Any Pre-med students, med students or residents on Niketalk that got useful advice for your NT breth

where overseas if you dont mind me asking?

Nah...I'm in the Philippines. Sure it rains a lot and its too damn hot, but my folks were born here and I've always wanted to spend some time here and explore so I'm kinda killing two birds with one stone
 
I personally dont see much need to be sleep deprived in under grad esp if you prepare correctly. Also there is no reason to smoke cigs. Alot of people do drink coffee. I never started with the coffee or energy drink think.

Also in recent years they have really changed and tightened the work hour restrictions on how long residents can work esp for interns. In my intern year I would work over 30 hrs straight and still do work up to 24 hrs straight but the interns are no longer allowed to work those extended shifts without taking i believe a 6 hour sleep break.
I understand your point of worrying about someone working on you who is sleep deprived but many of the seasoned veterans would pose an alternative complaint i hear this esp from surgery attending in that they feel that many residents who graduate are no longer properly prepared in that they havent seen or done enough surgeries to be totally competent for when they get out and practice on their own. These older surgeons believe it is due to them not having spent enough time in the hospital ie the 100-120+ hour work weeks they used to do as residents.

Interesting perspective - thanks for posting.

Yeah - perhaps the unhealthiness I saw in pre-med students was a result of an overall culture of stress than the pre-med field. That said, I thought the lack of healthiness was especially prevalent and more glaring in pre-med students.

I guess I wasn't thinking about that trade-off. Still, my counterpoint to that is that a lesser number of surgeries practiced well-rested is equivalent to a larger amount of surgeries on ****** sleep.

the solution is actually longer training and competency based advancement which is the route most residency programs are heading in. overworked and under-rested residents are unsafe period. ask libby zion's family.
 
Haven't read through the entire thread but I'll give my info and then you can ask specific questions

Top 5 UG. Science GPA 3.0 (overall 3.2). MCAT 33. URM

Went to a decent med school (not top 50). Got interviews at several top 20's but got waitlisted. In hindsight I would have applied to more in 25-50 range.

Now doing Radiology at one of the most competitive programs in Cali. 3.94 GPA, AOA, Step 1 in the 260s. I learned from my mistakes in college and busted my butt.

Don't stress if you don't get into a name school, you can match well from any US allopathic. We send ppl to Stanford, Hopkins, UCSF, Yale etc.

If your GPA is low like mine was your MCAT and school can compensate. If you must, do a post-bac to ensure you get into a US allopathic medical school
 
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Was pre-med, but was not "about that life" and now work for a biotech company
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I began college with dreams of med school, but they never panned out. I'm studying programming now. My advice is to always have a viable plan B, because chances are your gonna need it :lol:
That's a pretty damn viable plan B. I regret not taking more programming classes in college despite me loving my job and career prospects.

Man I regret not doing it sooner. I'll graduate with a double major in comp sci and molec bio, and probably never use the bio :lol:


I got a couple friends in med school in Antigua, another in St. Something and one in Guadalajara, Mexico. That admission rate to US schools is harsh :lol:
 
Haven't read through the entire thread but I'll give my info and then you can ask specific questions

Top 5 UG. Science GPA 3.0 (overall 3.2). MCAT 33. URM

Went to a decent med school (not top 50). Got interviews at several top 20's but got waitlisted. In hindsight I would have applied to more in 25-50 range.

Now doing Radiology at one of the most competitive programs in Cali. 3.94 GPA, AOA, Step 1 in the 260s. I learned from my mistakes in college and busted my butt.

Don't stress if you don't get into a name school, you can match well from any US allopathic. We send ppl to Stanford, Hopkins, UCSF, Yale etc.

If your GPA is low like mine was your MCAT and school can compensate. If you must, do a post-bac to ensure you get into a US allopathic medical school


Strong Work man. Your med school stats are mirror images of mine. Those 2 Bs i got still haunt my dreams. Ok maybe they dont.

What year are you in rads? How do you like it so far?
 
Haven't read through the entire thread but I'll give my info and then you can ask specific questions

Top 5 UG. Science GPA 3.0 (overall 3.2). MCAT 33. URM

Went to a decent med school (not top 50). Got interviews at several top 20's but got waitlisted. In hindsight I would have applied to more in 25-50 range.

Now doing Radiology at one of the most competitive programs in Cali. 3.94 GPA, AOA, Step 1 in the 260s. I learned from my mistakes in college and busted my butt.

Don't stress if you don't get into a name school, you can match well from any US allopathic. We send ppl to Stanford, Hopkins, UCSF, Yale etc.

If your GPA is low like mine was your MCAT and school can compensate. If you must, do a post-bac to ensure you get into a US allopathic medical school


Strong Work man. Your med school stats are mirror images of mine. Those 2 Bs i got still haunt my dreams. Ok maybe they dont.

What year are you in rads? How do you like it so far?

My only B was in OB :lol:

I'm a R1. Love it so far.

What fellowship you going into?
 
got accepted into Albany School of Pharmacy and LIU, not med but close enough for me :lol: just have to pass this Orgo final and I'm in there
 
question:

I was thinking about putting off apps for a year later so that I could get my GPA up a little my senior year and have a gap year for more ECs before I apply. Should I just apply this upcoming cycle and save the year?

I won't get into as good a school probably but reading what youngdoc wrote got me thinking it's not necessarily as important as long as I do well in med school. I'm pretty confident I could get in this upcoming cycle, but applying a year later will make me a stronger applicant for more competitive schools.

Thoughts?
 
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got accepted into Albany School of Pharmacy and LIU, not med but close enough for me :lol: just have to pass this Orgo final and I'm in there

I have an interview with Albany next month for their pharmacy program. Did you decide where you wanna go yet? :nerd: :nerd:
 
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I was thinking about putting off apps for a year later so that I could get my GPA up a little my senior year and have a gap year for more ECs before I apply. Should I just apply this upcoming cycle and save the year?

I won't get into as good a school probably but reading what youngdoc wrote got me thinking it's not necessarily as important as long as I do well in med school. I'm pretty confident I could get in this upcoming cycle, but applying a year later will make me a stronger applicant for more competitive schools.

Thoughts?

Some of the best advice i ever got was from my cousin who is now a doctor and graduated from Sophie Davis. It was so simple, but it struck me......"it's not a race."
If you believe that taking that year off can improve your GPA, get you some research hours under your belt, and maybe some more volunteer hours then do it.

W.e you do though, like someone else said, APPLY EARLY!
 
Some of the best advice i ever got was from my cousin who is now a doctor and graduated from Sophie Davis. It was so simple, but it struck me......"it's not a race."
If you believe that taking that year off can improve your GPA, get you some research hours under your belt, and maybe some more volunteer hours then do it.

W.e you do though, like someone else said, APPLY EARLY!

When did your cousin graduate from Sophie? I might know him :lol:

Most of the people I knew in undergrad was in Sophie. Great program. Very tough to get in.
 
got accepted into Albany School of Pharmacy and LIU, not med but close enough for me :lol: just have to pass this Orgo final and I'm in there

I have an interview with Albany next month for their pharmacy program. Did you decide where you wanna go yet? :nerd: :nerd:
Albany School of Pharmacy or University at Albany? I'm leaning towards Albany because I don't want to commute in the city, may actually move up there since housing is dirt cheap and work in the hospital directly up the block from Sage College. Good luck on the interview in the future bro.
 
Don't want to make a new thread for this so I'll post it here,

any tips on doing well on Step 1? How did you guys prep (and how long did you guys prep for) or if anything in particular stood out to you on the exam that someone in Basic Sciences wouldn't really know about? Any insight would be great!
 
got accepted into Albany School of Pharmacy and LIU, not med but close enough for me :lol: just have to pass this Orgo final and I'm in there

I have an interview with Albany next month for their pharmacy program. Did you decide where you wanna go yet? :nerd: :nerd:
Albany School of Pharmacy or University at Albany? I'm leaning towards Albany because I don't want to commute in the city, may actually move up there since housing is dirt cheap and work in the hospital directly up the block from Sage College. Good luck on the interview in the future bro.

I dont think SUNY Albany has a pharmD program anymore. I have an interview with ACPHS. Would be awesome to attend the same pharmacy program with a fellow NTer :lol:

The pharmD program at LIU is really good. I know some family that graduated from there and they found jobs within a couple of months, making 6 figures clean now. It was my #1 choice since I can commute from home. Only gripe is that their campus is in a pretty bad neighborhood and tuition is crazy.

I got waitlisted there last year :smh:
 
i'm dental but the best piece of advice i can give you is apply EARLY. i'm assuming youre trying for next cycle since its very late for this cycle now.
applying early makes all the difference in the world, esp if your starts are not the best.
since spots are limited as spots get taken during the cycle, when you apply late, you have to be more or less a stellar applicant.

if youre in undergrad and don't already have research experience, now would be the time to start so you can include it in your app.
prepare well for the MCATS. don't take a blind exam, if you can take it once and score well... that looks really good.
finally, if MD doesn't work out for you, consider DO before even thinking about Caribbean options.

Good luck brotha. learn as much as you can about the process before applying... it makes a world of difference. talk to advisors etc.
I am dental as well. Are you planning on applying next cycle? If so what schools? I am currently in a masters program trying to improve my GPA (Sci GPA was 3.1).

I actually talked to the Dean of a medical school in DC and he told me something that made me look at applying early differently. He said that historically individuals who apply early (first day of the application cycle) have 3.8 and above GPA's so it is not always beneficial to apply early. He said to apply smart. If your GPA is not as competitive then you want to submit your app with individuals who look like you do (stat wise). I just thought that was interesting since all I ever hear when talking about the application process it apply early. Thoughts anyone?
 
If you apply early and aren't as competitive (GPA = 3.5+), they will hold off on your application until they receive more applicants that are in the same range as you.

Then once they received enough of the lower tier (GPA = 3.0+) applicants they make their decisions from there.
 
Then in that case does applying early even matter since every applicant will look the same stastically?

Also for individuals who are applying make sure that on your secondary essays you're not just saying what you said in your primary essays. My professor served on an admissions board and said that 50% of the applicants would just summarize their personal statement in their secondarys. Interviews are a important too after you get pass the numbers portion of the process.

Anyone else looking into dental school?
 
Its really not a #s game anymore once you get pass the prerequisite/required items stage. Once they start comparing you to other applicants I know most grad schools have a point system where they rank GPAs, extracurricular, standardized tests, etc. Each applicant basically has a total score.

Dental was my back up option. Have family in the dental field, but i'm too invested in Pharmacy (B.S. Pharmacology/Toxicology , research, volunteer, certificates, etc).

As far the interview goes, once you get the interview everyone is on the same playing field imo. Whether you have a 4.0 or 3.0, you're a foot in with that interview. Just gotta convince them you're a better person than what you seem on paper at that point.
 
Then in that case does applying early even matter since every applicant will look the same stastically?

Also for individuals who are applying make sure that on your secondary essays you're not just saying what you said in your primary essays. My professor served on an admissions board and said that 50% of the applicants would just summarize their personal statement in their secondarys. Interviews are a important too after you get pass the numbers portion of the process.

Anyone else looking into dental school?

Thinkin about Dental. Havent taken my DAT yet. GPA is 3.8 but am worried about DAT..hopefully i can get 20+. What did you score on yours?
 
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