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post #9961 of 34147
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Originally Posted by shogun View Post


Why would they brag? I never said they would. Looking at other people's wins doesn't stop his from not being impressive. ufc likes to keep the contenders away from each other at fw until their first fight against aldo. After they lose to him then they get matched up.

You said "that's nothing to brag about". Well no kidding

 

I don't think the named previous contenders' wins to get their shots were all that much more impressive than Conor's. Kanye shrug 

 

So as you said, the UFC likes to keep contenders away from each other at FW until they face Aldo. Pretty much what's happening to Conor too

post #9962 of 34147
Nothing to brag about is a common expression though. That's why I typed it. I don't need to see anymore comparisons of his wins versus other people's wins. It didn't really matter who mcgregor beat, it mattered that he won. As long as he kept winning he would get a crack at the belt. He gets a lot of attention and is a fresh fight for aldo.
post #9963 of 34147
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Originally Posted by shogun View Post

Nothing to brag about is a common expression though. That's why I typed it. I don't need to see anymore comparisons of his wins versus other people's wins. It didn't really matter who mcgregor beat, it mattered that he won. As long as he kept winning he would get a crack at the belt. He gets a lot of attention and is a fresh fight for aldo.

The last part of your post I agree with 100% which is why I haven't had an issue with him getting the shot from the jump

 

Frankie got cut, I admit that but I'm not that upset over it

post #9964 of 34147
Edgar's one of my favorite fighters but I don't see him beating Aldo in a rematch. I think he should move up again to 155. A lot of fresh fights for him. I think he can get the belt back but terminator dos anjos looks unstoppable right now.
post #9965 of 34147
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I don't know man, Frankie is just so damn small. These LW's these days don't play and are huge/fast. Cowboy, RDA, Pettis and Khabib :x LW is by far the craziest division and it goes much deeper than them 4

 

I think BW might lowkey be the option for Frankie if he can't get the strap at 145

post #9966 of 34147
I would think Frankie could make 135. He would probably get fast tracked there too.

At 155, it is a rough road to get even a title shot
post #9967 of 34147
Frankie is small but I like him at FW and LW. BW seems like a hell of a cut. There's interesting matchups for him at LW and FW. Just like there's interesting fights for Faber at BW/FW or Bendo at LW/WW.
post #9968 of 34147
Curious to see how his wrestling would hold up against khabib's. He's strong enough to grapple with the big lightweights.
post #9969 of 34147
Crazy that Ben went to 170 and Frankie can probably get to 135 and fought dude to a standstill.

Why he's always been one of my favorite fighters. For competing at a high level while undersized.

Got rocked by Gray (another BIG LW) and survived.

That why I give him the best shot against Conor. Because he's taken BIG shots from much bigger guys and survived.

That and because his movement is unique for MMA and I think will give him problems.

Some suggest.....the UFC also know he's Conor's toughest challenge laugh.gif

I'd still like to see one more Aldo fight for him though. His confidence is sky high right now (he was coming off L's the first time he fought him).

Look at how much better Mendes did in his 2nd fight after getting KO'd in the first.

If Frankie improves even half as much, he can take a W.
post #9970 of 34147
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There is zero doubt in my mind that Frankie could outpoint Aldo. Frankie seems to be at another level with his footwork right now which is insane to think about

 

I also without a doubt think that Frankie could handle the likes of Gil and Melendez at 155

 

I don't know if Conor wants those wrestling problems from Frankie and Mendes tbh. Stylistically, Aldo is much better for Conor. Mendes was able to put up solid striking numbers in a 5 round battle. That is a plus for Conor

post #9971 of 34147
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Originally Posted by Vincent Van Ho View Post

You clearly said you don't think there's any difference between the ring size regardless of what the stats say. That's fine

I'm not trying to convince you otherwise, I was simply posting the stats for those who were interested in the studies. I am not trying to debate you on the merit of the studies at all or trying to change your mind

I was responding to ur first part.

Until the variables are exactly the same I don't buy into this nonsense that 5 feet in a 30 foot cage makes a huge difference, don't care how many stats they show its not accurate cuz there are different variables at play
post #9972 of 34147
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I was responding to ur first part.

Until the variables are exactly the same I don't buy into this nonsense that 5 feet in a 30 foot cage makes a huge difference, don't care how many stats they show its not accurate cuz there are different variables at play

Dude, alright I get that. I am not arguing that point at all. How many times I gotta repeat this though

 

Calling it nonsense is stupid though :lol don't agree with you there but many of us will probably agree that the smaller cages have made fights more exciting

 

The WEC was always exciting and I think the cage played into that

post #9973 of 34147
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Originally Posted by Vincent Van Ho View Post

Dude, alright I get that. I am not arguing that point at all. How many times I gotta repeat this though

Calling it nonsense is stupid though laugh.gif  don't agree with you there but many of us will probably agree that the smaller cages have made fights more exciting

The WEC was always exciting and I think the cage played into that

And I think calling it bs is nonsense. If u got jon Fitch fighting in a 30 ft cage versus Rockhold in a 25 ft cage I wonder which cage sz will have a higher finishing percentage...like the cage sz is what is making a difference...

U keep saying ur not trying to argue the point but keep arguing for it.
post #9974 of 34147
I didn't even know there was an MMA section in here... Beautiful... I just want to say No Gay Jesus. Goodnight
post #9975 of 34147
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And I think calling it bs is nonsense. If u got jon Fitch fighting in a 30 ft cage versus Rockhold in a 25 ft cage I wonder which cage sz will have a higher finishing percentage...like the cage sz is what is making a difference...

U keep saying ur not trying to argue the point but keep arguing for it.

I'm not trying to argue, you are. I'm presenting information and letting others view it for themselves, I said that from the jump when I posted the studies. I don't care whether or not people want the smaller cage, I do, but if you or others don't I won't try to persuade anyone. I'm just posting information 

 

You are seriously slow as hell dude

post #9976 of 34147
Conor + Chael about to be on Sportscenter.
post #9977 of 34147
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Conor + Chael about to be on Sportscenter.
good God.. how did that go
post #9978 of 34147
Was pretty mellow really. More of cutesy bit with Jay Crawford seeing how long he can hang with Conor.

Chael breaking down the fight a bit and playing Aldo with Conor in the cage.

He was his usual confident self but not over the top.

I will say....because of this, I realized what a great ambassador he can be for the sport when he's not overdoing it.

Suit was clean. Charismatic. Personable.
post #9979 of 34147
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Originally Posted by illphillip View Post

Was pretty mellow really. More of cutesy bit with Jay Crawford seeing how long he can hang with Conor.

Chael breaking down the fight a bit and playing Aldo with Conor in the cage.

He was his usual confident self but not over the top.

I will say....because of this, I realized what a great ambassador he can be for the sport when he's not overdoing it.

Suit was clean. Charismatic. Personable.

Chaels a tool. Point blank period. Not the guy you want repping the sport. Especially after getting caught cheating 57 times. (Not that the ufc or their fans care)
post #9980 of 34147
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Chaels a tool. Point blank period. Not the guy you want repping the sport. Especially after getting caught cheating 57 times. (Not that the ufc or their fans care)

You are in the minority here. Chael has a huge following and will continue as long as he's around... Everyone is taking some kind of ped so can you really even hold that against him
post #9981 of 34147
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Chaels a tool. Point blank period. Not the guy you want repping the sport. Especially after getting caught cheating 57 times. (Not that the ufc or their fans care)

You are in the minority here. Chael has a huge following and will continue as long as he's around... Everyone is taking some kind of ped so can you really even hold that against him

MMA fans are more forgiving of this stuff that the general public.

As an ambassador you need to be more on the squeaky clean side. Chael has his doping, his federal case, his diet racism comments in the past and him making light of his doping.

Dude ain't the best fit to push it to the general public
post #9982 of 34147
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Originally Posted by RustyShackleford View Post

MMA fans are more forgiving of this stuff that the general public.

As an ambassador you need to be more on the squeaky clean side. Chael has his doping, his federal case, his diet racism comments in the past and him making light of his doping.

Dude ain't the best fit to push it to the general public

I just think MMA needs that entertainment value to get to the next level. Not full on WWE but the trash talk, controversies add to the entertainment in my eyes. Almost like WWE but actual real fighting.
post #9983 of 34147
chael doesn't represent the sport anyway. At least not anymore. He's now just an analyst. He talks well which is why espn hired him.
post #9984 of 34147
I think Phil was talking about Conor.

and if he was, I agree.

i despised Conor when he first blew up and starting his trash talking to Poirier.

I watched a lot of his interviews lately and am actually growing quite fond of him. Confident guy and is really just trying to hype up the fight to bring in the $$.

Going to root for him against Aldo. The FW division can use some shaking up.
post #9985 of 34147
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Originally Posted by RustyShackleford View Post

MMA fans are more forgiving of this stuff that the general public.

As an ambassador you need to be more on the squeaky clean side. Chael has his doping, his federal case, his diet racism comments in the past and him making light of his doping.

Dude ain't the best fit to push it to the general public

I just think MMA needs that entertainment value to get to the next level. Not full on WWE but the trash talk, controversies add to the entertainment in my eyes. Almost like WWE but actual real fighting.

To be honest, the "MMA get to the next level" ship has sailed IMO.
post #9986 of 34147
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To be honest, the "MMA get to the next level" ship has sailed IMO.

You may be right... Time will tell
post #9987 of 34147
at this point i think id rather see mendes vs conor
post #9988 of 34147
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To be honest, the "MMA get to the next level" ship has sailed IMO.

You may be right... Time will tell

It probably has passed. Don't see the sport getting much bigger than it is now. Sad to see there isn't even a major organization in Japan anymore. Don't think there's any relevant Japanese fighters around either.
post #9989 of 34147
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It probably has passed. Don't see the sport getting much bigger than it is now. Sad to see there isn't even a major organization in Japan anymore. Don't think there's any relevant Japanese fighters around either.

True.. I miss pride...
post #9990 of 34147
Pride's production was so great. From the posters, to commercials, the entrances, and the screaming lady announcer. ufc's production value is so basic and boring.
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