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I see nada wrong with it either jones is a beast I'm just not a fan I like knockout artist
post #6062 of 41107

Cormier is definitely a monster and a hell of a wrestler/athlete, but Jones was just too big and strong for him as well. DC exerted double the energy of jones just covering the distance...poor guy. He was just physically mismatched at too great of a magnitude 

post #6063 of 41107
Dc thought his wrestling was going to overwhelm jones. it felt like he forgot about actually trying to fight and win the title and wanted to score some takedown points. very disappointed, it may have been fatigue, but still. he's not gonna get another shot at jones unless it is way down the line. it felt like neither of them really hurt one another
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So, all these stories about DC outwrestling Cain in practices are made up I'm assuming

 

Cain in the crowd plotting against Bones

post #6065 of 41107

Rumble isn't getting past Gustafsson.

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Rumble isn't getting past Gustafsson.

You damb right

 

Jones Gus II needs to be a thing

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So, all these stories about DC outwrestling Cain in practices are made up I'm assuming

 

Cain in the crowd plotting against Bones

 

 

Totally different when you're wrestling with wrestling shoes on and you're not exhausted.

 

 

DC would demolish Jones and Cain in a real wrestling match, but wrestling=/=MMA wrestling.

post #6068 of 41107

Watched the fights at Bdubs. Went there at 7:30 thinking I was early but couldn't get a single seat at the bar till 8:45. Anyway I thought the main card was kinda disappointing and I was expecting a better performance from Jones.

post #6069 of 41107

I think DC messed up in that he should've been shooting for takedowns during the first 2 rounds when he still had energy if thats what he really wanted to win by...dude was going for takedowns in the end when he shouldve been throwing for a KO

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So, all these stories about DC outwrestling Cain in practices are made up I'm assuming

Cain in the crowd plotting against Bones


Doubt they're made up.


I honestly believe DC is a different fighter at HW. Ya'll forget how he was man handling everybody?

Dude had impressive stamina as well.


I honestly think 205 was a detriment in this kind of high paced fight.
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I think DC messed up in that he should've been shooting for takedowns during the first 2 rounds when he still had energy if thats what he really wanted to win by...dude was going for takedowns in the end when he shouldve been throwing for a KO

Plans go out the window when you're getting punched and kicked in the head/body

post #6072 of 41107
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Cowboy disappointed if anything. He's talking now, admits he sucked

 

Let's get Khabib v Cowboy next, Khabib will destroy him for a title shot

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Plans go out the window when you're getting punched and kicked in the head/body

 

I think you'd still be able to still plan after getting hit if youre a professional fighter considering you'd fight almost everyday during training and all...

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I think you'd still be able to still plan after getting hit if youre a professional fighter considering you'd fight almost everyday during training and all...

True but man, I'll give Bones more credit than anything for taking DC out of his element

 

Don't matter if you're a pro or not when you're facing someone like Jones

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Cormier made me a fan tonight. I thought he did better then the judges thought, but Jones won that fight based off the takedowns. Jones pissed me off at the end, I hope Cormier gets a rematch and knocks him out.

I thought it was close too, but you have to give close rounds to the champ.  Overall you got to beat the champ to take the belt, if this was non title fight. It could of easily been 3-2 DC depending on how you judge your fights. 

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I thought it was close too, but you have to give close rounds to the champ.  Overall you got to beat the champ to take the belt, if this was non title fight. It could of easily been 3-2 DC depending on how you judge your fights. 

DC's face after the fight let me know exactly what the scorecards should have read

 

DC knows he didn't win that

post #6077 of 41107

Jones simply cannot be beat by someone possessing skill alone, his physical stature and genetic gifts require someone to be physically and skillfully at his level. DC was just too short, GUS who was much taller and around the same figure as Jones faired much better for example

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Jones simply cannot be beat by someone possessing skill alone, his physical stature and genetic gifts require someone to be physically and skillfully at his level. DC was just too short, GUS who was much taller and around the same figure as Jones faired much better for example

 

Agreed.

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Cormier made me a fan tonight. I thought he did better then the judges thought, but Jones won that fight based off the takedowns. Jones pissed me off at the end, I hope Cormier gets a rematch and knocks him out.
I thought it was close too, but you have to give close rounds to the champ.  Overall you got to beat the champ to take the belt, if this was non title fight. It could of easily been 3-2 DC depending on how you judge your fights. 

i see a world where you can give 2 to DC, but nothing more.

that beating the champ to get the belt thing is damn true.
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Jones simply cannot be beat by someone possessing skill alone, his physical stature and genetic gifts require someone to be physically and skillfully at his level. DC was just too short, GUS who was much taller and around the same figure as Jones faired much better for example

yep.


which is why I highly doubt he'd find the same success at HW. He'd need to cherry pick his fights. Hunt, Nelson, etc.


Though, sleeping on Hunt would be a bad, bad idea for Jones.
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Looks like Gustafsson is expressing his disappointment in the champ already. 

post #6082 of 41107
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Jones face clean

 

Still going in on DC wow

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Other than a convincing R2 for DC, you could only conceivably give R3 to Cormier.

JBJ won the first (left to body, etc.), R4 with takedowns and clinch work. DC was gassed. R5 was Jones' as well. Cormier was persistent about landing an unnecessary takedown at that juncture of the fight.
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Jones face clean

 

Still going in on DC wow

 

are you watching the post fight? link?

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are you watching the post fight? link?

FS1 bro

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JBJ, Garbrandt, Horiguchi, Akhmedov.

#Champstradamus.
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JBJ, Garbrandt, Horiguchi, Akhmedov.

#Champstradamus.

 

Did you peep Paul Felder in the prelims? Nastyy

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Other than a convincing R2 for DC, you could only conceivably give R3 to Cormier.

JBJ won the first (left to body, etc.), R4 with takedowns and clinch work. DC was gassed. R5 was Jones' as well. Cormier was persistent about landing an unnecessary takedown at that juncture of the fight.

all of this.
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Other than a convincing R2 for DC, you could only conceivably give R3 to Cormier.

JBJ won the first (left to body, etc.), R4 with takedowns and clinch work. DC was gassed. R5 was Jones' as well. Cormier was persistent about landing an unnecessary takedown at that juncture of the fight.

all of this.

this
you got to beat the champ convincingly. if gus (who i thought won) brought it and still couldnt get that decision no way can you make a case for cormier.
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DC's face after the fight let me know exactly what the scorecards should have read

 

DC knows he didn't win that

Lawlers''s too but he took strap from Hendricks. 

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Other than a convincing R2 for DC, you could only conceivably give R3 to Cormier.

JBJ won the first (left to body, etc.), R4 with takedowns and clinch work. DC was gassed. R5 was Jones' as well. Cormier was persistent about landing an unnecessary takedown at that juncture of the fight.

This is how I saw it. Round 5 no one really do anything except Jones pretty much stall and  neutralized him.  Would of been awesome if DC knocked out Herb at the end. 

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