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Why would Cain want to get ripped? It did wonders for JDS laugh.gif?
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Exactly. Why in the world would Cain go down in weight. That makes no sense. Cain can wait for Jones when the time is right. Cain walks around at 250+ anyway. Not going to be easy to all of a sudden go down and expect to compete with the likes of Jones


exactly.
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Bones is one different dude. Just check the post conference lol. Especially when he said Phil Davis was off pouting somewhere and high fived Anthony Johnson. Such an odd individual

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Originally Posted by Vincent Van Ho View Post

Bones is one different dude. Just check the post conference lol. Especially when he said Phil Davis was off pouting somewhere and high fived Anthony Johnson. Such an odd individual


Just finished watching the post-fight presser.


Um.....


Yeah man laugh.gif....


"Bones" is weird as ****. Just gives a weird vibe. His interaction with "Rumble", his Ali commentary, his unwillingness to talk about who he wants to fight.


I get it man, you want to live in the moment. You don't want to talk about Gus, you don't wanna talk about "Rumble" but man WTH are you talking about bro?
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Helwani was the second reporter to ask about Gus and quickly backed off once Jones stiffly rebuffed him.

My view:



Rockhold showed media his broken toe right away walking out of the Octagon. Funny moment sharing potato chips with Jones in the presser.

Glover straight to hospital for cut, left rib, right shoulder.
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Got there late missing Ronda and Chuck. But did hang post-fight with Shad and Faber. Also met Ray Rice and Jacoby Jones.
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Got there late missing Ronda and Chuck. But did hang post-fight with Shad and Faber. Also met Ray Rice and Jacoby Jones.

laugh.gif Ray Rice.
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Helwani was the second reporter to ask about Gus and quickly backed off once Jones stiffly rebuffed him.

My view:



Rockhold showed media his broken toe right away walking out of the Octagon. Funny moment sharing potato chips with Jones in the presser.

Glover straight to hospital for cut, left rib, right shoulder.


smokin.gif Dope view. laugh.gif Bones declined the chip at first and then said "aw hey **** it". Meanwhile Rockhold is going to town while "Bones" is fielding questions.


laugh.gif Impressive *** victory by Rockhold, I wanna see him against a TRT-less Vitor.
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Your LHW Champ.

Brasilian dude in hoodie was crying tears deeper than the missing Malaysian plane when Glover lost.
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Your LHW Champ.

Brasilian dude in hoodie was crying tears deeper than the missing Malaysian plane when Glover lost.


Ah the Brazilian fight fans should be proud of their boy. Glover fought valiantly. Was gracious in defeat. Stand-up feller right there.
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SH: Rockhold wants Vitor badly in Vegas. Essentially called first fight a fluke. Said he already beat Jacare and only wants Belfort or to shut up Bisping for good.

Dana says Anderson will fight at end of the year.

Miller and Khabib or Cerrone imminent.
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SH: Rockhold wants Vitor badly in Vegas. Essentially called first fight a fluke. Said he already beat Jacare and only wants Belfort or to shut up Bisping for good.

Dana says Anderson will fight at end of the year.

Miller and Khabib or Cerrone imminent.


IDK if I like that Khabib fight for Miller. Khabib is on a 6 fight win streak in the UFC, I know he's only 25 but he's got 22 fights under his belt and I think he's ready for Pettis.


I don't see the upside for Khabib fighting Jim Miller. I like the Cerrone fight for Miller a ton more.
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This dude "Cowboy" begged Dana to be a late replacement for Ellenberger. White said, "Cerrone is a man that needs to be saved from himself."

Nobody wants Khabib, like Gil and Nate previously, but Miller says he loves the fight. "I can grapple, strike, and wrestle with him."
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This dude "Cowboy" begged Dana to be a late replacement for Ellenberger. White said, "Cerrone is a man that needs to be saved from himself."

Nobody wants Khabib, like Gil and Nate previously, but Miller says he loves the fight. "I can grapple, strike, and wrestle with him."


And he undoubtedly can. No denying that, but whats the upside for Khabib?


If they do that fight, Khabib better get the next shot at Pettis.


I'd honestly rather see Khabib fight TJ Grant once Grant is fully healthy, heard he's almost there.
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I'm not on board with Khabib yet in terms of being a fan. His style is not very pleasing, if people thought Bendo was getting bad then what will they think of Khabib. I respect both of those fighters for sure though.

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Bones gonna Bones...

Guy was just flowing last night. Clinch work was savage mean.gif Plus all the funky ****... I loved when Glover was trying to get the underhook with his back to the cage and Jon was locking up his arm and elevating it trying to hyper extend his elbow. The way he utilises leverage is pretty amazing.

I don't see who is going to beat him at 205 now.

Now he's proved he can eat bombs there are no more questions to be asked.



It was a great card on the whole. Some wild finishes. Anybody see the flying knee on the prelims??? sick.gifmean.gif
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rumble shut that clown down.

 

bones showed out.

 

rockhold was excellent.

 

ufc 172 was a nice show.

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Missed the flying knee. Any gifs?
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Missed the flying knee. Any gifs?


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Daaaaamn
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Beal won KOTN, Gomi and IVF for FOTN, and "Joeaconstrictor" for SOTN.
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Once jones beats Gus again and then Cormier, hopefully he just starts eating and goes to hw.

Then he can go at Cain

Bones at 230- 235 would be terrifying

laugh.gif at the thought of Bones vs. Cain. I dont see anyway that would ever go well for Jones. He should just stay his *** at 205
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It goes both ways, depending on who can impose their gameplan better. If Jones can keep Cain at a distance then Bones has higher chances of winning. However if Cain can get inside and start mauling Jones then we have a better fight.
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The pace that Cain keeps and his pressure game is just straight up ungodly, I don't know how anyone can deal with it. A prime Fedor in a PRIDE ring, under PRIDE rules might have some success (now THAT would have been a fight I would like to see). IMO, Cain is just unstoppable in the octagon right now...Jones might be able to keep Cain off for a round but not forever. The only flaw I see in his game is his slightly wobbly chin, it would have to take the perfect strike though ala JDS in the first fight.

The fight is still 2 or 3 years away so we'll just have to wait and see. Jones is still improving while I think Cain is already fighting at peak levels.
Edited by DangerousG - 4/28/14 at 1:56am
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If this version of Rumble stays on point, I'd love to see him fight Jones.
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that was rough.

 

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sidebar I'm sure I'm in the minority on this one but I don't think anyone can stop Bones. If he went up to HW I'm convince he could more than compete. I'd even go as far as to say he could be champ. Homes is that good.

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I think DC vs Jones will be a good indicator of how a Cain match might go.

Fast, elite grappling and good hands...

Both fights boil down to who can control the range and I think Jones would beat both guys. Even with their level of grappling it's almost impossible to get inside at their stature.

I think Alex has shown that rangy strikers can give Jones problems. It's going to take a different level of power though. Gustaffson can THROW and even he didn't really rock Jones in their fight. Ideally you need a Overeem type dude. Enough size to negate the usual reach advantage, retarded power, beast clinch work and great TDD.

But he doesn't have a chin so Jones would still probably win laugh.gif
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Originally Posted by Smedroc View Post

Bones gonna Bones...

Guy was just flowing last night. Clinch work was savage mean.gif Plus all the funky ****... I loved when Glover was trying to get the underhook with his back to the cage and Jon was locking up his arm and elevating it trying to hyper extend his elbow. The way he utilises leverage is pretty amazing.

I don't see who is going to beat him at 205 now.

Now he's proved he can eat bombs there are no more questions to be asked.



It was a great card on the whole. Some wild finishes. Anybody see the flying knee on the prelims??? sick.gifmean.gif

Caught the replay before the main card and was thinking why is Chris Bael fighting Sam Cassell then BOOM!

 

Also I was rolling at the slow motion replays of Jones punching Teixeira's mouth guard out. :lol

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sidebar I'm sure I'm in the minority on this one but I don't think anyone can stop Bones. If he went up to HW I'm convince he could more than compete. I'd even go as far as to say he could be champ. Homes is that good.

IDK man, HW is a whole different ballgame.


JDS, Werdum, & Cain would represent greater challenges than he's ever faced in LHW. You've got a guy as big as Cain or JDS who hit harder as hard or harder than anyone he's ever fought at 205 (Jackson & Glover) but whose gas tanks are seemingly limitless.


I just don't see how he'd beat Cain namely. As others have said the guy just doesn't stop working. And he'd easily be the best wrestler Jones has ever faced. Yes Chael has an amazing power double, yes Chael is a fantastic wrestler in his own right but Cain is better. Cain is also a complete fighter. He can change levels better than Chael. He can feint a takedown and go back up for a combo, and you have to respect it all unlike Chael because unlike Chael, Cain can put out your lights with one punch.


I see Jones beating guys like Nelson (who'd still have a punchers chance), Overeem (who'd be a goner the longer the fight went), Hunt (who also has a punchers chance), Browne (who'd also be a goner the longer the fight went), Barnett, Miocic and Bigfoot. But just the sheer size and power of some of those guys mentioned represent a danger just not present at 205. We've seen in the Gus fight that a similarly sized 205 pounder can nullify some of the advantages Jones has over his opponents. Now put Jones in with guys who are just naturally bigger, stronger men, and that size advantage goes out the window.

Granted Jones with a 84.5 inch reach is still going to have a longer reach than pretty much every HW in the UFC, he's going to be dealing with guys who can go toe to toe with his infighting. Jones simply would not be able to dominate a guy like Cain in close quarters like he did Glover. Nor would he be able to stuff takedowns at will.


Jones is as skilled as they come in MMA, but any experienced martial artist will tell you, size matters. It's not everything but it's a huge factor. Could "Bones" thrive in the HW division? Sure, is it a foregone conclusion? Far from it.


One thing for certain, two things for sure, I'd sure love to see him take the step up. Intriguing match-ups await at HW.




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Edited by SneakerHeathen - 4/28/14 at 2:42pm
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I wish there was a Delorean so we could drop the two of them off at a Pride open weight grand prix a few years ago.

We always wonder how a dominant lhw would do if he moved up. When Shogun was a beast we wondered if he could beat Fedor. When machida looked unbeatable people said he could beat Mir. Wand versus Crocop is still one of the most awesome beatdowns i've ever seen.
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