Nike Air Trainer 3 retro's over the years

Gonna wait on that pack to his sales/outlet/clearance racks.

Nike putting out too much stuff for my pockets.
 
Blacks remind me of these:
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2004-2005 Nike Air Trainer 1 low FT (first take).. That shoe had the real scratched pitted nubuck, with a real leather toebox and real leather tongue. QUALITY for days.

These AT IIIs seem like they are more of an all felt material. It should be a pretty soft upper, if anything. No leather, but no pleather. I guess we take what I can get.

As for the at III med ball '14 retros, another 3 hour day breaking them in. Still hurting a bit on the pinky toes. Im really hoping that subsides. My toe seems to be right in that flex point where the rubber of the upper is (has nothing to do with the leather quality). Internally, it does seem that there are a few rough stitched edges that may need time to iron out.

I saw a fellow NTer a few posts back mention he still had the 09s.. What do you think when you compare the two? Two wears in and the toeboxes arent exactly creasing up like I thought they were. THey are still pretty soft, stand alone. But I do feel they will break in nicely. These will be worn up until christmas no doubt. By then those NDC buyers may know exactly what they are getting
 
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In comparison terms, in 2005 there was an air trainer 3 all white leather/gum button release
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EVERYTHING on the upper was leather.

This release phase seems to have the strap and other rubber elements stay as a white rubber.. White rubber tends to yellow/age faster than leather. Just a FYI.

my advice: Stick with the black version exclusively
 
Yeah, I have the JJ Watt 5.0 Trainers that are white/gum, and haven't even taken them out of the box yet.  Even though I just copped the Black/Gum 1s, and will grab the KDs, can't have enough Black/Gum.

It would be nice if they were a little softer (less sturdy) material.  But, like you, I don't count on it.
 
This photo here
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The outline on the swoosh and other black material elements look to take on a thicker softer felt.. I would be very surprised if this shoe was a stiff shoe. Other than a real rubber forefoot piece, and heel piece, the upper looks entirely non pleather or leather like. It even seems a bit ashy, if that makes sense, lending itself to felt like qualities. Leather or pleather usually has a sheen or shine to it from the flash or natural lighting. This looks felt like, which may be harder to clean, but more comfortable
 
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The description says they're suede not felt. Looks very similar to the suede quality I have on some of my AF-1 iDs I made in the past. Those black and gum joints may be the first ATs I'll purchase since the SC II QS
 
I have the 09 pair, really beat up, worn at least 100 times. I know most in this thread hate the 09 version, but it feels great on my size 14 foot. The midsole has gone to hell, tons of cracking on both the white and blue sections, but no pinky toe issue at all for me.

Most have cited the differences in the two, leather tongue, mesh around the ankle, softer leather on the 14 version. I haven't yet worn the 14 because my 09s have some life left.
 
wallyhopp wallyhopp thanks for the review and for posting that pic of the last white/gum bottom retro. Those were definitely an all leather upper which makes me rethink this upcoming retro. I'll go for those black suede gym soles but the all white upper with rubber on he strap and heel just means the rubber parts are gonna yellow like crazy which I think will just stand out way too much.
 
The black/gum's :wow: :pimp:
Copped the Medicine Ball's the other day. Definitely better leather used on these than the '09's upon inspection.
They were worth the $130 to me.
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I agree that the '09s had poor pleather quality.  However, of all the TRIIIs/SCs that I have, my '09 medicines are the most comfortable with no pinky toe issue.  The midsoles are cracked, but not too badly, the rest of the shoe still looks great.  The plastic on the '14s looks whiter than the '09 (which I prefer), but can't tell for sure from the pics.  Given the better leather quality, it's too bad they couldn't do the correct perforations; any theory on that?  

I bought mine in '09 for $65 on eBay back when there either wasn't BIN functionality, or people simply didn't use it like they do now.  I miss those days when everything started at $0.01!  The '14s are definitely better leather quality, however, not different looking enough for me...Still wishing the OG navy/white would retro already!  Just bought a 2001 pair worn once for $65 in my size; been waiting 16 years to own that shoe, which started it all for me.  I'm going to wear it even if it falls apart!

I also miss the OG days when the lower midsoles weren't painted.  White was the color of the material, and it simply yellowed with age.  I prefer yellow to cracking paint.  They really should die that area instead...so frustrating!
 
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agree on the paint

but...this sounds crazy - but all my af89 retros from 2012 have almost no paint issues just like nike's used to be
the paint on 'em looks thick like it would crack easy but has not over 2 years of use (one pair being my beaters)
 
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agree on the paint

but...this sounds crazy - but all my af89 retros from 2012 have almost no paint issues just like nike's used to be
the paint on 'em looks thick like it would crack easy but has not over 2 years of use (one pair being my beaters)

Same thing with all the recent Jordan retros too...

All the recent 3-6 retros since 2011-12 have had more durable midsole paint than before. I beat the hell out of my Military 4's from 2012 and theres hardly a stress crease in the midsole
 
 
I agree that the '09s had poor pleather quality.  However, of all the TRIIIs/SCs that I have, my '09 medicines are the most comfortable with no pinky toe issue.  The midsoles are cracked, but not too badly, the rest of the shoe still looks great.  The plastic on the '14s looks whiter than the '09 (which I prefer), but can't tell for sure from the pics.  Given the better leather quality, it's too bad they couldn't do the correct perforations; any theory on that?  

I bought mine in '09 for $65 on eBay back when there either wasn't BIN functionality, or people simply didn't use it like they do now.  I miss those days when everything started at $0.01!  The '14s are definitely better leather quality, however, not different looking enough for me...Still wishing the OG navy/white would retro already!  Just bought a 2001 pair worn once for $65 in my size; been waiting 16 years to own that shoe, which started it all for me.  I'm going to wear it even if it falls apart!

I also miss the OG days when the lower midsoles weren't painted.  White was the color of the material, and it simply yellowed with age.  I prefer yellow to cracking paint.  They really should die that area instead...so frustrating!
The saddest part is that Nike still dyes some midsoles and goes cheap on most other retros and just paints them.

I have the Nike Air Revolution "vintage" that released a year ago and the midsole is dyed and shows ZERO chipping/cracking after lots of wear. Also, the midsoles on my SC II QS have no cracking either.
 
Midsole paint chipping is one area that Nike has actually improved on (knock on wood). My at1 '12 chlorophylls are holding up nicely. It's odd though. I have multiple '00 at1 chlorophylls and some chip, some dont. A few seem to have the paint physically penetrate into the midsole over time. Even the '02 overseas release saw some terrible chipping. Almost every at1 and ATIII retro from '00 through to maybe '06 had paint issues.. The rare exception was the 2004 air trainer 1 low (a new retro model, the white grey og colorway). That model had a white foam midsole from the get go. No true paint it seems... The '12 at1 chloros seem to be paint but arent chipping... Truly odd inconsistent stuff. I know both the 09 sc high auburns and 09 med balls paint chipped.. Inconsitencies between models and years. I guess we're in that good phase now

As far as comfort, my 09 sc high auburns that everyone blasted for quality (myself included) are actually pretty darn comfortable.. My '12 at1 chlorophylls are comfortable too. Comfort vs. Quality will sadly be a battle that never ends with Nike. We just have to take what we get and hope for both
 
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I would love to hear the conversations Nike has regarding how to manufacture/paint the midsoles!  It really is pathetic.  For that price, chipping shouldn't even be a discussion.... And yet we know we'll still be buying our favorite class shoes regardless....
 
soleaddict33 soleaddict33 - You just reminded me that I have those QS Revolutions. Thanks, good sir :nerd: (Repped)
The "dyed midsole" talk has me flashing back to 2011 when cats were on suicide watch talking about paint chipping on the IIIs.
 
I think they purposely use paint that chips so that you either have to restore the shoes yourself or buy the new retro when it releases.
 
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