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post #10951 of 34015
The whole time I thought Dana would hit Rory with a bonus.

If that didn't happen.....ridiculous.
post #10952 of 34015
these guys gotta start a union and get their fair share
unless you are a mega star, you're getting shafted consider how much the ufc makes
post #10953 of 34015
I thought fight of the night both fighters get payed, not just the winner
post #10954 of 34015
FoTN is both fighters I believe.

Still, Rorys base being 59k for a title fight is a joke. He's been a top contender for a while now, the fact that he only made that much for that 5 round war is almost sad.
post #10955 of 34015
Y'all right. I had a hazy flashback of a thought that someone that should have gotten a bonus didn't (or would after the fact) when I was watching live and it was actually Chad.

But he wound up getting what I would imagine is a MUCH larger than usual base.
post #10956 of 34015

Anyone else hearing about Fedor coming out of retirement?

post #10957 of 34015
^^^Dave Meltzer is reporting that his camp is negotiating with major organizations. Nothing concrete. Prior to his retirement, he was commanding multi-million dollar pay days. Strike Force was losing money in their contract with him.
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Originally Posted by DMan14 View Post

these guys gotta start a union and get their fair share
unless you are a mega star, you're getting shafted consider how much the ufc makes

They're not hip. MMA is still a young sport. The collective fighters don't have a voice with Bellator, UFC, etc. With the recent drug policy changes, Reebok deal and low pay, you would think the fighters would've been galvanized to take action. There's that class-action suit but we'll see how well it does.
post #10958 of 34015
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Originally Posted by illphillip View Post

The whole time I thought Dana would hit Rory with a bonus.

If that didn't happen.....ridiculous.

He did get fight of the night bonus plus the 30k from reebok. And I'm pretty sure dana took care of him with an undisclosed bonus.

And smh at ppl tthinking cain and Robbie and the headliners ain't getting ppv points as well...
post #10959 of 34015
I guess it all boils down to transparency. Usually contracts spell out guaranteed money and incentives. Not "back door" shenanigans. UFC doesn't normally release the details of Fighter contracts. When you listen to MMA Hour and Ariel asks fighters the specifics of their contracts, 10 out of 10 decline to provide that information.

I know Connor McGregor didn't "only" make $500K. He probably got PPV points, undisclosed bonuses, etc. A lot of the issues in the UFC are due to an immature sport, the league/promotion having all of the power and no union.
post #10960 of 34015
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Originally Posted by G Money 87 View Post

And smh at ppl tthinking cain and Robbie and the headliners ain't getting ppv points as well...

The way I always read it is the guys that DO NOT get win bonus' (Conor here. I've seen GSP and Anderson not get them as well I believe) were the only ones that got PPV points.

That was just an assumption though.

You believe otherwise?
post #10961 of 34015
Mutante dropped to 170 and got worked by a guy coming up from 155 sick.gif
post #10962 of 34015
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Originally Posted by G Money 87 View Post

And smh at ppl tthinking cain and Robbie and the headliners ain't getting ppv points as well...
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“I’ve talked to fighters in the past who’ve had pay-per-view points, and they’ll fight on pay-per-view, and they won’t reach their goal, so they won’t get the pay-per-view points,” Johnson (19-2-1 MMA, 7-1-1 UFC) told MMAjunkie Radio. “I know I’m not a big name like Anderson Silva or [Georges St-Pierre]. That’s why there are only a few guys that have that kind of thing.
post #10963 of 34015
how much money does the UFC take in for these events? do they split PPV buys with the fighters?

its not an accurate comparison, but i'd like to see how much lower tier boxers make. seeing rory only take home $59k after that fight is sick.gif
post #10964 of 34015
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Originally Posted by denni5themenace View Post

how much money does the UFC take in for these events? do they split PPV buys with the fighters?

its not an accurate comparison, but i'd like to see how much lower tier boxers make. seeing rory only take home $59k after that fight is sick.gif

Again, with companies like UFC or WWE, there's not a whole lot of transparency in event or business segment revenue. The UFC claims it had a $7 million gate. The PPV buy rates, merchandise sales won't be known for a few weeks.
post #10965 of 34015
Re watching 189. Jeremy Stephens looks like Andrew luck laugh.gif
post #10966 of 34015
Thread Starter 

I wonder how much guys like Ariel and Luke Thomas are making. What if they're making more than a lot of fighters :lol

 

I'm watching he MMA Hour now, apparently Conor's coach is claiming Conor did zero live wrestling in camp due to his knee injury :lol

post #10967 of 34015
Still can't get over that Jeremy Stephens jumping knee eek.gif
post #10968 of 34015
It's been reported from "sources" that he had a MCL tear. He mentioned during his post fight interview that he had an injury worse than Aldo and still showed up to the fight. Luke Thomas mentioned it yesterday during his weekly podcast. Someone posted a link to a Brandon Schaub podcast and it was mentioned there. Doing a camp with injuries isn't anything new.

MMA is niche so I wouldn't have any idea how much the "journalists" earn? Journalism is such a dead-end job unless you get syndicated, become a major correspondent on a network, write books, etc. Ariel has MMA Fighting, MMA Hour podcast/show and appears on UFC Tonight.

Like I'm sure Michael Bisping, D.C. and a few others make extra money being correspondents/on-air personalities.
post #10969 of 34015

Weeks ago that FRB guy on Twitter said that McGregor hurt his knee during that face-off world tour while he was sparring with Rory and was getting stem cell injections. 

 

Out of all the MMA journalists, Ariel probably makes the most. Probably more than some of the newcomers in UFC that are making $8k-$16k to show up. He's the one they have breaking all the news. But because of that, he'll never really criticize them cause all of his scoops and UFC gigs will be given to someone else.

post #10970 of 34015
Dana was telling Aldo to get PRP for his rib lol.

Dunno, Ariel has gotten put on blast from fighters and Promoters (see Uncle Dana, Bjorn). He was just reconciling with Chael Sonnen on last week's show. The Diaz Brothers avoided him for a long time. And trust me, he's probably doing well because his place in the industry. But it's not different than other highly regarded journalist. But it's not like they're caking unless they're an anchor/on-air personality.
post #10971 of 34015
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Originally Posted by illphillip View Post

The way I always read it is the guys that DO NOT get win bonus' (Conor here. I've seen GSP and Anderson not get them as well I believe) were the only ones that got PPV points.

That was just an assumption though.

You believe otherwise?

U don't think ppl like cain, pettis, Aldo, we're getting ppv points?

And from djs comments it seems like hes confirming the fact that once they reach a certain amount of buys they get a certain cent on the dollar, once they get to another level, it goes up. And since dj ppv don't sell, he's not seeing much
post #10972 of 34015
Thread Starter 

Oh yeah I'm not doubting the legitimacy of Conor's injury, it's just funny to me that you're facing one of the most feared wrestlers in the division and you can't train wrestling :lol

 

At the same time if one doesn't believe the severity Aldo's injury then why should they believe Conor's. Just throwing it out there

post #10973 of 34015
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Originally Posted by G Money 87 View Post
 
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Originally Posted by illphillip View Post

The way I always read it is the guys that DO NOT get win bonus' (Conor here. I've seen GSP and Anderson not get them as well I believe) were the only ones that got PPV points.

That was just an assumption though.

You believe otherwise?

U don't think ppl like cain, pettis, Aldo, we're getting ppv points?

And from djs comments it seems like hes confirming the fact that once they reach a certain amount of buys they get a certain cent on the dollar, once they get to another level, it goes up. And since dj ppv don't sell, he's not seeing much


All of the champs and a lot of the top fighters get ppv points. But with the way ppvs have been selling, they're not making that much. 

 

Based on the Eddie Alvarez contract dispute with Bellator, UFC was offering him ppv bonuses. $1 for each buy between 200k-400k. $2 for 400k-600k. And $2.50 for $600k+. 

 

If Aldo has a similar deal, over the last 2 years he only earned ppv bonuses twice by barely getting over 200k buys. DJ only got them twice in the past 3 years. One time he would've earned only an extra $5k (based on Alvarez's numbers) for 205k buys and the other time was when he was the co-main for a JBJ card.  

post #10974 of 34015
Late to the party but,

Any prefight Connor fans not impressed by his performance ?

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post #10975 of 34015
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Originally Posted by G Money 87 View Post

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Originally Posted by illphillip View Post

The way I always read it is the guys that DO NOT get win bonus' (Conor here. I've seen GSP and Anderson not get them as well I believe) were the only ones that got PPV points.

That was just an assumption though.

You believe otherwise?

U don't think ppl like cain, pettis, Aldo, we're getting ppv points?

I don't believe any of these guys is getting more than the UFC HAS to pay them.

I would not assume that Robbie got any PPV $ from this card. Obviously I could be wrong.

I told you what I think. What any of us thinks doesn't really matter. I want to KNOW.

At the very least, it seems like more dudes than I thought get them.
post #10976 of 34015
If he had an injury, had to fight a new opponent that presented a matchup concern for him AND won the fight, you have to tip your hat to him.

I can see how Dana would be pissed at JBJ, Aldo, etc. Connor is maneuvering himself to be a company man.
post #10977 of 34015
Thread Starter 

Did Conor take an IV after his weight cut?

His next fight he won't be able to... like someone mentioned that could hurt him since he's a big 145er

post #10978 of 34015
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Originally Posted by Vincent Van Ho View Post

Did Conor take an IV after his weight cut?


His next fight he won't be able to... like someone mentioned that could hurt him since he's a big 145er

Faber said Conor and Chad both got an IV after weigh ins.
post #10979 of 34015
Thread Starter 
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Originally Posted by The Fresh Sole View Post


Faber said Conor and Chad both got an IV after weigh ins.

Good info

 

Oct. 1st, no more IV's 8o

 

Just watched the weigh ins today, Holm and Renau had a crazy stare down :hat so did Mir and Duffee

 

One of the most under the radar fighters in the UFC is Tony Ferguson. It's gonna be a hell of a scrap with Josh Thomson :hat

 

Just randomly watched Cowboy v Evan Dunham. After Cowboy subbed him, he said in the interview that if he didn't win he was going to retire :{ good thing he won. It was his first fight coming off his loss to RDA and not too long after Diaz put a whooping on him. Thank God Cowboy destroyed Dunham

 

He posted this today :rollin

 

post #10980 of 34015
I was sleep on this card. Totally forgot about Thomson/Ferguson.
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