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Also - Cain only fights around 235 to begin with, right? Maybe 240?

JBJ comes in at like 225 into fights after cutting down to 205 for weigh in.  Wonder what he'd look like if they fought at a catch weight of 220, forcing Cain to have to cut a little before fight for the first time.

Cain is usually 240-250.

Everybody was making a huge deal about the fact that DC trains with Cain day to day but Jones has had Overeem at Jacksons for a while now. He might not be the most durable guy but he must be a mother***** to deal with in training scenarios considering his level of physical strength and his clinch/grappling abilities.
post #6182 of 41029

That's true... No putting Reem to sleep during training so he just gets to throw his weight around with no worries. :lol

 

I don't see JBJ going up to HW without an immediate title shot tho. Superfight or no fight if I'm Jon.

post #6183 of 41029
I thought overeem's training partners don't even like him. Surprised Arlovski hasn't put him to sleep in a sparring session yet.
post #6184 of 41029
The thing I don't understand is why are we wanting to see Jones vs Cain when Jones still have unfinished business with Gus? As much as i like rumble ... I hope that His wasn't a flue and he wins so he can demand that rematch. I want to see a convincing win by either Jones or Gus before they can move forward. .02 cents
post #6185 of 41029

I give JBJ the benefit of the doubt after 8 title defenses that he doesn't "owe" a rematch to anyone.

 

Hes run through HOF types to get to where hes at.  He can do whatever he wants at this pt IMO.

post #6186 of 41029
I'd like to see Jones fight both Gus and Rumble. Which is what makes this fight between the two a gift and a curse.

We all know what Gus did vs. Jones.

But I was impressed with how Rumble fought against Phil Davis and would still like to see he and Jones square off at some point. Win or lose vs. Gustaffson.

Rumble also beat Arlovski in a HW match in WSOF not too long ago.

Subs seem to be his Achilles heel so he'd need to work on those.
post #6187 of 41029

One thing I worry about with Rumble is his cardio. Probably has a lot to do with muscles needing more oxygen or whatever it is that Rogan says, but he gasses. Maybe things are different now so interested to see how he looks if the fight with Gus goes into the 4th or 5th round.

post #6188 of 41029
I can't recall if he gassed against Davis. That was a full 3 rounds.

I thought he was doing better since he stopped trying to cut so much.
post #6189 of 41029
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I can't recall if he gassed against Davis. That was a full 3 rounds.

I thought he was doing better since he stopped trying to cut so much.

Nah he washed Phil for 3 rounds with hardly any signs of fading. I don't think cardio is an issue for him when he's comfortable.

5 rounds with Gus is a different ball game though.
post #6190 of 41029
Yessir.

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post #6191 of 41029
3 consecutive weeks to round out the month....

GOAT vs mortal

Rumble vs Gus

Silva vs Diaz

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post #6192 of 41029
been a nice stretch for mma fans pimp.gif
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post #6193 of 41029
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Nah he washed Phil for 3 rounds with hardly any signs of fading. I don't think cardio is an issue for him when he's comfortable.

5 rounds with Gus is a different ball game though.
maybe .. Maybe not ... Phil Davis Choked out Gus.
post #6194 of 41029
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been a nice stretch for mma fans pimp.gif
nice stretch? UFC 182 was horrible.
post #6195 of 41029
Ufc 182 for me....
Showed bones ran threw dc.. Not takin anything from either n wanted dc to win but jones is something else

But felder that guy won me over with his attacks he's crafty n knocked the dude out I like that alot
post #6196 of 41029
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I have very low confidence in Rumble's cardio. With his crazy cut to WW he was always gassing, especially with all that muscle mass

 

Now that he's at LHW maybe he gets more bang with his buck in the cardio department. For 5 rounds against Gus or Jones though, :x

 

I don't think many people are clamoring for Jones v Cain yet either. Most people know he has unfinished business with Gus

 

I wouldn't say Cain would destroy Jones by any stretch. Cain is a small HW. Jones is a huge LHW. Jones would destroy Brock standing to whoever asked that

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"Cowboy" Cerrone replacing Eddie in Boston for his rematch vs. "Bendo."
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post #6198 of 41029
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"Cowboy" Cerrone replacing Eddie in Boston for his rematch vs. "Bendo."

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:rollin

 

******* Cowboy. DAMN, that's 2 fights in 3 weeks :rollin

 

Bendo going to beat him for a third time :x 

 

IF Cowboy wins though, give him a ******* title shot

post #6199 of 41029
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BTW, fighter salaries from UFC 182

 

Jon Jones: $500,000
Daniel Cormier: $90,000

Donald Cerrone: $140,000 (includes $70,000 win bonus)
Myles Jury: $16,000

Brad Tavares: $50,000 (includes $25,000 win bonus)
Nate Marquardt: $49,000

Kyoji Horiguchi: $40,000 (includes $20,000 win bonus)
Louis Gaudinot: $10,000

Hector Lombard: $106,000 (includes $53,000 win bonus)
Josh Burkman: $45,000

Paul Felder: $20,000 (includes $10,000 win bonus)
Danny Castillo: $36,000

Cody Garbrandt: $16,000 (includes $8,000 win bonus)
Marcus Brimage: $12,000

Shawn Jordan: $44,000 (includes $22,000 win bonus)
Jared Cannonier: $8,000

Evan Dunham: $54,000 (includes $27,000 win bonus)
Rodrigo Damm: $12,000

Omari Akhmedov: $20,000 (includes $10,000 win bonus)
Mats Nilsson: $8,000

Marion Reneau: $17,600 (includes $8,000 win bonus)
Alexis Dufresne: $6,400

post #6200 of 41029
never knew what mma fighters' salaries were. it's a bit surprising to me that they're so low - esp. JBJ not even breaking $1M.
post #6201 of 41029
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never knew what mma fighters' salaries were. it's a bit surprising to me that they're so low - esp. JBJ not even breaking $1M.

Yeah it's been the controversial thing for a while now, fighter pay

 

Jones does make over a million though in endorsements and PPV shares, he's definitely a millionaire, IMO

 

The other fighters don't make too much. Like, if you aren't a budding star and you been losing there's no point in staying in the sport. Now looking at some of those other dudes, if you're making 30K a fight that's not bad IMO. Especially if you're an up and comer 

post #6202 of 41029
Plus fighters have so many expenses. You're going to struggle to break even if you're one of the lower card guys.

I thought Jens Pulver had retired a few years ago but dude is out there still fighting just to get a paycheck. Kinda sad to see.
post #6203 of 41029
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Definitely. If you're not smart with your money you will pay for it badly

 

Especially the fighters from yester year

post #6204 of 41029
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Plus fighters have so many expenses. You're going to struggle to break even if you're one of the lower card guys.

I thought Jens Pulver had retired a few years ago but dude is out there still fighting just to get a paycheck. Kinda sad to see.


Fighter expenses are crazy. I think it was in the Forbes article someone posted in here about Cerrone getting sponsored by Fram, but dude spent $20k on training not including paying Jackson, Winklejohn, and other coaches, for his fight with Jury.

post #6205 of 41029
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Fighter expenses are crazy. I think it was in the Forbes article someone posted in here about Cerrone getting sponsored by Fram, but dude spent $20k on training not including paying Jackson, Winklejohn, and other coaches, for his fight with Jury.

Yeah I posted that, Cowboy built an entire gym facility though. Fram paid for the whole thing though :hat 

 

I know he said it was all for partners and what not but in another show he also said he finally finished building the gym on his ranch. There's no way he spent 20K just on partners

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so who lost money betting on cormier laugh.gif

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My dude DC only made $90k? That seems very low, although with about two fights a year I'm sure he isn't starving
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Fighter expenses are crazy. I think it was in the Forbes article someone posted in here about Cerrone getting sponsored by Fram, but dude spent $20k on training not including paying Jackson, Winklejohn, and other coaches, for his fight with Jury.

Yeah I posted that, Cowboy built an entire gym facility though. Fram paid for the whole thing though :hat 

 

I know he said it was all for partners and what not but in another show he also said he finally finished building the gym on his ranch. There's no way he spent 20K just on partners

 

I doubt just his partners cost $20k but I know that training camps cost a lot. That one fighter that was a stock broker or something said that his camps at Renzo Gracie's gym (gym fees, coaches, supplements, and training gear) costs him around $8k-$12k. I think in the end he said he ended up losing money with each fight.

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My dude DC only made $90k? That seems very low, although with about two fights a year I'm sure he isn't starving

Yeah I honestly don't think that's so bad but I would like to see their expenses. If he can do 3 fights a year, I think he'd be doing pretty well for himself 

 

Only the superstars make the hundreds of thousands

 

Lombard got a hell of a deal only because he came from Bellator

 

Pretty sure Eddie Alvarez is getting paid good as well

post #6210 of 41029
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wut

 

Henderson's original opponent, Eddie Alvarez, withdrew from the fight because he has the flu, according to sources at Authentic Sports Management, his management team. Alvarez's sickness resulted in weight loss and stopped him from training. He apparently tried to fight through it, but he felt worse on Monday and was forced to pull out of the bout.

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