Originally Posted by illphillip
FW is "loaded"? OK.
That's why the FORMER LW champ can drop down and get an immediate shot. And Aldo is fighting the same guy he fought 3 fights ago
FW NOT being loaded is the only reason Cub is even in line for a shot.
Like I said, Travis Browne fought Gonzaga, Barnett, Werdum and Overeem and still never got a shot.
Edgar fought 2 former champs, fresh off title fights, before he got a title shot.
Losing to Bendo and Aldo in close fights after being a champion isn't "championship caliber".
Fighting 9 of your last 11 fights against guys who've held belts.
I have no choice but to point to his LW days. He's only had 3 fights at FW. This amazing streak of Swanson's that you love to harp on.....does it cover more than 3 fights? So what's the problem?
Compared to a guy who lost in 8 seconds to the one champion he's fought in his career. The same guy Frankie fought to a decision.
His very impressive "streak" against zero championship caliber or even Top 5 fighters.
You got it son
FW is definitely loaded. A lot can change in a year and a half for a division. When Frankie dropped down to FW, the division was in dire need of a shot in the arm, no doubt about it. Fast forward today and I have LW and WW as the top divisions along with FW. All three are loaded IMO.
There is no "problem" with Frankie at all, other than I believe that Cub has done more to be ranked ahead of him. That was the original point. Frankie is my #4. My problem is that you keep inventing new ways to create side arguments that are completely irrelevant or fictional. For instance, you saying I'm brainwashed and now you're saying that I've claimed Cub's streak is "amazing" which I've never stated. That's the problem. Again, you make yourself look silly.
Cub may not have taken out a top 5 guy, but Dustin is #6 and climbing and is poised to get a title shot in the near future. Stephens and Siver were both recently top 10. Again, you're silly for throwing shade on Cub's streak. You've been doing this since the very first post on the discussion. You've done nothing but try to belittle
In the end this streak you're not impressed with has Cub ranked higher than Frankie in many people's eyes, not just mine. I respect anyone's opinion, including yours, vouching for Frankie to be ranked higher than Cub. I honestly do.
The problem comes when you try to make Cub's streak look ho-hum. The problem comes when you try to ride a high horse saying things like "well, you're the first person I've heard make this argument," therefore it must not be valid, when plenty of other folks see it the same way. The problem comes when you then backpedal seeing how incorrect you were and say "oh, well, I have a brain of my own I don't need other opinions to validate mine" not recognizing that the previous line or argument you just attempted to use goes against the latter. I was using my own brain too when I said I have Cub ahead