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Barao opened at -285, Faber +255. I think Urijah knows this his last shot and is a serious live dog here.

Will be rooting for The Kid.
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post #932 of 40970
didnt faber injured his rib on the first round of the fight. i dont remember exactly what it was.
i expect faber to make this fight a lot more challenging than the first.
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I wanted to see Cruz lose, but I'm happy about the rematch.
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Barao doesn't need to beat Cruz, but it would help to add some more legitimacy.  Barao is like 99% there, and beating Cruz convincingly would give us that definitive answer.  I think Barao is better anyway, but a shame that fight ain't happening.

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Even with prime 100% healthy Cruz, the division is probably the weakest in MMA. Not really making any specific point, but I was just looking at the rankings and was like meh at all the names.

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I think you mean weakest in the UFC, but I get your point.  Once that women's strawweight division opens up though....

 

Women's bantamweight may already be the weakest, depending on if anyone can give Rousey a run for her money. 

 

Flyweight is pretty dead too.

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Flyweight has some life: Bagautinov, Dodson, Creepy, Lineker if he can make weight...
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I guess I said that cuz Mighty Mouse already beat Dodson and Creepy.  Dodson did have him in trouble though, would make for a good rematch.

 

edit: Johnson is just cleaning out the division, but there are a few potential matchups.


Edited by DeezyVSOP2 - 1/7/14 at 8:50pm
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my dude dom :{

post #940 of 40970
Cruz would have got dominated by Barao anyway.

Barao been the true champ
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Originally Posted by Vincent Van Ho View Post

Even with prime 100% healthy Cruz, the division is probably the weakest in MMA. Not really making any specific point, but I was just looking at the rankings and was like meh at all the names.

Flyweight is worse...

p4p very few are more talented and well rounded than Barao, Cruz and Faber.

After that there are some very solid fighters but i agree it lacks the depth of the heavier weight classes.
post #942 of 40970

Rumors starting about Werdum vs. Browne in a title eliminator.

 

Who do you y'all got and why?

 

Werdum commented on Browne's lack of cardio, but even if that's true, it won't matter if Werdum can't stop Browne's assaults.  Werdum looks a bit better on paper, but my gut says Browne would win.

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Flyweight is worse...

p4p very few are more talented and well rounded than Barao, Cruz and Faber.

After that there are some very solid fighters but i agree it lacks the depth of the heavier weight classes.

Cruz is pretty much done in my opinion, but the depth simply isn't there in the division even with prime Cruz. Flyweight is definitely not anything to write home about either though, I agree.

 

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Rumors starting about Werdum vs. Browne in a title eliminator.

 

Who do you y'all got and why?

 

Werdum commented on Browne's lack of cardio, but even if that's true, it won't matter if Werdum can't stop Browne's assaults.  Werdum looks a bit better on paper, but my gut says Browne would win.

Dana has been saying Wedum would get the winner of Browne/Barnett for a while now. I'd hope Browne wins because I don't think Werdum has anything for Cain. I at least think Browne would threaten Cain or has the chance to threaten him more than Werdum.

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Cain wins the majority of his fights by ground and pound though.

 

Gotta think Werdum could sneak in a submission attempt in there somewhere.

 

Still think Cain would win, but both cases obviously have their matchup problems.

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The thing is Cain should and will be smarter than that. Really the only threat Werdum poses to Cain is his grappling and I don't see Cain letting himself be put in any vulnerable situations. I don't think the fight would be dynamic at all compared to a fight with Browne. Werdum's standup has definitely evolved though. It will be great to see him matchup with Browne.

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I don't see Cain in trouble either, except for the occasional sub attempt.  Werdum's striking HAS improved, but if Cain survived his last two fights against JDS, I don't see what Werdum could do to really hurt him.

 

JDS was the last serious threat to Velasquez I think.  Not that Werdum or Browne are cakewalks, and I still think Browne could put Cain or anyone else in trouble. 

 

And there's always Jon Jones talking about moving to HW.

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do you think Browne's footwork can give him a chance against Cain. I remember during the bigfoot fight, he was getting good strikes off before he got injury and Florian was impressed at how well he moved.
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post #948 of 40970

Browne's sheer size is an issue.  His striking is pretty good for a guy his size.

 

I think his victory over Overeem was a bit overblown, Alistair doesn't look the same after he stopped doing whatever he was doing for the Brock fight.  But he was able to finish Overeem, which come to think of it, lots of guys were able to do.

 

Nothing to laugh at, but Cain has the overall advantage.

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I agree, I thought Browne's win over Reem was a bit overblown just like I think Brock's win over Carwin is. Both Browne and Lesnar were getting destroyed until Reem and Carwin both gassed.

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But see the thing about Reem vs. Browne, yeah Reem looked like he was about to finish the fight, but he looked much the same against Bigfoot for two rounds.

 

Picture old Reem on top of Bigfoot throwing those bombs.  Bigfoot would be out cold.  But the shots he threw from top position didn't seem to REALLY hurt Bigfoot.  Then of course we know what happened in R3.

 

Same for Browne.  I feel like a lot of those shots would have finished guys back when Reem was in K-1 and whatever.  Even though Browne was getting tagged, he didn't seem THAT fazed by what Overeem was throwing.

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UFC 172 in Baltimore, April 26th: Jon Jones v Glover Teixeira

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I'm not gonna hold my breath for that one.  How many times has that fight been rescheduled now?

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It was linked to three different cards.

 

Arthur Jones, Jon's brother, who plays for the Ravens, Tweeted about this fight/date a month ago and it turned out he was right.

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Looking at the pic Dana posted of Silva's leg I have a question. Why did they open him up by his knee? 

 

And I can't really be mad at Jones for his fight getting rescheduled all of the time. He's probably trying to get fully healthy. He's been injured or banged up in all of his last fights. Messed his elbow up against Belfort, messed up his toe against Sonnen, and got beat up against Gus and he claimed his toe wasn't at full strength then. 

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Maybe had to work on some ligaments or something.  Have no idea.  Pulling for the guy though.

 

I ain't mad at Jones either.  Showed a lot of heart in his fight against Gus.  I'd only want to see the best Jones fight the best Teixeira.  Should make for an interesting fight, but I don't see Teixeira getting past Jones' reach and movement.

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Looking at the pic Dana posted of Silva's leg I have a question. Why did they open him up by his knee? 

Because the doctors inserted a rod that acts as a brace for his leg. It is screwed on two parts, one near his knee and another past the broken part, closer to his foot. Once the broken bone is healed they will remove the rod.
post #957 of 40970
It is interesting that nobody wants to fight khabib. Give him diego sanchez or nate diaz, if not then they will have to settle for a lower ranked guy. That is if they really want to push for him to fight as scheduled.
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Maybe because the top contenders have nothing to gain and a lot to lose against him.

post #959 of 40970

@tiger energy according to Dana, they offered Nate Diaz the fight against Khabib but Nate turned it down. Nate's saying that Dana is full of crap but who knows. I think a lot of top guys don't wanna fight him because he's a dangerous match up. 

post #960 of 40970
Yeah that's what I figured. It would have been exciting matches. Why can't they just fight for the sake of fighting.
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