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Here's the problem though with wanting other orgs to "capitalize on this", you get stars getting spread out again. I don't like that. I want everyone under the same umbrella and that's where I'm sure a lot of us differ. I'm sure there are a number of folks who see the UFC as a monopoly or something similar to that. I don't care whether it's the UFC, Bellator or whatever, I want all the best fighters under one roof.

 

I personally don't jive with the Gilbert situation.


 

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"I can't be too specific," said Rebney. "But it includes on-air opportunities, entertainment opportunities behind-the-scenes, some marketing opportunities, really, the whole genesis is Gil-specific. The key to the deal is building the Gilbert Melendez brand, not the Bellator brand or the Bjorn Rebney brand. The fighter's brand is what's important. The focus was on talking to Gil and his team. How do we leverage all the different resources to build the `El Nino' brand, and that's what got us all on the same side of the table to put this structure together."

 

I'm all for fighters wanting to be compensated fairly, don't get me wrong. If Dana wasn't offering market value, then by all means, Gil go get your $$$

 

However if you're just trying to stronghold an org, then I can't really support that. To me, that's what the Gilbert situation is, not that Dana was just being an idiot at the negotiating table. I'm still waiting on details though.

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With everything going on with UFC, does anyone see MMA fighters going the way of boxers or the way of Mayweather? As in fighters just start marketing themselves, promoting their own fights, and hold their own ppvs without being under the UFC umbrella. That way they can have whatever sponsors they want, fight when they want, and make more money. 

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That would be terrible in my opinion. The sport would most likely get corrupt and fights that we would want to see would be even more difficult to make. The whole Fedor/M-1 thing was pretty crazy, I wouldn't want MMA to turn into that. Plus, the UFC would never let that happen and co-promote. The whole reason we never saw Fedor in the UFC

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I don't want it to happen, just meant do you think it could realistically happen?

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Realistically, I don't think it could ever happen under the UFC brand. Dana and company have way too much pride and too much invested to see a model like that become reality. How MMA has evolved to this point, it would be difficult to picture that scenario play out, although when it comes to the fight business anything can happen.

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Originally Posted by Vincent Van Ho View Post

Here's the problem though with wanting other orgs to "capitalize on this", you get stars getting spread out again. I don't like that. I want everyone under the same umbrella and that's where I'm sure a lot of us differ. I'm sure there are a number of folks who see the UFC as a monopoly or something similar to that. I don't care whether it's the UFC, Bellator or whatever, I want all the best fighters under one roof.

Well, if the fighters will stay in one roof, then we are stuck with seeing ufc events every week with fighters many don't know about. On the other hand, if fighters spread to other organizations then we might see what boxing politics is doing now. Fighter A thinks he is p4p the best and fighter B thinks he is p4p the best but can't prove it because they belong to rival promotions. That would be bad for mma which I think is still growing. And I would rather see fights every week than not see fights at all.

Bottom line is, dana stop being a douche, fighters are not your puppets, treat them and pay them better.
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There's needs to be a union to protect the fighters financially and post career. Are these guys getting residuals with the ufc app? That THQ video game deal, I heard was garbage. Unlike the wrestlers, I don't any of them made any real $$. I wonder what happens in 10 years when these guys show signs of brain damage, trauma, and depression. That's going to be the downfall of the ufc and mma, When stories of these guys post fighting career start to develop like Chris leben . I saw him at the mall in the summer post July ufc and he looked broken and depressed. I just felt bad for him and sadly he might be one that might not make it.
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Regarding a union, could the fighters even form one? Since technically they are independent contractors and are viewed as self employed.

 

The THQ deal was garbage for the fighters. Hopefully they got a better deal with EA but thats doubtful. I'm sure they had to sign another lifetime agreement allowing EA to use their image and likeliness in UFC games. 

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Did you guys see cormier at the weigh-in? He looked like he didn't move to a lighter weight class.

Sara mcmann though. 2nd time I felt a little scared when I looked at a woman hahaha.
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I thought Cormier looked pretty different. His face for one. It'll be interesting to see how much he inflates by tomorrow night.

 

McMann is just huge. Still shorter but she's stout. It'll be fun to finally see a woman as big as Rousey (for the most part) and I doubt Rousey will be able to ragdoll McMann.

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Please, Sara get the win.

On a side note, the ufc really is rousey obsessed and say ridiculous things like she does.
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I'll just leave this here.

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It's nuts to me how big she gets on fight night.

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I'd smash Rousey but probably have a panic attack everytime she grabbed my arm
post #1427 of 41107
McMann isn't going to last as long as Tate did at 169.

DC wins however he wants. Doesn't seem like the cut to 205 was that big of an issue. Would like to see him get a TKO.
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If Cormier decisions Cummins the naysayers will be out in full force. DC really is in a no-win situation but I applaud his determination to stay on the card to test his weight cut

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If Cormier decisions Cummins the naysayers will be out in full force. DC really is in a no-win situation but I applaud his determination to stay on the card to test his weight cut

For sure. You would think DC knows he needs to smash this kid to get in talks for that title shot he so desperately wants.
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If Manuwa somehow beats Alex, do you think he could get the next title shot??

Or would DC get it with a win over a unranked oppenent??
post #1431 of 41107
So glad I'm not home so I won't even be tempted to buy this card.
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I don't know why but not excited for the ppv tonight at all. The only fight I really wanted to watch was Rory vs Maia to see if the old Rory came back. But I'm expecting a jab fest. Maia is gonna try to take him down but Rory is just gonna jab and keep moving. Hopefully I'm wrong.

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I don't know why but not excited for the ppv tonight at all. The only fight I really wanted to watch was Rory vs Maia to see if the old Rory came back. But I'm expecting a jab fest. Maia is gonna try to take him down but Rory is just gonna jab and keep moving. Hopefully I'm wrong.

Same. Not amped for this one at all. Don't really know why, either. Will likely have it on in the background as I'm doing work tonight.
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"Joe Rogan, you crazy...." -Tyrone Biggums

I probably would have bought the card if Cormier/Rashad was a go.
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If Manuwa somehow beats Alex, do you think he could get the next title shot??

Or would DC get it with a win over a unranked oppenent??

DC will probably get it.
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Joe Rogan is that dude. Prolly high as **** too
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