Originally Posted by ChampCruThik
Originally Posted by fraij da 5 11
I'm not condoning anything hes done. Honestly I don't know the backstory or much about him to begin with.
I'm offering up the idea that it isn't easy when someone has a no-**** mental illness to deal with.
And, newsflash, many people with mental illnesses like Schizophrenia or Bi-Polar disorder or many other mental issues also know
that they should
get help... Actually doing so is a whole new set of obstacles.
fraij, people don't get it. I'm prefaced the whole discussion by saying first and foremost, nothing excuses War Machine's behavior and decision-making. I truly believe he's a sick individual and beyond rehabilitation. I'm not an expert but it would make sense if his irrational behavior stemmed from traumatic childhood episodes. Drug addict mother, father dying in your arms as you fail to resuscitate him with CPR at 13-years-old. That doesn't leave an impact or scar? Of course it's his choice to rise above and battle through those demons. And War Machine hasn't, instead he's gotten into trouble with the law, engaged in pornographic material, and worse, physically harmed ones he allegedly loved.
Yea, I was just trying to clarify for them what you meant about feeling empathy for the dude and got immediately dragged under water.
Some people have **** happen to them that makes them act a certain way. It's not OKAY. But that is the way it is, and people don't seem to understand that.
Originally Posted by RustyShackleford
Originally Posted by fraij da 5 11
Originally Posted by FLYKNITLVR
I actually think you might be the one with a mental illness based on how you're defending dude.
18 broken bones.
But let's blame mental illness.
You apparently can't read.
I'm not defending HIM. I'm trying to shed some light on some apparent ignorance that people have regarding mental illness.
You can't show me where I've said he shouldn't be punished, because I haven't.
In this situation he'll be ordered by a judge for psychiatric evaluation and likely will be forced to take his medication that he declined to take prior to. Which is a good thing, because he obviously needs it.
Not sure why you're having such a hard time wrapping your head around the FACT that dude clearly needs professional psychiatric help.
He will be doing so in jail though.
And why can't you understand that HE KNOWS he needs help, he was on tough in 2007 he was admitted that. But refuses to get it because it views it as a waste of time, and a beta male activity.
His problem go beyond his childhood, or his anger problems. Dude celebrates cops getting killed, thinks men should rape their GFs and believes violence against stranger that piss you off should be cool.
I realize that he knows that... I've seen FIRST HAND how someone with a mental illness, Schizophrenia, can debilitate a person... And that person KNOWS they need help, they KNOW something is wrong but a DIRECT side effect of their illness doesn't allow them to commit to getting medical treatment.
I've watched a family member of mine who grew up 100 yds up the road from me deal with this. He knows that he should take medication. He knows that he should go talk to a Psychiatrist, but his disease is keeping him from doing that. Nothing that he did in his life caused him to develop schizophrenia. For some reason when he was between 21-23, he developed it and his entire life changed. The lives of his whole family changed... I look at this stuff a bit differently now... The kid that I grew up beating up on the basketball court grew up, got way better than I was at basketball, then was struck with this awful break and now spends his time just trying to keep his mind busy so that he doesn't have a breakdown.
Go over to NT General if you want to find some guys that thinks its cool when a cop gets killed... But those things you list are just signs that the man is mentally unstable.
I'm not sure where my position on this has gotten misconstrued to where a couple of you think that I'm giving him a pass... Hes in the courts hands now and they'll do their Psych evaluation and determine that he either goes to Jail or goes to the Mental Health ward of a hospital. Which is what absolutely should be happening.