The MMA Thread: DON'T ASK 4 STREAMS & NO GIFS- UFC 300 ON NOW

[spizike231]

you'll spend the first few weeks just getting in shape so you can train, and then you'll spend the following weeks being frustrated from a combo of getting tapped out by girls and not being able incorporate anything you guys drilled in class in rolling.   

Muay Thai version: you'll spend the first few weeks getting in shape, your legs will hurt like helll, and then you'll spend the following weeks wondering why you can't head kick and being told to keep your hands up.

 

[black59razor]

Muay Thai version: you'll spend the first few weeks getting in shape, your legs will hurt like helll, and then you'll spend the following weeks wondering why you can't head kick and being told to keep your hands up.

dont forget: you'll check a kick for the first time with your virgin shins and drop to the ground like a little ***** writhing in pain lol 

 

 

[spizike231]

dont forget: you'll check a kick for the first time with your virgin shins and drop to the ground like a little ***** writhing in pain lol   

Being afraid of The Clinch when sparring for about a month until you can get your feet wet in the Art of Clinching (an entire other martial art within Muay Thai )

 

[shogun]

And if conor goes up and don't fight Frankie, we all know why, hell Frankie should move back up and whoop him at 55

That would be great if Frankie follows him to 155 and says they'll have a contender fight for the lightweight title.

 

[HEATHEN]

That would be great if Frankie follows him to 155 and says they'll have a contender fight for the lightweight title.

If Conor goes up to 155 it would be for an immediate title shot as Dana promised.


He need to go 'head and take the L headed his way from Frankie.

 

[g money 87]

I provided a link that outlined the definition of octagon control and it fell right in line with what I was talking about when I spoke about dictating pace, where the fight is taking place, who is implementing their style/game-plan and who is forcing their opponent to follow suit.


You're the one being delusional or at the very least being stubborn. You quoted me stating an OPINION and got all bent out shape. And to top it all off you threw out the term octagon control without really understanding what it meant and the factors that go into it.


The very factors I was talking about from the outset of my argument.



If you can't be a gracious loser in a debate then just stop quoting me son. You were proven wrong at every turn. Deal with it.


You're welcome to outline where I was wrong. You won't because well, you can't.

Lol I'm good, read my previous post...ttalking bout I'm bent outta shape when u writing paragraphs that don't prove anything.

If a fighter implements their gameplan that means their winning that aspect of the criteria??? Funny we've seen guys do that but lose cuz it was the wrong gameplan

I guess judges didn't base the cerrone hendo decision off ur criteria...

 

[HEATHEN]

Lol I'm good, read my previous post...ttalking bout I'm bent outta shape when u writing paragraphs that don't prove anything.

If a fighter implements their gameplan that means their winning that aspect of the criteria implements their gameplan that means their winning that aspect of the criteria??? Funny we've seen guys do that but lose cuz it was the wrong gameplan

I guess judges didn't base the cerrone hendo decision off ur criteria...

No, if a fighter implements their game-plan effectively, and in turn forces their opponent to fight at their pace, at their range and where they want the fight to take place THEN they're winning that aspect of the criteria.


I've stated that numerous times. Reading, it's fundamental. In fact it's the entire crux of my argument as to why Bendo won.



And it's Bendo, not Hendo. Hendo = Dan Henderson. Bendo = Benson Henderson.



The judges were wrong. My criteria and the judges criteria are one in the same, everything I've stated goes into the whole "octagon control" aspect of judging a fight. Something you sorely can't comprehend.




It's pretty sad when folks can't admit they're wrong. They'll resort to trying to misrepresent or reframe your argument but will end up outing themselves in the long-run arguing semantics on terms they themselves don't comprehend.


Please, go take some time to understand what exactly octagon control is and then get back to me, k? Okay.

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[g money 87]

Haha u know damn well I know it's bendo, my phone auto corrected...so resort to using grammar mistakes to make ur argument "stronger"

And we've seen plenty fighters use their gameplan effectively and still lose decisions...Judges ain't looking at nobody's gameplans...clay Guida lost to Maynard did he not stock to his gameplan and get Maynard fighting his fight? Yet gray won cuz the judges could see the obvious

I'm good tho, don't need to research any of that I know it and so far off ur argument ur 0-1 against the judges so I'll stick with what they are supposed to judge off, instead of ur idea

 

[boxer15]

Y'all are actually Bendo fans?

ZZZ

 

[af1 1982]

All this bickering is making this thread unbearable atm

 

[g money 87]

Y'all are actually Bendo fans?

ZZZ

I was in the wec but seems like he went the gsp route once he got to the title in the ufc...but he's a solid top 5-7 guy, prob won't sniff a title in the ufc again

And Yea I'm done arguing with dude

I think overeem made a mistake not signing, he's gon hit the deck sat night. Jds need to get that title shot esp if werdum wins

 

[HEATHEN]

Haha u know damn well I know it's bendo, my phone auto corrected...so resort to using grammar mistakes to make ur argument "stronger"

And we've seen plenty fighters use their gameplan effectively and still lose decisions...Judges ain't looking at nobody's gameplans...clay Guida lost to Maynard did he not stock to his gameplan and get Maynard fighting his fight? Yet gray won cuz the judges could see the obvious

I'm good tho, don't need to research any of that I know it and so far off ur argument ur 0-1 against the judges so I'll stick with what they are supposed to judge off, instead of ur idea

But Guida didn't implement his gameplan effectively. He didn't score a single takedown and got out struck. Maynard also landed more significant strikes. So tell me, how TF did Guida implment his gameplan effectively?



I can agree that sure, fighters can still lose in bad decisions even if they implemented their game-plan and fought their fight but you're DEAD wrong when you claim that judges don't look at how a fighter executes his style and dictates positioning, pace and range. That all goes into octagon control.



Again, you can try to misrepresent my argument, reframe it to make it seem like I'm going off my own obscure judging criteria, you can argue semantics, whatever. It doesn't change the fact that you throw around terms like "octagon control" and "effective aggression" and have no clue what they actually mean. If you did, you'd be able to understand the context of my argument and how terms I use fall under the umbrella term "octagon control".

 

[HEATHEN]

Y'all are actually Bendo fans?

ZZZ

Nope. Not me. Always been an Edgar fan.


Partial to Showtime Pettis.



Though I'm actually considering joining MMA Lab in Glendale (Bendo's gym).

 

[HEATHEN]

In other news, Fedor Emelianenko is going to be fighting a 1-0 fighter named Jaideep Singh.







I know UFC contracts are some BS but damn, dude clearly doesn't give a AF about his legacy at this point fighting scrubs (okay scrub is a lil harsh, Singh is the '09 K-1 GP Champion and an accomplished kickboxer).



Even if he is making guap fighting for small-time promos.

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

Watching Nate Diaz talk to the press... he said his card is better than any card last weekend 

 he's always good for some anxiety type random comments

"Last week was blown out of proportion"

"Conor been saying the same **** I been saying the past 5 years. He say it they push it, I say it they hide it. He's doing a good job [of duplicating my blue print]"

"I'm not gonna diss the UFC they do a great job, but where's our push" 

"If he wants a real fight, a real money fight I'm right here"

"They gave me a list of guys at 170, I never heard of any of em. Micheal Johnson is ranked #5 so I took it"

Dude goes from serious, to angry to bitter, to delusional, to playful to the "I'm just playin" attitude 

 

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

Gonna feel real bad if Cowboy gets washed in front of his dying granny, who he promised her a win before she passes

Dude straight lying through his teeth saying he's "never done anything" in regards to illegal substances 

I'm ashamed at Ariel for not having the balls to say "well actually, you tested positive in your first fight in the WEC"

 

 

[OTG]

am i the only one who's iffy on mcgregor being thrown into the mix at 155 immediately? let the dude stick around at fw/defend a few times first then let him move up next year.. ufc gon be looking goofy if they rush conor into an asswhooping at a bigger weightclass after just winning the title.

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

 
am i the only one who's iffy on mcgregor being thrown into the mix at 155 immediately? let the dude stick around at fw/defend a few times first then let him move up next year.. ufc gon be looking goofy if they rush conor into an asswhooping at a bigger weightclass after just winning the title.

Iffy and McGregor are always used in the same sentence bro 

 been that way since the beginning

He can probably hang with Cowboy, Pettis, Eddie, etc. but anyone who likes to use their wrestling (RDA, Khabib, Bendo) would sap him

Ferguson, Pettis, Cowboy, Barboza or Nate vs Conor would be pretty damn awesome though. And we still need to see the Duffy rematch

There are still guys like Frankie and Chad who are just as dangerous at 145. Either way from here on out we should be getting great match ups

 

[HEATHEN]

am i the only one who's iffy on mcgregor being thrown into the mix at 155 immediately? let the dude stick around at fw/defend a few times first then let him move up next year.. ufc gon be looking goofy if they rush conor into an asswhooping at a bigger weightclass after just winning the title.

UFC lookin' goofy?

Would be the stat quo .

 

[g money 87]

Gonna feel real bad if Cowboy gets washed in front of his dying granny, who he promised her a win before she passes

Dude straight lying through his teeth saying he's "never done anything" in regards to illegal substances 

I'm ashamed at Ariel for not having the balls to say "well actually, you tested positive in your first fight in the WEC"


 

Dying granny cmon bro that's rude lol

Also did he test pos for roids or was it just a banned sub, like used for weight cutting or pain relief?

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

Dying granny cmon bro that's rude lol

Also did he test pos for roids or was it just a banned sub, like used for weight cutting or pain relief?

No bro, she is really about to pass. I didn't eem mean any disrespect. They told her story on The Road to the Octagon

He tested positive for this

Hydrochlorothiazide (abbreviated HCTZ, HCT, or HZT), is a diuretic medication often used to treat high blood pressure andswelling due to fluid build up.[2]

 

[OTG]

Dying granny cmon bro that's rude lol

Also did he test pos for roids or was it just a banned sub, like used for weight cutting or pain relief?

diuretic for weight cutting.

 

[HEATHEN]

Cerrone in his own deluded head, probably thinks that because his use of hydrochlorothiazide would probably have far more negative health consequences to him, that he didn't use a "PED".



It was a banned substance plain and simple. Doesn't matter if he ran the risk of dehydrating and weakening himself prior to his WEC 30 bout with Kenneth Alexander.



He also received a 'whereabouts failure' from USADA for failing to be at his house for a random test.



Son is in no position to talk **** about RDA.



.....And he lost to Bendo 3 times.

 

[g money 87]

yea but ppl imply that cerrone used roids...he did use a banned substance to help with the weight cut. bad but not some **** that gives u superhero powers like vitor lol

 

[jaysfiend23]

I might be in the minority here but I want cowboy to win always been a fan.

Would love Connor to move up and have him and cowboy do a tuf season.