 

[durantula]

Wiggy got his number

 

[ognikehead85]

 

[RyGuy45]

Osh it's time to stop over analyzing one small part of the overall Wolves trade In a Timberwolves thread you are not going to get many people complaining about the team bringing in a competent player for a future back-end first rounder, regardless of how many angles you slice the terms.

Let's move along to today's Glen Taylor news. In 2008 he blasts Garnett on his way out (which he got destroyed for) and now........you think it's smart to do it again.

"I think where maybe (Love) got away with some stuff not playing defense on our team, I'm not sure that's how it's going to work in Cleveland," Glen Taylor said on ESPN Radio 1500 AM in the Twin Cities on Tuesday. "I would guess they're going to ask him to play more defense, and he's foul-prone."

"I question Kevin if this is going to be the best deal for him, because I think he's going to be the third player on the team," Taylor added. "I don't think he's going to get a lot of credit if they do really well. I think he'll get blame if they don't do well. He's around a couple guys that are awful good."

Taylor also questioned the durability of Love, who has twice suffered a broken hand, which caused him to miss most of the 2012-13 season.

"The only thing I still have a question mark about is health," Taylor said. "I had that concern then [when they negotiated his previous contract], and I still have that concern. I think Cleveland should have that concern, too."

Comedy.

 

[theenorthstar]

Draft Day .. A Wiggins.