The MMA Thread: DON'T ASK 4 STREAMS & NO GIFS- UFC 300 ON NOW

[nelson999]

Fight could go either way, no way i could ever put money on this fight.

I like DC and hope he has a belt at some point, but i can't root for him against Bones.

****** pumped for this fight, just hoping it doesn't end up a fight where DC lays on Jones the entire fight kind of like Sonnen vs Silva

and Cerrone on the card, one of my favorite fighters 

 

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

These guys 

 

[thorrocksjs]

Very good article . Jon really reminds me a lot of Lebron .The constant brand building and contradicted himself .Dude is just human yet he knows he needs to build this brand to sustain himself for a lifetime

 

[ben roethlisberger]

Bones is quite the business man.

I'm leaning towards DC, though.

 

[bigpat630]

Got a PS4 game on the line with a buddy. I'm rolling with DC.

 

[HEATHEN]

I've been waiting for this fight for a long, long time.


I've long detested Jon Jones. His disingenuous humble routine he did earlier in his career I saw right through. **** this fake smug diva.


And to be honest the guy came into the division when the old guard was already on its way out. Prime Rampage & Shogun would've been different match-ups completely.


Guy has never faced a truly elite wrestler. Sonnen wanted no part and Bader isn't anywhere near the caliber Cormier is.


205 has been devoid of elite wrestlers and Cormier represents the unknown for Jones, long has Jones been able to beat fighters at their own games, he's not going to do it against Cormier, period.

So what then? What happens if you can't keep it standing Jones? If you can't stop the takedown? Are you REALLY that confident about your ability to fight off your back? Your clinch game isn't better than Cormier's either, his superior leverage will dictate the fight on the cage as well. What happens when you can't land your patented compact elbows?


These are questions I look forward to being answered on Saturday.


******* WAR CORMIER!!!

 

[HEATHEN]

****** pumped for this fight, just hoping it doesn't end up a fight where DC lays on Jones the entire fight kind of like Sonnen vs Silva

Sonnen vs Silva I?

What fight were you watching? Because I saw Sonnen land some impressive combinations standing up.

On the ground he kept busy and absolutely mauled Silva throughout that fight.


Definitely was not just laying and praying dude. Sonnen fought his heart out. One of the most impressive performances in MMA history albeit one of the most tainted.


Sonnen thoroughly dominated that fight and if not for getting reckless at the end he would've walked away with a unanimous decision victory.



If DC vs Jones is anything remotely reminiscent of Sonnen vs Silva I we'll be in for a treat. Easily one of the greatest fights and endings in the history of the sport.

 

[HEATHEN]

Rashad was just insecure about the whole situation. Dana gave Jones a title shot because Evans got injured. Nobody forced Evans to feel betrayed by that. What, you expected Jones to decline the fight? This is why you don't train with a guy in your weight class if you aren't willing to fight him. DC told Gus they couldn't train, and DC moved to a different weight class to not fight Cain. That's how you handle it. Blaming Dana is silly

Word, and Evans has long been stubborn about dropping to 185.



Though he'd probably dominate the division save for Weidman....Would be a toss up.

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

I think Jones has faced a number of very good wrestlers-- Evans, Bader and Sonnen, hell even Jake O'Brien. Am I taking much from those matches in his fight with DC? Not really

I will absolutely not discredit Jones' resume in any way. Rampage and Rua may have been on their way down but what about Evans, Machida, Vitor, Gus and Glover? I think Gus definitely pushed Jones to the absolute limit, but I scored Jones 3 rounds

Honestly, what stands out to me the most is the fact that DC trains every day with Cain. From all the stories over the years, it seems like DC has pretty much taken it to Cain.. I mean that's pretty impressive in my mind

Edit: Actually forgot DC fought Barnett 5 rounds. Damb. I guess you could say DC has never fought 5 rounds at his new weight..

I still don't have a feeling either way, don't think I will. Just hope for a great fight

 

[nelson999]

 

****** pumped for this fight, just hoping it doesn't end up a fight where DC lays on Jones the entire fight kind of like Sonnen vs Silva

Sonnen vs Silva I?

What fight were you watching? Because I saw Sonnen land some impressive combinations standing up.

On the ground he kept busy and absolutely mauled Silva throughout that fight.


Definitely was not just laying and praying dude. Sonnen fought his heart out. One of the most impressive performances in MMA history albeit one of the most tainted.


Sonnen thoroughly dominated that fight and if not for getting reckless at the end he would've walked away with a unanimous decision victory.



If DC vs Jones is anything remotely reminiscent of Sonnen vs Silva I we'll be in for a treat. Easily one of the greatest fights and endings in the history of the sport.

let me guess.  You either:
A) Love Chael Sonnen

B) ******* hate Anderson Silva and threw a party when he lost his belt

C) Both

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

 
let me guess.  You either:
A) Love Chael Sonnen

B) ******* hate Anderson Silva and threw a party when he lost his belt

C) Both

I agree with his analysis of that match and I don't fall under either of those choices 

Chael rocked Silva standing a number of times because Silva was so concerned with Chael's takedowns

Like he said though, it was a tainted match anyway, with Chael on the TRT

 

[HEATHEN]

let me guess.  You either:

A) Love Chael Sonnen
B) ******* hate Anderson Silva and threw a party when he lost his belt
C) Both

D. None of the above.

My analysis was objective. Did you not see the first fight? Are you seriously going to insinuate that Sonnen was not thoroughly dominant until the end?

And did you not notice that I stated the ending was one of the greatest in MMA history? Obviously a tipping of my proverbial hat to Silva?

Its funny how you call me a hater when you sir are in fact a biased **** rider.

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

Fight hasn't sold out 

 I'm a little surprised despite it being the holiday season.. seems like a card people would definitely buy a ticket to

DC talkin crazy though?

"I think this fight will do 750[,000 buys], that's where I place the line," White said. "Everyone thinks the pay-per-view thing is dead," White said. "Pay-per-view isn't dead. We just had a bad year."

The way Cormier sees it, the business success or failure of UFC 182 will be more of a reflection of the state of the industry than of his fight with Jones in and of itself.

"If this fight doesn't sell out, if this fight doesn't do pay-per-view numbers, than it will show where we are compared to before," Cormier said. "Four, five years ago, this fight probably does a complete sellout, 900 [thousand] to a million buys, but that's not where we are today. Does it mean that things are bad? No. Times have changed, as times have changed in the world. It's not just in mixed martial arts. It's in everything."

I think Dana lying his *** off in regards to Team Alpha Male 

However, White is also keeping the door open to a bout between Dillashaw and Team Alpha Male founder and teammate Urijah Faber. The former WEC featherweight champion has won five out of his past six bouts after a controversial finish of Francisco Rivera at UFC 181.

"They're definitely open to it," White said. "When you have a team full of guys that are in the same weight, you're eventually going to have to fight each other, and they're all cool with that."

 

[HEATHEN]

I think Jones has faced a number of very good wrestlers-- Evans, Bader and Sonnen, hell even Jake O'Brien. Am I taking much from those matches in his fight with DC? Not really

I will absolutely not discredit Jones' resume in any way. Rampage and Rua may have been on their way down but what about Evans, Machida, Vitor, Gus and Glover? I think Gus definitely pushed Jones to the absolute limit, but I scored Jones 3 rounds

Honestly, what stands out to me the most is the fact that DC trains every day with Cain. From all the stories over the years, it seems like DC has pretty much taken it to Cain.. I mean that's pretty impressive in my mind

Edit: Actually forgot DC fought Barnett 5 rounds. Damb. I guess you could say DC has never fought 5 rounds at his new weight..

I still don't have a feeling either way, don't think I will. Just hope for a great fight

I too scored for Jones 3 rounds to 2 against Gus, and in my mind thar performance was by far Jones' best. He showed a lot of heart in a fight he did not look comfortable at all being in.


As for Glover, guy fought a lot of fluff before coming to the UFC. He has some impressive power and some real nice innate abilities but I feel like he fought Jones before he was ready.

And as for his wins over Vitor and Machida, I take nothing away. Its just that when it comes to the wrestlers he's fought none of them really have the ability Cormier has.

Save maybe Chael but we all know Chael wanted nothing to do with Jones once that fight started.

Suga was an All-American at Michigan but it really hasn't translated into him being a supremely dominant wrestler in MMA. Ditto Bader.


Only guy who has ever really out wrestled Cormier was freaking Cael Sanderson. I just feel that this is one fight that I cannot see Jones beating his opponent with his own medicine.

That leaves Jones having to win off his back and I'm not convinced that he will be able to do that against Cormier.

I don't mean to discredit Jones in anyway despite how I feel about him as an individual. I just don't think he's fought a guy who he can't beat at his own game thus far and Cormier is a guy who can actually implement a game plan and follow through.

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

I feel you bro, yeah I agree with a lot of what you said there

I said it before, but if Jones can get by DC and Gus again, AND Rumble? IMO he will be the GOAT, not to mention if he then moves up to HW and has success 

DC offers such a damn good test

 

[nelson999]

D. None of the above.

My analysis was objective. Did you not see the first fight? Are you seriously going to insinuate that Sonnen was not thoroughly dominant until the end?

And did you not notice that I stated the ending was one of the greatest in MMA history? Obviously a tipping of my proverbial hat to Silva?

Its funny how you call me a hater when you sir are in fact a biased **** rider.

i was going to agree with you until the lame *** last sentence.  Who exactly am i riding here?  All i said was i don't wanna see another fight like that where it's mainly one dude laying on another.

i want to see a competitive and exciting fight that lives up to the hype. not a ******* wrestling match.  Who i am being biased for and whose **** am i riding with that statement sir?

 

[HEATHEN]

I feel you bro, yeah I agree with a lot of what you said there

I said it before, but if Jones can get by DC and Gus again, AND Rumble? IMO he will be the GOAT, not to mention if he then moves up to HW and has success 

DC offers such a damn good test

Oh yeah, he gets past those 3 he legitimately takes the GOAT crown.

Though I honestly believe HW would be a bad career decision. His biggest advantage at 205 is just being flat out bigger and rangier than every opponent he has faced.

That advantage (size wise at least because his reach would still be greater than most HWs) would be effectively nullified.

Cain, JDS, Overeem, Werdum and perhaps even the likes of Josh Barnett and Browne would all be extremely difficult fights for Jones.

His record would surely be blemished. Though I wouldn't take anything away from him for taking that plunge.

 

[HEATHEN]

i was going to agree with you until the lame *** last sentence.  Who exactly am i riding here?  All i said was i don't wanna see another fight like that where it's mainly one dude laying on another.

i want to see a competitive and exciting fight that lives up to the hype. not a ******* wrestling match.  Who i am being biased for and whose **** am i riding with that statement sir?

Simply by implying that I am somehow a Sonnen fan or a Silva hater or some combination of both as a rebuttal tells me that you yourself hold some bias against Sonnen.

Because nobody except the irrational Silva fanatics could have watched that fight and came away feeling like Sonnen was laying and praying the whole time or that it was some sort of glorified wrestling match.

That fight was far from boring. Again I don't know what fight you saw but clearly it wasn't the same one I did. It was a damned good fight from beginning to end. Wrestling is a part of MMA, Cormier isn't going to go in there trying to fight a stand up war against Jones.

Thar doesn't mean that the fight will be uncompetitive. Again if we get anything close to Sonnen Silva I in Cormier vs Jones I (as well as you) should be thrilled.

 

[nelson999]

i 100% agree Sonnen dominated that fight against Silva.

i don't want to see a fight on Saturday where Jones/DC spend 90% of the fight on the ground. plain and simple.

I'm not sure who you are to tell me what i should or should not personally be "thrilled" to see

 

[HEATHEN]

i 100% agree Sonnen dominated that fight against Silva.

i don't want to see a fight on Saturday where Jones/DC spend 90% of the fight on the ground. plain and simple.

I'm not sure who you are to tell me what i should or should not personally be "thrilled" to see

Im not telling you a thing bro except that your original sentiment implying that Silva Sonnen I was five rounds of lay and pray like we were watching a Askren or a Fitch fight is just flat out wrong.

Or the idea that the fight was boring, also wrong.

I don't know what you want to see from Cormier but whatever.

Sorry if you feel that I called you out your name but your multiple choice question pigeonholing me as some sort of biased Sonnen fan or Silva hater or both was just an inane rebuttal on your part.

 

[smedroc]

"You suck"



I'm loving this.


Weigh in staredowns i think Jon will be subdued just to mix things up

 

[gunna get it]

Did Evans/Jones sell out?

 

[spiderjericho]

That fight didn't have the build up like this one did or the pedigree. I don't see it selling one million buys. UFC has to thank their globalization/over saturation.

 

[fraij da 5 11]

Cant wait. 

I hope its a good fight for a round or 2 but Jones should finish DC.

 

[gunna get it]

I think it would be hard for an all non-Brazilian black main event o be a sell out at the gate. Especially without both coaching a season of tuff