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whoops, wrong thread

 

pearson was robbed :{


Edited by TheHealthInspector - 6/8/14 at 7:25pm
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Hope this little beef makes Aldo go for the kill and stop his point fighting garbage that nobody wants to see.

 

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In an interview with Tatame, T.J. Dillashaw tried to cool down a situation that has irritated Featherweight champ Jose Aldo. The Instagram account of Team Alpha Male published an image of Renan Barao's name being registered in a Muay Thai seminar by T.A.M. coach Duane "Bang" Ludwig, after UFC 173, on May 24, when the Nova Uniao fighter lost his UFC bantamweight title to Dillashaw.

 

"There are a lot of crap being said about this episode. Actually, Urijah (Faber) has never posted anything. A guy from our gym did the joke (later erased). Duane was going to give a Muay Thai seminar and the guy did the joke. It was because Duane said during my fight with Barao that I was giving him a free Muay Thai seminar in the fourth round. It got blown out of proportion." -Dillashaw

 

The UFC 135-pound title holder expressed what he feels about Nova Uniao.

 

We have a lot of respect for Nova Uniao because they have a lot of great fighters and professionals. Their head coach (Dede Pederneiras) has always respected us. We Team Alpha Male fighters would have never done that. It was just a stupid and silly joke, I wish it had not happened.

 

When aware of the image, Aldo blasted Team Alpha Male remembering the score in direct confrontation between them and Nova Uniao and said that Chad Mendes will pay the price. They will fight for the second time at UFC 176, on August 2.

 

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Wow. He's being a little too sensitive. Good thing some of these fighters don't play basketball or football, they couldn't handle all the memes and social media making fun of them.
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Funny but people are already sticking up for Sonnen and making excuses for him. How he was taking the substances to help him start producing testosterone naturally and that he just forgot to inform the commission that he was taking them. 

 

I wonder if UFC moves up the Penn/Edgar fight to the ppv. Its only 1 day, so it shouldn't be a big deal for them. Then maybe find someone else to main event the TUF card the day after. Although Fox may not allow them to take Penn/Edgar off that card.

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Nasty combo from Bendo to finish the fight...he had the choke going before khabilov even hit the floor laugh.gif

Seriously....
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Bendo's finishing combo looked straight out of a video game. Plus I like the jab he took at Pettis about the belt not being defended and if someone wanst to fight for the belt they should get @ him. 

I assumed he was taking shots at Khabib at the end of the fight. The "I Do My Talking In The Cage" bit and basically saying since the belt is on hold, that anyone who is thinking they should fight for the belt (Khabib) shouldn't just sit on the sidelines and see him.
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Seriously....
I assumed he was taking shots at Khabib at the end of the fight. The "I Do My Talking In The Cage" bit and basically saying since the belt is on hold, that anyone who is thinking they should fight for the belt (Khabib) shouldn't just sit on the sidelines and see him.

Your probably right. I heard "the belt isn't being defended" and I remember seeing Pettis there plus Pettis hasn't defended the belt yet(I know because of injury), so I just added all that together.

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Is anybody surprised? 1 fight with 3 fighters that can't pass a random test.
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-Brahs, my homeboy told me Dana was on TV trying to give excuses for Sonnen. Dis true? If so it is complete BS.
Edited by RustyShackleford - 6/10/14 at 5:21pm
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-Brahs, my homeboy told me Dana was on TV trying to give excuses for Sonnen. Dis true? If so it is complete BS.

 

I saw both interviews. The one with Dana and the one with Sonnen. I wonder if it was anyone else, say Belfort, if Dana and all of these fans would be sticking up for him. 

 

Dana basically said that it was partly Sonnen's and the commission's fault. How Chael was on TRT and it was legal, then all of a sudden it became illegal. Then he gave reasons saying that if you're on TRT you can't stop cold turkey and you need to take estrogen blockers like Chael to prevent side effects. So in his opinion the commissions should've had guidelines in place for the fighters coming off of TRT. Then he went on about how Sonnen just got married and wanted to start a family so he took hCG and now his wife is pregnant. And for no reason he went after ESPN saying people think UFC has a PED/TRT issue because of them, and that only 5 out of 500 UFC fighters got exemptions for TRT. (Which is a lie. Off the top of my head there's Hendo, Sonnen, Mir, Rampage, Forrest, Big Foot, Belfort, Duffee, Marquardt, etc)

 

During the Sonnen part his main argument was that it was out of competition testing. And unless its a PED they should be allowed to take something prescribed by a doctor. He gave examples about how if you get hurt the doctor can prescribe you vicodin and its ok out of competition but if you test for it on fight night then its a problem. Basically he got caught because he was told by his doctor whatever he was taking would be out of his system after a certain number of days. He did his own testing and they didn't show up on the test. But then USADA came in and tested him and they're testing picks up on smaller traces so he got caught.

 

It's interesting that both Sonnen and Dana said what he took isn't a PED. The Colts Robert Mathis just got suspended for taking the same thing, Clomid. Manny Ramirez and Brian Cushing both got suspended for hCG. I think even Dennis Siver got suspended for it too. 

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Clomid is definitely a PED. Dana and Chael are straight up lying

It is one of the classic too, because it has many uses.
Edited by RustyShackleford - 6/10/14 at 7:13pm
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There are so many disappointing things surrounding this whole TRT thing and Sonnen/Wandy... it's a terrible look for the sport. I hope the guys who are clean can put up some great performances so we can get past this dark cloud. I feel like this taint is snowballing into something that could really hurt the future of the sport.

 

How is Sonnen going to ever show his face on camera after this. If this happened to Wandy, Sonnen would be tearing him a new one. I don't know how I feel about the guy anymore..

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There are so many disappointing things surrounding this whole TRT thing and Sonnen/Wandy... it's a terrible look for the sport. I hope the guys who are clean can put up some great performances so we can get past this dark cloud. I feel like this taint is snowballing into something that could really hurt the future of the sport.

How is Sonnen going to ever show his face on camera after this. If this happened to Wandy, Sonnen would be tearing him a new one. I don't know how I feel about the guy anymore..

Sonen doesn't care and he got the boss riding for him.

When dude juiced against Anderson he didn't care, when he broke federal laws he didn't care, when he says racist stuff he doesn't care. He is a man of low character that will always have a place in the UFC because he appeals to a certain crowd.
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Lol a fertility drug is a ped? It may increase test levels a small amount but it's primarily a masking agent

It's like when weed smokers take hella b12 to stimey drug tests
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Sonen is bum

Why anyone supports dude is beyond me
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I never really "supported" Sonnen but I definitely think his analysis was pretty solid. Lately though IMO it's been pretty faulty and off-kilter.

 

I never took his trolling serious, racist or obnoxious as it may have been, I thought most of his trolling was hilarious. He knows how to rustle.

 

I would venture to say that in every sport a majority of the athletes could be considered "low character". That just the type of individual you're going to get in the industry. Personally I view athletes with a completely different scope, especially boxers and MMA fighters.

 

Floyd Mayweather's racism for instance, IMO, is much worse than what Sonnen was doing. Floyd's was dead serious while Sonnen's was clearly trolling. I still love Floyd as an athlete and love watching him perform. I don't give a damn that he said some blatantly terrible things about Filipinos.

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I don't really care about what floyd says, i'm filipino btw. I think a lot of the hate filipinos that don't know anything about boxing have towards him is racial also.
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Sonen doesn't care and he got the boss riding for him.

When dude juiced against Anderson he didn't care, when he broke federal laws he didn't care, when he says racist stuff he doesn't care. He is a man of low character that will always have a place in the UFC because he appeals to a certain crowd.

 

I don't want this to become a racism/race thread but that sums it up perfectly. Sonnen does appeal to a certain crowd. Anytime something happens with him or he does something, just go on Twitter or other forums and see the things that are written. When he fought Silva it was common to see his supporters make nasty comments about Brazil, him being a thug cause he has earrings, and things about his wife and kids. In his fight with Jones they questioned his religion and called him the n-word and boy on countless occasions. The guy "FrontRowBrian" on Twitter that breaks all news Sonnen, sticks up for him constantly, and even has Sonnen shouting him out on tv, he calls all Brazilians, hispanics, etc., "Mexican" just as a way to blatantly disrespect them. No one wants to say it but UFC makes a lot of money from the white, far right conservative crowd. And thats who Sonnen appeals to so they'll keep sticking up for him.

 

It'll be interesting to see if he can talk his way out of this. People are already believing what he said but reporters are calling him out for what he said. He stated that the two drugs he tested positive for were legal to take out of competition. But WADA and the USADA both clearly state that both drugs aren't allowed at all. 

 

****But Jacare is back. Fighting at UFC 176. No opponent named yet. Rockhold still has a broken toe, so I'm guessing it's either Tim Kennedy or Belfort.***


Edited by PhillyzPhan - 6/11/14 at 11:44am
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Lol a fertility drug is a ped? It may increase test levels a small amount but it's primarily a masking agent

It's like when weed smokers take hella b12 to stimey drug tests

Clomid can almost double your test, and lower estrogen. It is definitely a performance enhancing drug for an athlete.

You probably think PED=Anabolic Steriod. Which is not always the case.

And Clomid doesn't mask steroid is the way B-12 supposedly does with weed.
Edited by RustyShackleford - 6/11/14 at 12:59pm
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I never really "supported" Sonnen but I definitely think his analysis was pretty solid. Lately though IMO it's been pretty faulty and off-kilter.

I never took his trolling serious, racist or obnoxious as it may have been, I thought most of his trolling was hilarious. He knows how to rustle.

I would venture to say that in every sport a majority of the athletes could be considered "low character". That just the type of individual you're going to get in the industry. Personally I view athletes with a completely different scope, especially boxers and MMA fighters.

Floyd Mayweather's racism for instance, IMO, is much worse than what Sonnen was doing. Floyd's was dead serious while Sonnen's was clearly trolling. I still love Floyd as an athlete and love watching him perform. I don't give a damn that he said some blatantly terrible things about Filipinos.

As a man of color, I can't take someone making openly racist comments lightly. Especially when the organization he fights for encourages.

It is disgusting, plain and simple.

He is white, rich, republican, and a bigot white supremacist. There is a strong subculture that post on boards like MISC, Reddit and Sherdog that eat his stuff because they share the same veiws as him. They love him because he is allowed to spew his ignorance without punishment.

Floyd said racism things about Filipinos what once? (if it is more lemme know because I only remember the one from 2010) and apologized. Sonnen practically preaches on how he and his kind are superior to minorities. And he does so multiple times. Even sometimes after apologizing for previous statements.

So with all due respect brah, the seek "well black people do it too" argument is not gonna work there.
Edited by RustyShackleford - 6/11/14 at 1:35pm
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Oh in no way was I saying black people do it therefore it's all good. My point was that athletes are not people to take after. I don't agree with racist views at all but at the same time I honestly don't take sonnen seriously for one moment. I don't blame anyone for not liking sonnen
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With Sonnen out of 175, anyone think they should try to add another big fight to the card? Or just leave it alone since there's already 2 championship fights on it? And sonnen retired. Guess he's not appealing anymore


Edited by PhillyzPhan - 6/11/14 at 6:19pm
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See ya, Chael P... mean.gif Going to be tough for the UFC to put him on TV for a while.

As for 175, I doubt they can get another big time fight together in time, will probably just bump Uriah Hall up to the Main Card.

Just sat down to write my 174 preview, and damn, this card is unexpectedly solid. Five fights at the top that actually feature widely known MMA fighters. Rare these days...
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Miesha probably tastes sweet like a cupcake. I always notice her impressive obliques.
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UFC is in trouble. Maybe not financially. But they definitely took a few step backwards in the last few years: 

 

1. milked chael/silva for too long to establish silva as GOAT only for GOAT to get KTFO while showboating, then having GOAT break his leg kicking someone... anderson silva was becoming a household name in America - how many people know who Weidman is?

 

2. next GOAT: gsp loses to a bearded guy (in most opinions) but wins a contro decision - then immediately vacates the belt with all kinds of reasons. this is like if LBJ and KD decided to go play football. 

 

3. back up plans: create barao as p4p best fighter, only to see him get destroyed. anthony pettis - he really should be a star - gets injured too often. 

 

4. the champs: aldo has been pretty unstoppable but i've seen him fight live twice and both weren't the most exciting fights. especially the kflo fight. plus people don't love to watch 135 pounders going at it. they want to see the big guys. this is the mighty mouse curse. no one wants to buy an action figure or watch a gladiator that is a foot shorter than them. unfortunately, the young and charismatic dos santos has been replaced by a freakish machine of a man in cain velasquez. whatever he has in amazing cardio for a man his size, he sorely lacks in personality. very, very, very uncharismatic guy. 

 

 

5. the plan that should have been the plan: jj was the plan all along. he's nearly unstoppable, a "real" athlete, and he's very, very young. but problem is, he's a bit of a diva and UFC (dana) take huge public blows at their only real draw. fact is, jj is a lot easier to root against than root for. throw in the diva reports and it's harder to root for him. 

 

6. interesting contenders/big names are all related with trt and/or other banned substances: chael, belfort, wanderlei... 

 

7. the rousey show: i really don't know. ronda v. miesha 2 was by far the best fight i've ever seen live. but i don't really think of miesha as a fighter who happens to be hot. i think she's a hot girl who happens to fight. not sure about the whole women's mma thing. rousey doesn't have a challenger.  

 

8. individual sports like these must have big names and big rivalries. the biggest name right now (active) is jon jones or arguably dana white. the biggest rivalry right now is jon jones/dana white imo. 

 

ufc has hit a wall imo. i might be wrong but making three new championship belts wasn't a great move. letting the silva/sonnen rivalry hog up all the media only to have both dudes gone within 1 year is a disaster. i will continue watching - i loved seeing dillashaw dethrone barao but no one really knows or cares about dillashaw. and right before the fight white was saying how barao was P4P best right now, etc. just a bad move. 

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