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I really didn't realize how much bigger Conor is than most of the division outside of Aldo. Both these guys kill themselves to make 145 :lol 

 

Interesting to note that I don't think Norman and Conor get along

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I wouldn't have minded seeing Aldo wash him in Ireland.

That would've been great.
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I really didn't realize how much bigger Conor is than most of the division outside of Aldo. Both these guys kill themselves to make 145 laugh.gif  

Interesting to note that I don't think Norman and Conor get along
That's what surprised me most about Aldo's Boston Q&A session. He has no urgency or immediate plans to jump to lightweight. Yet there's little left to accomplish at 145 for him. Obviously Conor is a significant payday if he gets past Siver, wherever the fight takes place. Rematch with Frankie after that in the later portion of 2015? Defeated Mendes twice, who is the clear #2 at featherweight after Jose. Took care of "Bully" Lamas. Beat Cub in WEC.

Aldo has clear knowledge his close friend and training teammate Renan Barao has difficulty making 135. They've both expressed their desire to not fight each other, for reasons I respect. Jose is essentially handcuffing Barao to bantamweight knowing he's destroying his body to make weight, as evidenced in the initially scheduled Dillashaw rematch. On top of that, Barao could very well lose in Montreal in April to T.J. Although I want to pick Barao if not for the severe weight cuts.

Also, there's money to be made at 155. A showdown with Pettis would draw huge interest. Could sell in Brasil, the Midwest, or Vegas. Additionally I'd very much enjoy Aldo against Bendo or Cowboy. Eddie or Khabib. The list goes on. Perhaps Jury and Khabilov in the near future.

Point being Aldo has cleaned out the 145 division. After Conor, there's nothing left to accomplish at featherweight.
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post #6544 of 34121
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I would say if Aldo can get by Frankie again, and Conor, there really wouldn't be anything left at 145

 

I didn't think about the fact that Barao is basically trapped at 135. Aldo at 155 would be pretty epic, that division is already the best the UFC has

post #6545 of 34121
I guess when you're the king of the division, you would be in no rush to go to another weight class.
post #6546 of 34121
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Unless his weight cuts get too difficult

 

Benson Henderson said something interesting about weight cuts because he wants to fight at 170

 

That change has not been decided yet, though. Henderson, 31, admits he comes from an old-school wrestling background where you try to cut as much weight as you possibly can so you can be bigger and stronger than your opponent. But there are reasons to believe that isn't always the best thing.

 

"The new school of thought is wrestle at your natural weight, fight at your natural weight," Henderson said. "It'll be an easier time. You don't have to worry cutting weight. You won't get tired. You'll be a little bit quicker, you'll be faster and [have] a little bit better agility against bigger opponents. We'll see. There's pros and cons to both."

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I wanna see Conor at 155 if things don't work out for him at 145. He used to be champ in both although at a much less competitive level.
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I guess when you're the king of the division, you would be in no rush to go to another weight class.
Just thought these 4 reasons would serve as enough motivation: Freeing Barao's jump to 145, money, chasing P4P greatness (in the footsteps of Bones, Spider, GSP), and avoiding the 145 weight cut for good.
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Unless his weight cuts get too difficult

Benson Henderson said something interesting about weight cuts because he wants to fight at 170

That change has not been decided yet, though. Henderson, 31, admits he comes from an old-school wrestling background where you try to cut as much weight as you possibly can so you can be bigger and stronger than your opponent. But there are reasons to believe that isn't always the best thing.

"The new school of thought is wrestle at your natural weight, fight at your natural weight," Henderson said. "It'll be an easier time. You don't have to worry cutting weight. You won't get tired. You'll be a little bit quicker, you'll be faster and [have] a little bit better agility against bigger opponents. We'll see. There's pros and cons to both."
RDA KO loss changed the whole complexion of Bendo's 155 outlook. Really depends how far a third Cowboy win would catapult Smooth into title contention. Is he next after RDA, does he have to fight Khabib next? Anything longer than that, I believe Bendo jumps to 170. Not sure it's his best career move. An abundance of heavy-hitters at welterweight looming.
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I wanna see Conor at 155 if things don't work out for him at 145. He used to be champ in both although at a much less competitive level.
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Could very well see Conor "dispatch" Siver in R2, lose to Aldo, then jump to 155.
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I think the losses to Pettis and RDA might have changed Benson's mind about moving to 170 lbs. Before losing to Pettis he was talking about wanting a super fight with GSP at 170 lbs and if he won he would stay there. Then even after the Pettis fight there was talk about the RDA fight being his last at 155 before moving up. 

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Watching UFC Insider now that was on FS1, they showed footage of Cain cheering for DC during the fight, I was shocked the PPV broadcast didn't show Cain at all

 

I fully expect Cain and Jones to face off some day, hopefully soon. I have to imagine Cain heard what Jones said about him. Have to assume Cain wants to avenge the loss

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I really didn't realize how much bigger Conor is than most of the division outside of Aldo. Both these guys kill themselves to make 145 laugh.gif  

Interesting to note that I don't think Norman and Conor get along
Defeated Mendes twice, who is the clear #2 at featherweight after Jose.

It's only "clear" when he beats the rest of the guys at the top of the division.

Dude got his 2nd fight with Aldo after beating Nik Lentz. Who hasn't beaten a top dog.

Mendes is great....but let's keep it real here.
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McGregor is gonna win.  They don't tink like he tink

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McGregor promo during the Packer/Seahawks game, Troy Aikman and Buck even riding McGregor's jock :lol

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"Irish Muhammad Ali"?

Get ALL THE WAY THE **** OUT OF HERE.
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"Irish Muhammad Ali"?

Get ALL THE WAY THE **** OUT OF HERE.

To give McGregor credit, he seemed uncomfortable with that distinction. He explained on ESPN that Ali was a cultural icon who was an impact on the world outside of sports

 

Terrible comparison for anyone to even dare make

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I didn't put that on Conor. I actually kind of like him and any fighter in their right mind would be uncomfortable with that.

And for the record, when I said I'd like to see Aldo wash him in Ireland, I didn't mean I thought it was an easy fight for Aldo.

I just like the idea of Aldo silencing the **** out of that crowd after all of this pomp and circumstance surrounding McGregor.

Which, again, isn't really ALL his doing.
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Yeah whoever brought up Ali should be out of a job

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Yeah whoever brought up Ali should be out of a job


Lorenzo Fertitta was the one that started the McGregor being the Irish Ali thing :{

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Lorenzo Fertitta was the one that started the McGregor being the Irish Ali thing :{

Jesus I thought he was supposed to be the more grounded exec

 

Should have just compared McGregor/Ireland to GSP and left it at that

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i am a big fan of McGregor but this recent crazy media push is annoying and turning me off of McGregor. 

 

 

Cowboy and Uriah Hall fighting today :hat

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It's only "clear" when he beats the rest of the guys at the top of the division.

Dude got his 2nd fight with Aldo after beating Nik Lentz. Who hasn't beaten a top dog.

Mendes is great....but let's keep it real here.
Book Edgar/Mendes. They both lost to Aldo in the last year or so. No one is chomping at the bit for a rematch with either.
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Ricardo Lamas has was too much time on his hands. He made a parody of McGregor named Conrad McGillicutty.

 

 

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I think the losses to Pettis and RDA might have changed Benson's mind about moving to 170 lbs. Before losing to Pettis he was talking about wanting a super fight with GSP at 170 lbs and if he won he would stay there. Then even after the Pettis fight there was talk about the RDA fight being his last at 155 before moving up. 
Bendo does seem enamored by the idea of a super-fight with GSP. Decision would be the most likely result in that bout, in Rush's favor of course.

Interesting if Smooth defeats Cowboy for a third time, does he get the next title shot and a third crack at Pettis (after RDA)? Does Bendo fight Khabib for a title eliminator, or perhaps another opponent while Nurmagomedov waits for his chance at the belt?
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It's only "clear" when he beats the rest of the guys at the top of the division.

Dude got his 2nd fight with Aldo after beating Nik Lentz. Who hasn't beaten a top dog.

Mendes is great....but let's keep it real here.
It's pretty clear to me since Money tightened up his striking with Bang and started securing knockouts. All the TAM guys wrestle well, Chad's an explosive athlete, and his only two career losses are to the current and reigning 145 champ.

Speaks volumes when the king of featherweight calls Mendes "the prince of 145." The consensus is Chad took two rounds off Aldo in October in Brasil. Caused the most significant damage and danger I've seen to Jose in his 7 UFC title defenses.

Frankie had the benefit of fighting Aldo in Vegas. It's clear he won a round off Jose, and you can certainly argue two (I'm of that belief). But many educated MMA analysts and fans believe it was 49-46 in favor of Aldo.
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i am a big fan of McGregor but this recent crazy media push is annoying and turning me off of McGregor. 


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I'm personally only annoyed if Conor doesn't back it up. He's done so against Diamond, Brandao, and Brimage. I don't think McGregor dispatches Siver within 2 minutes, more like within two rounds in my estimation.

Love watching Cerrone fight, but Bendo's my guy. I can never root against Smooth or NBK. Hoping we get another treat like the war in 2009 in WEC.

Hall really has no excuse to not finish Stallings. Late replacement, UFC newcomer, been finished 3 times in his career.
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Book Edgar/Mendes. They both lost to Aldo in the last year or so. No one is chomping at the bit for a rematch with either.
Would love to see it if Conor wins tonight and gets Aldo next in a few months. Very similar fighters are Mendes and Frankie. No real holes in either of their games. Chad younger, Edgar more experienced. Frankie probably has the cardio and chin edge, but Mendes is likely the more explosive athlete with more KO power in his hands after all the work and training with Bang.
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@PhillyzPhan:
"Bully" Lamas giving Cub a rematch piques my interest in 2015. Winner of that fight gets the next title shot after Mendes/Frankie. Assuming Conor takes care of business tonight and solidifies his tilt with Aldo.
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^ A few days ago I kept seeing people mentioning that a Mendes/Lamas fight was close to being finalized for a card in March or April.

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^ A few days ago I kept seeing people mentioning that a Mendes/Lamas fight was close to being finalized for a card in March or April.
I'm all for it. As stated, prefer Mendes/Frankie and Bully/Cub. Wonder where that leaves Edgar if the UFC indeed books Money/Lamas.

Easier to justify Cub having to regain his status in the title shot picture and conversation, but Frankie is already getting passed for Conor in the eyes of many (in terms of merit).
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The UFC promos during the playoff game today have been so damn bad :x

 

Force feeding Conor and letting him say he was going to "take out the angry little German" :{ who approved that 

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Mendes called out Lamas late last year. Don't think it was ever official.

I'm hoping they do Edgar/Mendes if Conor wins.

I like that Gus/Johnson, Rory/Lombard are squaring off. Make the best fights between the best guys. I feel like that didn't always happen.

While Frankie's done more than a lot of dudes for a title fight, If he's not fighting Also, give us the next best thing.
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It's only "clear" when he beats the rest of the guys at the top of the division.

Dude got his 2nd fight with Aldo after beating Nik Lentz. Who hasn't beaten a top dog.

Mendes is great....but let's keep it real here.
It's pretty clear to me since Money tightened up his striking with Bang and started securing knockouts. All the TAM guys wrestle well, Chad's an explosive athlete, and his only two career losses are to the current and reigning 145 champ.

Speaks volumes when the king of featherweight calls Mendes "the prince of 145." The consensus is Chad took two rounds off Aldo in October in Brasil. Caused the most significant damage and danger I've seen to Jose in his 7 UFC title defenses.

Frankie had the benefit of fighting Aldo in Vegas. It's clear he won a round off Jose, and you can certainly argue two (I'm of that belief). But many educated MMA analysts and fans believe it was 49-46 in favor of Aldo.

OK. Clear to you.

But "clear" is a strong word to me until Chad actually beats the rest of the best around him.

What Jose believes is great. laugh.gif @ "prince of 145".

What you believe is great. But that doesn't make it "clear".

Yes, you can reflect on Edgar/Aldo 1. Location and all of that.

And you could have done the same after Mendes/Aldo 1.

Semantics really.

These things become clear-er at least, when these guys fight. Let's keep it real here.
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Watching Frankie absolutely dominate Cub makes it tough for me to not say he's right with Chad Mendes. Them two just need to match up, let Lamas just be on the outside for now.

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What happens if McGregor loses and being hyped up as the next big thing?

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