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god damb jones is a smug trolling bastard. roll.gif

i love it.
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If we want to talk about things getting bad, take a look at the WWE's financials...

On the Jones hate, the dude's ring skills are otherworldly. I know that and respect that. I just hate that he will post like a 10 year old on Instagram then flex for a crowd after he brawls and then show up on ESPN like he has a PR person in his ear.

Pick a side and run with it, the sport will be better for it.
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So many things wrong with this post :lol 

 

If you're not a fan of the sport, which is apparent by this silly post, why would you bother coming in to post here? Keep in mind I am not telling you not to post I'm just wondering



I'm a fan of MMA, not a fan of staging a "brawl" at media day to try to generate hype because the declining TV ratings and Pay-Per-View numbers. Jones has always been a nice guy and all of a sudden he's a "heel". I just can't- :lol

I think it will still be a good fight though, I'm just gonna stay away from the media and the "storylines". 

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:lol Just checkin bro... I mean when's the last time this has happened? DC and Jones saw that midget substitute teacher they had in there for Dana White and decided they were going to act up. I don't think this has anything to do with ratings or the WWE, just two dudes who really don't like each other.

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Fair point.

Chael did similar shenanigans going into his fights and was lauded for the most part.

Unlike Chael, Bones has backed up his bravado in the octagon so far.

The fight with DC should be fun.
Chael is one of my least-liked fighters in MMA history. Fighting style and personality wise. But Sonnen did well to sell himself into title fights he didn't deserve or belong in. Also kudos for taking bouts on short notice, to save cards.
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Well you'd no more about MMA and UFC then I do, I'm not really a fan of this sport but I only watch when it's a really big fight. But I do see the wild and crazy fighters with the big hair, wild tattoos, in your face types that are waaaaay more douche-like then Jones but seem to fly under the radar and be more accepted. I even read his Instagram feed and you'd swear this guy is the worst sports figure ever. laugh.gif

Just my take.
Appreciate your post. Delving in deeper, another issue many MMA fans seem to have with Bones is authenticity. He comes off fraudulent at times, and DC is hammering that point home at the pressers. Jon Jones wants to be well-liked. I believe he tries to do the right thing, almost to a fault. Instead of just being himself and letting some individual personality shine through. Had the fortune of witnessing Jones' apparent growth live leading up, during, and after UFC 172 in Baltimore. Intensely focused, humble, charismatic. Paid proper respect to Glover and Brasilian fight fans. Almost felt like the Gus experience humbled Bones. Maybe it's something about Cormier that brings out the worst in Jon Jones. He's rearing an ugly head again.
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Chael is one of my least-liked fighters in MMA history. Fighting style and personality wise. But Sonnen did well to sell himself into title fights he didn't deserve or belong in. Also kudos for taking bouts on short notice, to save cards.
Appreciate your post. Delving in deeper, another issue many MMA fans seem to have with Bones is authenticity. He comes off fraudulent at times, and DC is hammering that point home at the pressers. Jon Jones wants to be well-liked. I believe he tries to do the right thing, almost to a fault. Instead of just being himself and letting some individual personality shine through. Had the fortune of witnessing Jones' apparent growth live leading up, during, and after UFC 172 in Baltimore. Intensely focused, humble, charismatic. Paid proper respect to Glover and Brasilian fight fans. Almost felt like the Gus experience humbled Bones. Maybe it's something about Cormier that brings out the worst in Jon Jones. He's rearing an ugly head again.

Pretty much agree with everything said here. I'm not surprised Cormier would get under his skin though. Video looks bad though. Jones definitely instigated the first contact and while Cormier pushed him back, which happens allllll the time at these things, Jones threw punches.

Either way, it was stupid.
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I guess the plan was to have a media day in Vegas today and Los Angeles tomorrow. I wonder if they are going to stick to that plan after what happened today :lol

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Chael is one of my least-liked fighters in MMA history. Fighting style and personality wise. But Sonnen did well to sell himself into title fights he didn't deserve or belong in. Also kudos for taking bouts on short notice, to save cards.
Appreciate your post. Delving in deeper, another issue many MMA fans seem to have with Bones is authenticity. He comes off fraudulent at times, and DC is hammering that point home at the pressers. Jon Jones wants to be well-liked. I believe he tries to do the right thing, almost to a fault. Instead of just being himself and letting some individual personality shine through. Had the fortune of witnessing Jones' apparent growth live leading up, during, and after UFC 172 in Baltimore. Intensely focused, humble, charismatic. Paid proper respect to Glover and Brasilian fight fans. Almost felt like the Gus experience humbled Bones. Maybe it's something about Cormier that brings out the worst in Jon Jones. He's rearing an ugly head again.


Champ dropping knowledge as usual. Exactly how I feel about the situation.


And to anyone that thinks that was staged... mean.gif
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Champ dropping knowledge as usual. Exactly how I feel about the situation.


And to anyone that thinks that was staged... mean.gif
Respect, my man. Still headed to Foxwoods for Fight Night 50? Underrated card with Jacare/Mousasi, Reem, Lewis/Mitrione, J-Lau/Chiesa, Oliveira/Lentz, Moraga, Fili, Beal. NT mini-summit.
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That card is solid

 

Conor taking photos right after the brawl with the fans has me :rollin

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Lets keep it #1HUNNA too though.

No race thread, but to a large portion of MMA fans, Jones is the wrong skin color to be acting this way.

Truth.

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Respect, my man. Still headed to Foxwoods for Fight Night 50? Underrated card with Jacare/Mousasi, Reem, Lewis/Mitrione, J-Lau/Chiesa, Oliveira/Lentz, Moraga, Fili, Beal. NT mini-summit.

It is a hell of a card for that dump Foxwoods, laugh.gif

That situation is a damn mess. My buddy that I run my MMA blog with has a wedding that day and couldn't make it, so I didn't cop presale tix. Another friend that cares about the sport trains with Sapo and is convinced he will fall *** backwards into a free ticket.

We'll see, I'm tuned in to the StubHub market.
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You guys really having a mini/summit? I live near Foxwoods, would definitely be down.

Dont know much about MMA but would love to see it live
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It is a hell of a card for that dump Foxwoods, laugh.gif

That situation is a damn mess. My buddy that I run my MMA blog with has a wedding that day and couldn't make it, so I didn't cop presale tix. Another friend that cares about the sport trains with Sapo and is convinced he will fall *** backwards into a free ticket.

We'll see, I'm tuned in to the StubHub market.

 

If you fail to get tix, check out Dana's, UFC's, or even Sholler's twitter. A lot of the time they give away signed memorabilia and tickets if you're in the area. They normally do it the day of or day before the event.

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Thanks for the heads up. I planned on ducking out of work early that Thursday to head to the weigh-ins at least. Have tweeted with Sholler before actually, will have to keep it up.
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KFlo is holding his own in an interview with Bones and DC right now. Throwing them both under the bus for brawling and picking at their arguments. Actual journalism going down on FS1.
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just saw this and was wondering if it was legit or staged laugh.gif

i guess legit. relatively new to MMA and the UFC. can't wait for this one
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KFlo is holding his own in an interview with Bones and DC right now. Throwing them both under the bus for brawling and picking at their arguments. Actual journalism going down on FS1.

Matt Hughes among other notable names were condemning Jones and DC. Very interesting reactions.

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Rumble wasn't too happy about the brawl either...

 

Rumble in UFC today is completely different than the one that was in UFC before. Not just talking about in the ring, but outside of the ring. He sounds more mature. In the comments section he went on to say that if you were a Fortune 500 company would you want your athletes acting that way when they're supposed to be icons/pioneers of the sport/business. 

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I actually appreciate the big names speaking out against DC and Jones, just to keep things balanced

 

There are fights in every sport, there are melees during boxing media tours etc. I'm just glad this is all that happened and that nobody got hurt, especially the fans. It could have been a lot worse. But yeah, brawls are a part of sports, I can't remember the last time this kind of thing happened in the UFC, which is a great thing. So I'm not going to blow things out of proportion

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It is a hell of a card for that dump Foxwoods, laugh.gif

That situation is a damn mess. My buddy that I run my MMA blog with has a wedding that day and couldn't make it, so I didn't cop presale tix. Another friend that cares about the sport trains with Sapo and is convinced he will fall *** backwards into a free ticket.

We'll see, I'm tuned in to the StubHub market.
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You guys really having a mini/summit? I live near Foxwoods, would definitely be down.

Dont know much about MMA but would love to see it live
I'm serious if there's enough interest from other NT'ers. Some UFC, gambling, women, and drinks.
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Rumble wasn't too happy about the brawl either...



Rumble in UFC today is completely different than the one that was in UFC before. Not just talking about in the ring, but outside of the ring. He sounds more mature. In the comments section he went on to say that if you were a Fortune 500 company would you want your athletes acting that way when they're supposed to be icons/pioneers of the sport/business. 
Rumble's maturity level raised through the roof. It's helped his performance in the Octagon, market appeal, and title chances. He credits Dana a lot for straightening him out. Rumble deserves credit for allowing past adversity to be a life lesson that propels him in a positive direction.
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Rumble wasn't too happy about the brawl either...

 

But Jones is sponsored by BOTH Nike & Gatorade :lol

 

jonesgus.jpg

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Sponsoring an individual and a sport are two completely different things though. Gatorade sponsors 1 or 2 guys, Nike has 3 guys, UA has maybe 1 out of 500+ UFC fighters. He meant if you want big time Fortune 500 companies to take UFC and other mma organizations seriously things like that can't happen. Except for maybe Harley Davidson, which is probably low on the Fortune 500 list, you don't see many big companies with their logos on the mat or around the cage. You have big time companies paying millions and billions of $ to be involved with the NFL, NBA, MLB and MLS. Even the WNBA has big time sponsors from Adidas, Nike, Coca Cola, & P&G.

 

What Rumble is saying is that the incident between Jones and DC may get fans interested in the fight but it makes big time companies question whether they want to be associated with UFC or the sport in general. I'm sure some of them still see it as human cockfighting and this didn't help. I turned on my computer tonight and the 1st thing I see on Yahoo's front page is a picture of Jones and DC with a caption about how they showed the sad side of UFC and how it was shameful. These companies don't really want to be associated with that.

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I have to fight tooth and nail for any MMA/boxing writing exposure with major sports networks.
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There's a negative stigma surrounding the fight game, ever-present in NYC. I faced it every day in '13 and a portion of this year.
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I'm amazed it hasn't happened more often to be honest.

At the end of the day these guys fight for a living. The UFC can sugar coat it all they want in PR & media relations but ultimately two guys will walk into the cage and try and knock each other unconscious. There will always be a segment of the population who can't deal with seeing that.
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Funny how people look for anything to hate about regarding Jon Jones.
He's making it easy. The average MMA fan isn't going to accept the bravado. Coupled with his past DWI incident, I believe in his Bentley with women that weren't his wife.


Lets keep it #1HUNNA too though.


No race thread, but to a large portion of MMA fans, Jones is the wrong skin color to be acting this way.


Fair point.

Chael did similar shenanigans going into his fights and was lauded for the most part.

Unlike Chael, Bones has backed up his bravado in the octagon so far.

The fight with DC should be fun.

Some of the stuff chael would say was hilarious though. Saying he'd beat up anderson's girlfriend, big nog and eat food in his kitchen. I didn't like the guy for a long time but only liked him recently because he made me laugh.

I haven't liked jones since day 1. Sometimes you just aren't fans of certain fighters.
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Rumble wasn't too happy about the brawl either...



Rumble in UFC today is completely different than the one that was in UFC before. Not just talking about in the ring, but outside of the ring. He sounds more mature. In the comments section he went on to say that if you were a Fortune 500 company would you want your athletes acting that way when they're supposed to be icons/pioneers of the sport/business. 

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Rumble just trying to be on the other side of things considering how unprofessional he was for many years not making weight :lol and having to hear all the criticism. It must feel good to be the one throwing shots :lol

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