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post #3661 of 41107
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If dana says there's no way the fight goes 5 rounds then it'll go all 5 rounds.

What are the chances they'll both showboat and taunt each other for the majority of the first round? It'd be funny to see.

post #3662 of 41107
Why do I feel like Diaz is going to get washed and then ride off into the sunset, laugh.gif

If that fights in Vegas, I may have to check it out.

Huge fan of both guys.
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post #3663 of 41107
I gotta be in Vegas for the iHeart Festival and thinking of staying out West and trying to hit 178.

Wife will not be pleased.....
post #3664 of 41107
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Why do I feel like Diaz is going to get washed and then ride off into the sunset, laugh.gif

If that fights in Vegas, I may have to check it out.

Huge fan of both guys.

 

If Silva's chin isn't completely gone to hell, I have a hard time seeing him lose to Diaz. Feels like fighters started to figure out Diaz. Just don't stand in front of him and not move like BJ. 

post #3665 of 41107
Nick is going to pepper Anderson to death and I don't expect his chin to hold up. Can't see Anderson KOing Nick either.
post #3666 of 41107
http://www.ufc.com/news/Outside-the-Octagon-Joey-Lauzon-Beats-Cancer

I have a young son and this **** had me all misty eyed.....
post #3667 of 41107
Red what makes you think a undersized, plodding Nick Diaz can put the volume on Anderson??
post #3668 of 41107
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Red what makes you think a undersized, plodding Nick Diaz can put the volume on Anderson??

 

 

Because Anderson can't stop Nick from moving forward(no threat of take down) and Nick has the reach to strike with Anderson from the outside. Nick doesn't need to put Anderson against the cage to land because he knows how box  "at the end of his punches". I don't expect Anderson to be throwing heavy rear round houses either but who knows with that. With the way Anderson's chin has looked lately I wouldn't be surprised to see him hurt from some glancing blows. Plus it's a 5 round fight and that favors Nick who is a cardio machine. If Anderson was about 5 years younger things would be different because lets be real the anderson we've seen in the last 2 fights aint the same anderson silva we saw the last decade and Nick Diaz is a tough mofo who still in his prime. 

 

Haven't even brought up the ground where Nick > Anderson

 

 

With all that said Anderson could come out and implement Condit's run and kick game plan for a snoozefest.


Edited by red80 - 7/30/14 at 1:44pm
post #3669 of 41107
I think anderson will try and kick nick's head into the stands.
post #3670 of 41107
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I think anderson will try and kick nick's head into the stands.

 

that rear leg might snap again on impact on nick's granite dome

post #3671 of 41107
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Because Anderson can't stop Nick from moving forward and Nick has the reach to strike with Anderson from the outside. Nick doesn't need to put Anderson against the cage to land because he knows how box  "at the end of his punches". I don't expect Anderson to be throwing heavy rear round houses either but who knows with that. With the way Anderson's chin has looked lately I wouldn't be surprised to see him hurt from some glancing blows. Plus it's a 5 round fight and that favors Nick who is a cardio machine. If Anderson was about 5 years younger things would be different because lets be real the anderson we've seen in the last 2 fights aint the same anderson silva we saw the last decade and Nick Diaz is a tough mofo who still in his prime. 

Haven't even brought up the ground where Nick > Anderson


With all that said Anderson could come out and implement Condit's run and kick game plan for a snoozefest.

All of this no.
post #3672 of 41107
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All of this no.

 

 

Very insightful response.

 

Lol

 

Like I said I dont predict a TKO or KO, but rather a long, 5 round peppering barrage by nick diaz. If it was a prime Anderson he would destroy Nick, but he's going to be almost 40 when they fight coming off serious injury+long layoff and two losses; one of which he got dropped from a punch he would of eaten with no problem in the past.

 

The taunting should be epic. Nick with his crossarmed, peekaboo taunts and Anderson with his wavy hands, wax on wax off taunts. :rollin 


Edited by red80 - 7/30/14 at 1:49pm
post #3673 of 41107
I don't understand how you can question Anderson's chin when he's only been knocked out once in a decade.

Nick is not faster than Anderson and lacks KO power. There might be some interesting exchanges if Anderson no longer has "matrix" mode tho
post #3674 of 41107
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Because Anderson can't stop Nick from moving forward(no threat of take down) and Nick has the reach to strike with Anderson from the outside. Nick doesn't need to put Anderson against the cage to land because he knows how box  "at the end of his punches". I don't expect Anderson to be throwing heavy rear round houses either but who knows with that. With the way Anderson's chin has looked lately I wouldn't be surprised to see him hurt from some glancing blows. Plus it's a 5 round fight and that favors Nick who is a cardio machine. If Anderson was about 5 years younger things would be different because lets be real the anderson we've seen in the last 2 fights aint the same anderson silva we saw the last decade and Nick Diaz is a tough mofo who still in his prime. 

Haven't even brought up the ground where Nick > Anderson


With all that said Anderson could come out and implement Condit's run and kick game plan for a snoozefest.

I guess that would be the perfect storm for Nick but it doesn't factor in what Anderson is capable of offensively.

We don't know what kind of condition he's going to be in after the lay off but its no so long ago that he was the most devastating finisher in UFC history and also one of the best counter punchers.

Plus Nick will have been off almost 2 years himself come fight time.
post #3675 of 41107
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I think anderson will try and kick nick's head into the stands.

that rear leg might snap again on impact on nick's granite dome

He could try the front kick he did to vitor if he doesn't want to hurt his leg.
post #3676 of 41107
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Because Anderson can't stop Nick from moving forward(no threat of take down) and Nick has the reach to strike with Anderson from the outside. Nick doesn't need to put Anderson against the cage to land because he knows how box  "at the end of his punches". I don't expect Anderson to be throwing heavy rear round houses either but who knows with that. With the way Anderson's chin has looked lately I wouldn't be surprised to see him hurt from some glancing blows. Plus it's a 5 round fight and that favors Nick who is a cardio machine. If Anderson was about 5 years younger things would be different because lets be real the anderson we've seen in the last 2 fights aint the same anderson silva we saw the last decade and Nick Diaz is a tough mofo who still in his prime. 

 

Haven't even brought up the ground where Nick > Anderson

 

 

With all that said Anderson could come out and implement Condit's run and kick game plan for a snoozefest.


I agree with much of this but I also think you're taking away from Chris Weidman's outstanding performances against Anderson. He's just a really bad matchup for Anderson, so it's not really fair IMO to say "let's face it, the Anderson we've seen in the last 2 fights aint the same Anderson Silva we saw the last decade"... Anderson just can't account for Weidman's wrestling, strength and evolving boxing.

 

Nick doesn't have much power behind his punches, so Anderson would really have to be caught multiple times to have his chin tested. I don't see it tbh.

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I agree with much of this but I also think you're taking away from Chris Weidman's outstanding performances against Anderson. He's just a really bad match up for Anderson, so it's not really fair IMO to say "let's face it, the Anderson we've seen in the last 2 fights aint the same Anderson Silva we saw the last decade"... Anderson just can't account for Weidman's wrestling, strength and evolving boxing.

 

Nick doesn't have much power behind his punches, so Anderson would really have to be caught multiple times to have his chin tested. I don't see it tbh.

 

 

My bad. I aint trying to take anything away from the champ! He was kicking Andy's *** again before the leg snapped.

 

 

I was specifically referring to Silva's ability to absorb punches. Between Chael and Weidman he's been dropped more times in those fights than his entire career. Sad to see because Anderson's chin was one of the best in the sport(eating hendo's h-bomb:x). Anderson is at that point in his career where the accumulation of a career's worth of punishment is starting to show and deteriorating his chin. Same way Chuck went out. :{ 


Edited by red80 - 7/30/14 at 5:30pm
post #3678 of 41107
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My bad. I aint trying to take anything away from the champ! He was kicking Andy's *** again before the leg snapped.

 

 

I was specifically referring to Silva's ability to absorb punches. Between Chael and Weidman he's been dropped more times in those fights than his entire career. Anderson is at that point in his career where the accumulation of a career's worth of punishment is starting to show and deteriorating his chin. Same way Chuck went out. :{


Damn, you actually bring up a good point with Chael too, he did catch him.

 

On a different note, I don't think the build up is going to be what we're used to. Diaz will have nothing but respect for Silva so I think it'll be pretty quiet from both sides IMO.

 

Edit: Now listening to the UFC 183 conference call...

post #3679 of 41107

Idk if Silva's chin was ever that great. If you catch him like Weidman or even Sonnen did he'll go down. Maybe not knocked out but he'll go down. What Silva does is he turns away from punches so he takes less of the force. His fight with Bonnar is a perfect example of this.

 

Machida says he wants to fight in October. He wants Rockhold but is leaving it up to ufc to choose his opponent. I actually like this fight. All Rockhold is doing now is talking about Belfort and TRT and how he wants a title shot. He should have to face someone ranked in the top 5. Getting knocked out by Vitor and then beating Botsch and Philippou doesn't warrant a title shot in my opinion.

 

Random, but has anyone ever noticed that whenever there's a UFC event; whether its a ppv, fight night, etc; Spike, FX, or USA almost always shows a Rock movie. Either Walking Tall, Fast Five, or The Rundown. 176 was supposed to be this weekend and of course two Rock movies are showing back to back.

post #3680 of 41107
I see Anderson's front kick being a lethal weapon against Nick's raised arm boxing. Don't have a call on that fight yet, but all I can think of is a repeat of that Vitor KO.
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post #3682 of 41107
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Dude, what the ****?!?!?! God damn!!!!

 

1.) What a fight

2.) That card is already ******* ridiculous

3.) Alvarez to the UFC :hat

post #3683 of 41107

Sonnen's boy FrontRowBrian was talking about this same thing a few days ago. If this goes down, people are gonna have to start giving him credit. He broke the news on 176 getting cancelled, Alvarez possibly fighting at 178, and a few other stories. So I guess ufc is close to signing a deal with Reebok to make their official uniforms since he's been spot on with his sources in the past.


Edited by PhillyzPhan - 7/30/14 at 10:05pm
post #3684 of 41107
Thread Starter 

Uniforms would be really annoying to me, I pray that doesn't happen. So corny

 

Going back to UFC 178, if Cowboy/Alvarez gets added it's easily the greatest card in combat sports history

post #3685 of 41107

Uniforms is just another way for ufc to make money and to seem "legit" like other sports leagues since they all have uniform deals.

 

Nothing is announced or finalized yet except for Belfort v Weidman but 181 looks promising. Pettis v Melendez is scheduled for then too and if the Carano deal is finalized thats the proposed ppv for her fight with Rousey. So you'd have 3 title fights on 1 card.

post #3686 of 41107
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I'd still easily take 178 over 181. Rousey vs. Carano is trash and a huge joke, that's not a title fight, just an exhibition. Weidman v Belfort is legit, will be interesting to see how Vitor reacts to not fighting in Brazil. Obviously Pettis and Gil is as legit as you can get.

 

178 though, got all the makings of UFC 100 on Vitor's best steroids

post #3687 of 41107
How can fighters represent their sponsors if they can't wear the gear or sport the logos on the walkout or in the cage??

What about dudes that come out in the Gi?

If i never saw GSP coming out to some french rap in the Gi and headband i probably don't become a fan of the sport laugh.gif
post #3688 of 41107
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If fighters can't wear their sponsors' stuff then the ufc better act as their sponsors and pay them to wear the ufc logo. I think that's what they do with jones now or did before.

So alvarez's contract is up again? He's their champ so i'm guessing they'll do what they can to keep him there. Wish my dude Chandler didn't sign that new contract, would like to see him in the ufc too.
Edited by shogun - 7/31/14 at 5:36am
post #3689 of 41107
I think Alvarez has 1 more fight on his Bellator contract, which also has to be on PPV. But since Scott Coker is now running things at Bellator, maybe he let Eddie free from the contract.
post #3690 of 41107
The Alvarez/Chandler trilogy doesn't matter anymore.

Son needs to get to the UFC asap before he becomes a distant memory.
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