The MMA Thread: DON'T ASK 4 STREAMS & NO GIFS- UFC 300 ON NOW

[HEATHEN]

The takedown is accounted for in that chart too...

Bendo won that though.

Frankenstein is going to keep his belt.

This, this and probably....this.



Yep.

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

Looks like this will be Reem's last fight on his contract. Hell of a last fight with JDS 

Al Iaquinta is looking to return in July

Werdum signed a 8 fight deal

 

[HEATHEN]

Looks like this will be Reem's last fight on his contract. Hell of a last fight with JDS 

Al Iaquinta is looking to return in July

Werdum signed a 8 fight deal

Can't wait for JDS vs Reem this weekend.


JDS my boy and I'm pulling for him but I can't shake the feeling that Reem is going to catch son.

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

Reem has been so up and down in the UFC, 4-3. Who knows when he was juicing but he definitely was. Not to mention his last fight in Strikeforce against Werdum was just a bizarre match

I wouldn't be surprised if this was Reem's last go round with the UFC win or lose... but man I don't think JDS gonna lose to this glass jaw no cardio dude...

 

[g money 87]

My criteria absolutely matters. Both in MMA and boxing, styles makes fights. If a guy who is an out-fighter for example, and uses the perimeter of the octagon to move and keep his opponent chasing him, and does just that in a fight against a guy who wants to keep the fight centered in the middle of the octagon, then judges ABSOLUTELY take that into account.


You're fooling yourself if you don't believe that. Judges don't have access to raw stats. They don't get compubox/compustrike/FightMetric numbers delivered to them ringside. Do they try to keep a mental tally on strike count/significant strikes and takedowns? Absolutely.


But you're not going to sit there and tell me that they dismiss who fights their fight or who is executing their game plan. They absolutely take note of such nuances and score accordingly.


I didn't say anything about Cerrone's kicks. I said many of Bendo's kicks didn't visibly hobble Cerrone but Cerrone obviously didn't put forth the volume many expected to put forth in a fight many saw as a must-win for him having lost to Bendo previously twice. Reading is fundamental.


Biased? Okay son. I could give a flying **** about RDA, Bendo or Cerrone. Not a fan of any one of those three. I'm simply saying that I, objectively, saw Cerrone lose to Bendo, as did most others.


IDK why you're arguing either, I simply stated my opinion and you got all bent out of shape.

I don't get bent outta shape for anything over the internet..

I read what u wrote, I mistyped cerrone, meant to say bendo in response to ur statement bout throwing kicks

And if ur criteria is what u think judges base their opinion on it shows why ur opinion on this fight and theirs were diff....Oct control, aggression, effective grappling and striking are the 4 fyi...not game plans and whatever else u came up with

 

[HEATHEN]

I don't get bent outta shape for anything over the internet..

I read what u wrote, I mistyped cerrone, meant to say bendo in response to ur statement bout throwing kicks

And if ur criteria is what u think judges base their opinion on it shows why ur opinion on this fight and theirs were diff....Oct control, aggression, effective grappling and striking are the 4 fyi...not game plans and whatever else u came up with

When I say game-plan, or use the term "a fighter fighting his fight", they speak to the octagon control facet of scoring.



An out-fighter coming in and being well, an out-fighter, is him (or her) executing their game plan and demonstrating ring generalship IE octagon control. A grappler going in and taking the fight to the ground, against the cage, and forcing his opponent to fight his fight is absolutely a facet of octagon control. Here's an article to further shed light on "octagon control".


http://www.mmamania.com/2012/7/24/3...-rules-mixed-martial-arts-mma-octagon-control



SO no, again, my criteria is spot on. You can continue to argue semantics and split hairs but the fact is, a fighter fighting his fight, dictating where the fight goes, the pace of the fight etc are all part of octagon control.

To my point, Bendo fought HIS FIGHT. Not Cerrone's fight, he didn't play into Cerrone's hand and IMO frustrated him and put him outside of his comfort zone (something fighters such as Lauren Murphy and Sarah Kaufman observed during the fight and echoed on their twitter feeds).



So octagon control: Bendo

Significant Strikes: Bendo

Takedowns: Cerrone

Aggression: Bendo. And why? Because Cerrone couldn't implement his aggression. HE wanted to, he couldn't. Bendo nullified that by fighting his fight AND? DING DING DING, executing his game-plan.



Have a good one.

 

[HEATHEN]

Reem has been so up and down in the UFC, 4-3. Who knows when he was juicing but he definitely was. Not to mention his last fight in Strikeforce against Werdum was just a bizarre match

I wouldn't be surprised if this was Reem's last go round with the UFC win or lose... but man I don't think JDS gonna lose to this glass jaw no cardio dude...

Yeah, if it makes it past the first then It's JDS all the way.


But in the early goings, Reem could finish it with one shot.



That said, JDS's chin SERIOUS. So it would be a tall order for even Reem to KO him early.



I just know better than to sleep on Reem.



Oh and that last fight in Strikeforce with Werdum was all on Werdum. WTF was son doing?


Son was all out of dambs that night.

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

Werdum was trying to pull guard every second 

if he would have just stood he would have won that fight too, pretty sure he kept up with him in striking

My picks are: RDA, JDS, Johnson. My picks have been about .500 lately, got Aldo and Weidman both wrong last week

Reem has never seemed to gain any traction. At this point to me he screams Bellator status. That is he is easily UFC material but Bellator will overpay the hell out of him and the UFC doesn't need him

 

[HEATHEN]

Werdum was trying to pull guard every second  if he would have just stood he would have won that fight too, pretty sure he kept up with him in striking

My picks are: RDA, JDS, Johnson. My picks have been about .500 lately, got Aldo and Weidman both wrong last week

Reem has never seemed to gain any traction. At this point to me he screams Bellator status. That is he is easily UFC material but Bellator will overpay the hell out of him and the UFC doesn't need him

Werdum in my eyes was out striking Reem, I mean he wasn't LIGHTING Reem up, but he was outscoring him in the stand-up from what I remember....Lemme double check.



http://blog.fightmetric.com/2011/06/overeem-vs-werdum-ii-official.html


Yep. He did.



I want to say I actually scored that fight for Werdum . I can't remember off-hand right now...



Anyways, say Reem wins. It would have to set up Werdum vs Overeem III in the event that Werdum beats Cain in their rematch, right? I mean Reem is still a sellable commodity and I don't think the UFC would hesitate to make that fight if the opportunity presented itself.



Playing devil's advocate, I'm hoping JDS washes him and then washes the winner of Cain vs Werdum II and gets his strap back.

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

Reem is definitely sellable should he win. If he loses, Bellator still offers him a boatload of money and Reem will be 4-4 in the UFC. Would the UFC be so inclined to match the offer? IMO, I don't think it's necessary really

Should Reem win in a nice fashion, yeah they can definitely sell a Cain or Werdum vs Reem

 

[HEATHEN]

Eh, if he loses I say keep him for the hell of it.


Do Hunt vs Overeem II or even Arlovski vs Overeem. The two have some bad blood dating back to a training camp incident.


IDK, might as well keep the guy around.

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

I would keep him it's just a matter of what his offers would be even if he loses. I feel like Dana won't care about him lol

BTW, totally overlooked the Oliveria vs Jury fight. GREAT match, we'll see if Jury's move to Arizona helps him and we'll see how he does in his featherweight debut. Sucked to see Oliveria get that weird injury against Holloway

 

[HEATHEN]

I would keep him it's just a matter of what his offers would be even if he loses. I feel like Dana won't care about him lol

BTW, totally overlooked the Oliveria vs Jury fight. GREAT match, we'll see if Jury's move to Arizona helps him and we'll see how he does in his featherweight debut. Sucked to see Oliveria get that weird injury against Holloway

Yeah that was an unfortunate freak injury for Oliveria, dude was on a roll prior to that.


Big fight that could really shake up the featherweight division. Still think Holloway is the future of the division but if Fury can get the win I'd like to see he & Holloway go at it.

 

[g money 87]

When I say game-plan, or use the term "a fighter fighting his fight", they speak to the octagon control facet of scoring.



An out-fighter coming in and being well, an out-fighter, is him (or her) executing their game plan and demonstrating ring generalship IE octagon control. A grappler going in and taking the fight to the ground, against the cage, and forcing his opponent to fight his fight is absolutely a facet of octagon control. Here's an article to further shed light on "octagon control".


http://www.mmamania.com/2012/7/24/3...-rules-mixed-martial-arts-mma-octagon-control



SO no, again, my criteria is spot on. You can continue to argue semantics and split hairs but the fact is, a fighter fighting his fight, dictating where the fight goes, the pace of the fight etc are all part of octagon control.

To my point, Bendo fought HIS FIGHT. Not Cerrone's fight, he didn't play into Cerrone's hand and IMO frustrated him and put him outside of his comfort zone (something fighters such as Lauren Murphy and Sarah Kaufman observed during the fight and echoed on their twitter feeds).



So octagon control: Bendo

Significant Strikes: Bendo

Takedowns: Cerrone

Aggression: Bendo. And why? Because Cerrone couldn't implement his aggression. HE wanted to, he couldn't. Bendo nullified that by fighting his fight AND? DING DING DING, executing his game-plan.



Have a good one.

Only in ur world

 

[g money 87]

I would keep him it's just a matter of what his offers would be even if he loses. I feel like Dana won't care about him lol

BTW, totally overlooked the Oliveria vs Jury fight. GREAT match, we'll see if Jury's move to Arizona helps him and we'll see how he does in his featherweight debut. Sucked to see Oliveria get that weird injury against Holloway

Dunno why that didn't make the main card..

Got same picks as u, but hoping cerrone wins, unfortunately it's going to be tough as hell to beat the Frankenstein/terminator hybrid

 

[QU!K]

Joe Rogan saying Aldo's body looked "different"

 

[HEATHEN]

Only in ur world

Okay, I'll take that as you conceding. It's okay, you don't have to admit you're wrong. You threw out the term "octagon control" and demonstrated that you didn't know what it meant.

 

[JCMojica24]

Super Sage DA GAWD was in a Star Wars commercial

http://www.foxsports.com/ufc/haymak...-lightsaber-121615?cmpid=tsmtw:fscom:ufconfox

 

[carver]

 

"AND NEWWWWW"

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

-Frankie's coach:

"I saw Conor's coach's [John Kavanaugh's] remark on your show [The MMA Hour]..Bro, why is his boy running so bad?" Henry asked. "Now, he has [had] two chances to fight Frankie. First was when Aldo got hurt [before UFC 189] and the UFC asked Chad [Mendes] 'Have you been training?' and he said no, he's been doing a hunting show. They asked Frankie, and he said, 'I train all year, yeah, I'm ready.' He picks Mendes."

"Now Frankie finishes the same guy [Mendes] he [McGregor] had on 10-day notice that spanked him until he got tired, and Frankie does his part," Henry said. "This fight comes down to both, when they were in beginning of their career, when both [were] in a kneebar, Frankie says, 'Break it off,' and he [McGregor] taps before the guy has a good grip. They're not even made [from] close to the same heart."

Henry also believes McGregor moving directly to 155 pounds goes against the precedent set by other champions – including Edgar – in the past. With no title defenses to his name yet, Henry believes McGregor should hold serve until he's earned the right to move up to challenge the lightweight elite.

"No one has ever been able to jump up in weight class before taking care of the top five, and this guy doesn't even have one defense," Henry said. "The guy says he would fight Frankie if Frankie took care of business. Well, he did, so he should be a man of his word and stop being so scared. He's the one that's been scared for so many years cutting down from 180, 175 to fight guys with less range, weight and height, while Frankie was 152 fighting 155.

"So now you have the belt –  man up and defend it. Like they said in Braveheart, 'Don't tuck tail and run.'"

-RDA has had it with Cowboy's antics

"If you look at my record, I have a clean record," dos Anjos told MMA Fighting. "I've been tested a lot of times for this fight. I didn't know it, but [someone] just told me that he (Cerrone) was drug tested once. I was tested four times, and you'll see. December 19th, he's going to get what he deserves, and I'm going to see what he's going to say after."

"You've never seen Donald Cerrone do this with nobody else," dos Anjos said. "Have you? He doesn't. I think he was just a guy who trained and did his job, but now he's trying to do these things, you know? I think he's trying to mess up my head, but these are stupid child games that don't work with me. He's just showing me he's not confident.

"Like he said, he doesn't give a s**t about the belt. Things like that. Like, ‘okay, if I win, I don't give a s**t, but I won. If I lost, it's okay, I don't give a s**t.' That's why he wants to make me look like a favorite, he wants to make accusations, but man, I do my work. I do things right. No shortcuts. I train hard, and I'm going to show this on December 19th. I'm going to show the difference between the champ and second place. I'm going to show you, show everybody the difference between the guy who trains hard, who dedicated himself for this [sport], and the guy who does this thing for fun to make money and try to do things not right."

Dos Anjos said he ultimately isn't sure why Cerrone is prodding him so publicly, but he has his theories, and he knows it won't matter once the cage door swings closed in Orlando.

"I think just because he knows he's going to lose the fight," dos Anjos said. "He knows I have way more skills. I have more will than him. He knows when we fought the first time, the first round I broke his spirit. You could see it in his face, and I'm looking forward to doing it again, man, but even worse now. Even worse, because man, he's making accusations, he's trying to be a funny guy. But December 19th, when they lock us in the cage, it's just going to be one guy (against the other), and when the fight starts, he's going to notice that he's not on a good day.

"I'm just looking forward to going there, December 19th, keeping my belt, shutting this guy's mouth, and showing the world why I am the champion."

 

[Cashflow]

Jimmes are being rustled everywhere! We truly are in the Age of McGregor!

 

[QU!K]

Money wise fighting for the lightweight belt > fighting Frankie

He can fight Frankie at UFC 200

Let's see what happens after this weekend though

 

[carver]

RDA gonna give cowboy that work this weekend.

 

[shogun]

People saying he'll only move up if cerrone wins, getting a whoopin from rda would make him look bad.

 

[Vincent Van Goat]

These Cowboy vids are getting progressively worse lol. Good to hear that Cowboy isn't looking past RDA though