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Dude .. Did I just see DC twerkin? Wtf
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Lmfao at Dana using a flip phone and wtf is DC doing love the guys still

Has silva ever get popped for anything before?
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^^ According to Sports Center this morning, this was Silva's first offense.

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Silva's never been caught using anything before this

 

By the reactions of folks and other fighters, you would have thought Silva been on PED's his whole career

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According to his doctor Marcio Tannure, who is also the medical director of the Brazilian MMA Athletic Commission (CABMMA), Silva is devastated with the news, but claims he did not take drostanolone and androstane, the two banned substances found in his system.

 

"Anderson told me he’s disappointed, upset because he didn’t use steroids," Dr. Tannure told Band News radio. "He will ask for the confirmation test because he believes the only explanation is a contamination or a mistake from the lab. He told me: ‘I have an impeccable career history and I wouldn’t want to tarnish my image.’"

 

"It’s too soon to judge," he continued. "He has the right to a confirmation test and two other results. The Nevada Athletic Commission hasn’t talked yet, and the press is already judging him. The process isn’t over yet. If the whole process was already over, he would have already been suspended."

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^Dont do this Silva. Dont go Ryan Braun. Admit and move on mean.gif
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If was an oral steroid,could it have been given without him knowing? But then again ,with that injury,I could see him using it to heal faster
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Anyone have a timeline of drug testing standards and practices throughout the years? I know just recently the UFC has gotten more comprehensive but before that I know they didn't want to spend the extra money for random testing

 

I just wonder how thorough the testing has been dating back to say 2000 from the commissions, the UFC, everyone 

 

For instance, I read on Sherdog that Anderson's last 2 title fights he was not randomly drug tested per Ariel

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Ariel Helwani @arielhelwani · 13h13 hours ago

Also worth noting, there was no random drug testing for Silva's last 2 fights, which were both in Nevada against Chris Weidman.

 

Looks like Alvarez is down to fight Gilbert

 

Edward Alvarez @Ealvarezfight · 13h13 hours ago

@GilbertMelendez You already know I accept , im not waiting until June to fight again tho, Lets pick an earlier date June is too far out

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Originally Posted by GUNNA GET IT View Post

The bs he +'d for would have been flagged by any and every test. That's that south of the border ****, where they don't even go to a real chemist, just taking **** from around the gym.


Yeah, that and the fact that he just came off a broken leg where he probably was trying to get some muscle mass back as soon as possible, makes me think it was a one off thing.

Still not a good look for him or the UFC though. I honestly do think at least 50% of the guys in the top 10 in any division are on something whether they've been caught before or not. I definitely think GSP was on something too, he was just years ahead of the testing because he had money to spend. Supposedly his training camps used to cost big dollars, I'm sure he spared no expenses nerd.gif
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Originally Posted by Vincent Van Ho View Post
 

Anyone have a timeline of drug testing standards and practices throughout the years? I know just recently the UFC has gotten more comprehensive but before that I know they didn't want to spend the extra money for random testing

 

I just wonder how thorough the testing has been dating back to say 2000 from the commissions, the UFC, everyone 

 

For instance, I read on Sherdog that Anderson's last 2 title fights he was not randomly drug tested per Ariel


I think commissions only started doing random out of competition testing recently. I think they started around the time Overeem got busted but it wasn't a regular thing they did. Around the time that Belfort, Sonnen, Silva, etc got busted was when they really started doing regular out of competition testing, but thats only in Nevada. Don't think that most others do random testing. For the Jones v Glover fight in B-More, I think it was one of them that requested the extra testing and UFC had to foot the bill.

 

UFC just dropped their plans for out of competition testing. They said it was because their lawyers told them to due to the Cung Le fiasco. But they said they would donate money to the commissions to help them have better year round testing. 


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GSP was the one who was advocating for stricter testing in the UFC though. Didn't he want the Olympic style testing like Floyd does?

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GSP was the one who was advocating for stricter testing in the UFC though. Didn't he want the Olympic style testing like Floyd does?

If I remember correctly, 

 

- GSP wanted VADA testing. Hendricks said no cause he wasn't sure they were impartial due to their association with GSP.

- Hendricks, UFC, and NSAC agreed to do WADA testing. GSP balked.

- NSAC director Kizer and Hendricks' ppl thought GSP's was basically being sketchy cause they wanted to be informed of the random tests ahead of time, wanted his people to vet the test, and wanted to know what they were testing for and what tests they were using.

- Conspiracy theorists thought GSP was afraid of WADA keeping his sample and re-testing it in the future when the testing process catches up to the drugs that aren't easily detected now.

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Good stuff Phillyz

 

GSP being on stuff is to be expected in my mind

 

In the end I honestly don't hold it against anyone, Anderson included. TRT is somewhat of a different animal because it used to be allowed if reported. idk that just seems off lol 

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Luke Thomas breakdown of the current events

 

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Not sure if anyone is looking for a podcast but it's called of course your welcome with chael sonnen is hysterical well as long as you can stand the man
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I used to listen to mmahpur with ariel helwani before, not recently though.
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i have the following podcasts on rotation each week: MMA Hour with Ariel Helwani, Chael Sonnen's You're Welcome, Joe Rogan Experience, and The Fighter and The Kid (Brendan Schaub and Bryan Callen).
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I tried with some of those in the past, the show I'm faithful to is Ariel's MMA Hour. Doesn't get better than Ariel IMO. Chael and Rogan can be a bit much and Schaub and the other guy are decent

 

I enjoy Ariel though sometimes he can be a bit too optimistic, I also enjoy the other guy he has on there as well I think his name is New York Rick

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GSP thinks people are upset we dont get to watch him hug it out for 5 rds? Lulz

Buh byeee enjoy retirement
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GSP thinks people are upset we dont get to watch him hug it out for 5 rds? Lulz

Buh byeee enjoy retirement

Yeah man. I respect the guy and everything he accomplished over the years, but the welterweight division is way more exciting when he's not involved laugh.gif. Outside of Condit getting him in trouble with that high kick, I can't remember the last time I was actually excited during a gsp fight.
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GSP thinks people are upset we dont get to watch him hug it out for 5 rds? Lulz

Buh byeee enjoy retirement


You may not be upset but UFC and a lot of Canadians are upset they can't watch him anymore. A GSP card was guaranteed at least 500k ppv buys and without him UFC is struggling with the Canadian market. Thats why they asking him to return and fight at 186 in Montreal but he said no.

 

But I'd like to see him come back. Not because I miss his point fighting, but because I think his fights now would be competitive unlike in the past. I think most in the top 5 could hang with/give him trouble. 

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Yeah man. I respect the guy and everything he accomplished over the years, but the welterweight division is way more exciting when he's not involved laugh.gif. Outside of Condit getting him in trouble with that high kick, I can't remember the last time I was actually excited during a gsp fight.

I love and respect GSP as an athlete and a fighter. He also seems like a real nice guy. I just wasn't excited to watch him fight towards the end of his career.

 

I WAS excited in the sense to see if he'd actually lose. That's what I was more watching him for towards the end.

 

I disagree with you in that I would love to see him in there today to see if these other guys could ACTUALLY beat GSP. That would be amazing to watch.

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I didn't keep score in his last fight but people were saying he should've lost by decision. I stopped being a fan of his years ago. He was too good and skilled to have such boring fights especially considering how good his earlier fights were to watch.
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Blame Greg Jackson
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Idk if its a Greg Jackson thing cause GSP was doing the same thing after he and Jackson stopped working together.

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I disagree with you in that I would love to see him in there today to see if these other guys could ACTUALLY beat GSP. That would be amazing to watch.

Would like to see him against Lawler tho seeing as how he already "beat" Hendricks. I doubt any of those other guys could do more than just hang in there with him.

 

Would be dope to see him come back and get his title again :hat 

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Blame Greg Jackson

Eh, that's the easy excuse people have used a lot. It may be true but he also coaches jones, cerrone, and sanchez. A fighter will fight how he wants to fight.
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