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I had lawler winning too. ūüėē

Felt round 4 coulda been a 2pter as well.

No more lay & pray In the welterweight division

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post #1892 of 34320
So we're just gonna give Nick a yearly tittle shot now laugh.gif

Dudes sits on his *** for a year and *******, then gets reward like this mean.gif Some straight WWE type nonsense
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Y'all are right, Nick doesn't deserve the shot, but I will happily pay $55 to watch him fight for the strap.
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Yeah, he left millions on the table securing the belt.

hows he going to make millions if he isn't getting  good buyrates from percentage points? winning the belt doesn't make you millions ask mighty mouse, barao, benson. Getting that KO would of made him a box office star. 

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When it comes down to either doing what's best for business or what's best for the sport, Dana is gonna choose business everytime laugh.gif
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Rusty you're right. I don't think he deserves a title shot but they're gonna choose whoever they think can make them the most money. If Hendricks waits until December to fight then he gets Rory cause its in Canada. Anywhere else and he probably gets Diaz.

 

Its just like Rousey. Her last ppv didn't do exceptionally well and now we have rumors about her and Carano. Carano doesn't deserve a shot but a fight between her and RR sells. A RR and Cat fight doesn't.

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I honestly don't know what the criteria is for judging mma fights
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I honestly don't know what the criteria is for judging mma fights

i don't think anybody does. if we judge by entire fight robbie's 3&4 rounds > hendricks 1,2,5 rounds. Pride rules Lawler wins. Unified rules Hendricks wins. The irony is Hendricks wins the belt by taking more damage in the face. :lol

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I honestly don't know what the criteria is for judging mma fights

Striking, grappling , aggression, and octagon control. If you are speaking in sarcasm because of the BS decision of judges sometimes then I cannot answer that hahaha.

I don't understand why some are saying lawler won the 5th round, I like him but no way he got that last round. I hope he comes back stronger and 100% condition to fight for the title.

Congratulations to the new champion. I know he has lots of fans here.
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Hendricks chin is crazy. So many shots would have ko'ed other fighters.
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just read that siver tested positive for some banned substance

 

sucks, i like him :{

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my dude robbie lawler got jobbed. dude put on a beautiful display of boxing. saw him rolling with, slipping and parry sooooo many shots. :hat that was some of the best all around boxing ive seen in MMA in yeears.

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I read Condit may have torn ACL. Sucks. With Gsp gone he was my pick in the welterweight division.

I would rather see hendricks have an immediate rematch with lawler than nick diaz get a title shot.
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my dude robbie lawler got jobbed. dude put on a beautiful display of boxing. saw him rolling with, slipping and parry sooooo many shots. pimp.gif  that was some of the best all around boxing ive seen in MMA in yeears.





jobbed? It was tied going to the fifth a round that Hendricks won...It was a close fight and it came down to the final round and Lawler didn't have enough to get it done simple as that
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robbie wasnt jobbed, just got tired out at the end

 

would have liked to have seen him win

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where are you guys seeing that robbie lost round 1 and 2? He landed more strikes in both round 1(45% to 40% in sig.strikes) and round 2(39% vs 36% in sig.strikes) and stuffed all of johny's takedown attempts. johny almost got KO'd in the 3rd and robbie dominated the 4th so those are obvious.  robbie out struck him displaying superior technical defense constantly parrying and rolling(lots of BEAUTIFUL crazy monkey defense) with johny's punches throughout the entire fight and landed the more technical, crisper punches. not exactly sure what you guys are seeing but i guess that last takedown counted for a million points in the judges eyes(as usual).

 

robbie was boxing this fool up in a phone booth. was beautiful to see. :hat

 

problem is these judges dont know what the !@#$ theyre looking at whether its striking or grappling in MMA.  they need to get people judging these fights that have actually fought and know what theyre seeing.


Edited by red80 - 3/16/14 at 10:51am
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Not only did Robbie lose round 2, one judge gave it a 10-8 round for Hendricks. The scorecards were posted last night. I felt Robbie won 2, but he dominated 3 & 4 to the point where 4 shoulda been 10-8.
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I had Hendricks winning 1st, 2nd and 5th rd
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Win or lose, it's great to see Lawler progress how he has. He put on a great display of talent last night and like Hendricks said, it's almost certain that they will fight again one day and personally I'll be looking forward to that day.

Another fight I would love to see is Lawler vs Diaz 2. It would be great seeing these two guys box one another more than 10 years after their first bout.
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where are you guys seeing that robbie lost round 1 and 2? He landed more strikes in both round 1(45% to 40% in sig.strikes) and round 2(39% vs 36% in sig.strikes) and stuffed all of johny's takedown attempts. johny almost got KO'd in the 3rd and robbie dominated the 4th so those are obvious.  robbie out struck him displaying superior technical defense constantly parrying and rolling(lots of BEAUTIFUL crazy monkey defense) with johny's punches throughout the entire fight and landed the more technical, crisper punches. not exactly sure what you guys are seeing but i guess that last takedown counted for a million points in the judges eyes(as usual).

robbie was boxing this fool up in a phone booth. was beautiful to see. pimp.gif

problem is these judges dont know what the !@#$ theyre looking at whether its striking or grappling in MMA.  they need to get people judging these fights that have actually fought and know what theyre seeing.

Good thing you're not judging

I like how you bring up a stat like Lawler landed 39% of his sig. strike compared to Hendricks 36% in round 2 but conveniently forget to leave out that Hendricks was 42/109 in that round vs Lawlers 21/59. So hitting with 3% more accuracy is better than landing double the significant strikes now? laugh.gif

Round 1 was a little more close but Hendricks was more aggressive in standup, mixing it up with both punches and kicks. Even though Lawler stuffed Hendricks' TD attempts, they still led to Lawler being pushed up against the cage and clinched up. At no point in that round did lawler dictate anything which, is why I would give Hendricks that round as well.
Edited by DangerousG - 3/16/14 at 3:07pm
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Woodley hasn't done enough IMO to warrant a shot. Shame Condit went down like that. Lombard and Rory are closest. Diaz don't deserve a damb thing.

 

If they want to do a Woodley/Rory and Diaz/Lombard tourney I'd be down. Diaz could get revenge for his teammate Shields.

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Finally saw last night's fights and I'm not really interested in seeing Hendricks fight either Woodley or Lombard. If he does fight one of them, I would just hope someone knocks someone out in the first 2 rounds cause all 3 of them slow down significantly after 2 rounds. Not even sure I'd wanna see Rory fight him cause Firas would tell him to use his length and jab and move for the first few rounds until Hendricks gasses. GSP just needs to comeback.

post #1914 of 34320
One of the best cards in a long while.

Hendricks went through hell to get that win so much respect to him. Robbie fought a great fight but he probably absorbed to many shots going into the 5th. Especially the kicks. I was expecting him to blow his wad when he rocked him in the 3rd but he was pretty conservative with the follow up.

Bummed to see Carlos go out to an injury. That fight looked like it was about to even out after the fast start from Woodley.

Lombard made the most of a perfect matchup. He looked super impressive in what he did but it seems he only can do mma in tabata format. Balls out for 10 secs and then chill for a minute. Not sure if he'll last if he gets dragged into the championship rounds of a title fight.

Jury looked good against a predictbale Diego.

Gastelum looked like a world beater in the 1st round. Story is solid as hell and he had him all kinds of ****** up.

Bermudez looked excellent against Hettes. Guy is like a variant Chad Mendes. Despite his success i still think he should be at 135. I think the size difference will begin to show as he starts fighting the top 10 guys.

The womens match was a war. Could have been fight of the night if the main event wasn't so good.
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Good thing you're not judging

I like how you bring up a stat like Lawler landed 39% of his sig. strike compared to Hendricks 36% in round 2 but conveniently forget to leave out that Hendricks was 42/109 in that round vs Lawlers 21/59. So hitting with 3% more accuracy is better than landing double the significant strikes now? laugh.gif

Round 1 was a little more close but Hendricks was more aggressive in standup, mixing it up with both punches and kicks. Even though Lawler stuffed Hendricks' TD attempts, they still led to Lawler being pushed up against the cage and clinched up. At no point in that round did lawler dictate anything which, is why I would give Hendricks that round as well.
 
 
of course johny threw more strikes. you have to throw more strikes when your opponent is effectively counter boxing you with parries and rolls. your entire breakdown of the fight lacks any technical analysis and is black and white.
 
 
 
and what a joke for pushing someone against the cage as being the determining factor to score the round?? MMA has become a joke when its fans accept this. :{  this whole round by round, 10 point system is garbage for MMA. Not to mention the judges dont know what the hell theyre doing. miss the pride days
 
 

take back using the word jobbed. fight was close but i thought it was pretty evident who was the winner.

 

 

 

http://cdn.fansided.com/gif/Johny_Hendricks_vs._Robbie_Lawler_5.gif

 

some beautiful technical boxing right there. 1-1-2,1-2 down the pipe, change levels w/ the hook to the liver. slide step and crazy monkey(block) the punches. beautiful, crisp boxing especially by MMA standards. pretty sure i seen robbie trying to utilize some philly shell at times too :lol. was pretty impressed with johny too dude has come far from just throwing wild haymakers. i think this fight forced him to sharpen his boxing and it showed.


Edited by red80 - 3/16/14 at 4:21pm
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Finally saw last night's fights and I'm not really interested in seeing Hendricks fight either Woodley or Lombard. If he does fight one of them, I would just hope someone knocks someone out in the first 2 rounds cause all 3 of them slow down significantly after 2 rounds. Not even sure I'd wanna see Rory fight him cause Firas would tell him to use his length and jab and move for the first few rounds until Hendricks gasses. GSP just needs to comeback.

Hendricks gas tank is proven at this point. Dude went toe to toe for 5 rounds and only slowed down when he got rocked.

If he made it out of the first he would murder Woodley. Tyron can throw hammers but he doesn't play the nail too well. Hendricks would put the work on him imo.

Lombard is harder to gauge because you don't know how much he's keeping in the tank. Plus he's got dynamite hands and he can probably ragdoll 95% of guys in the division. If he can always dictate where the fight is he can manage his energy expenditure.
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#layandpray

At least it wasn't 5 rounds of it
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Woodley's strikes are significant harder than everyone else. It is visible every fight.

He may not be able to go 5 balls to the wall but who's willing and ready to stand in there with him for 5? I wanna find out
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Nick would. :D Lol I never expected Nick to go toe to toe with Paul Daley and he dropped that fool after eating bombs.
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