A Forbes article on why more kids should forgo college...

Some people like being cogs in a the wheel and having a steady corporate job.... Safe, low pressure

he's right, though. You can master a trade and start your own business...

I think we all have dreams of having our own business and doing something awesome or challenging...

But the safety net of an easy corporate job somewhat inhibits our creative and ambitious sides...

Pays well enough just to keep you from looking for an alternative...

But I still think college as a necessary evil for many jobs... And if not for anything else, an awesome experience.
 
ILL LEGAL OPERATION said:
"School just a white man's game, and it's ran good."

(c) Clifford Harris, Jr.
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that's actually truer than people realize. The current school system originated in the 19th century in Prussia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_education_system

It was basically a tool of the state to control the population and establish blind obedience.

It's a shame that people who don't get good grades are labeled as stupid while their true potential w/e that may have been will most likely go untapped.

The article has a valid point although i would take anything from a GS mouthpiece with a grain of salt.
 
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The keywords words in this article seem to be USELESS DEGREE. The article seems to down the liberal arts degrees over everything. Which goes back to the seems that stem or bussiness are the only degrees worth a damn anymore.

Also trade schools are looking better depending on the field availability
 
I agree, most of the social sciences are not worth pursuing unless you have a genuine passion for it or are determined to get a masters or PhD in the field. Business and STEM degrees offer more job opportunities if that's what you're looking to get out of college.
 
Imo the problems are in the system and parents.

The system forces you to take a million BS+unrelated courses as opposed to just training you for your career of choice. The price of education is also stupid high. People come out with crazy debt. There should be more federal funds established to subsidize it as opposed to wasting 1.5 trillion advancing the agenda of rich folks in the Middle East. The average student loan debt for a graduate in India is $0 and their economy is booming.

The next problem is parents of 16 year olds telling their child they can be anything as opposed to noticing their child's strengths/weaknesses and knowing of other ways to make it besides college to give them proper advice. I have plenty of friends who went to vocational school, landed union jobs, and are set. And I have plenty of friends that should have done that, went to college, and are screwed.
 
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^^ Exactly..spot on. College isn't for everyone and an individual should consider a cost/benefit analysis of obtaining a degree if they're planning on acquiring debt. Parents and teachers should be honest with a student early on and help them realize their potential strengths and weaknesses to determine a field that suits them. That could be a vocational school that will help them build a marketable trade. Too many kids are being lied to and forced out of guilt to go to college, where they either end up underperforming, obtaining a useless degree, or dropping out. I most witness this from first generation college students, but that's a separate issue itself. The whole educational system is in need of a major overhaul, but the current business model is too profitable to even think it.
 
Flyeed said:
Imo the problems are in the system and parents.

The system forces you to take a million BS+unrelated courses as opposed to just training you for your career of choice. The price of education is also stupid high. People come out with crazy debt. There should be more federal funds established to subsidize it as opposed to wasting 1.5 trillion advancing the agenda of rich folks in the Middle East. The average student loan debt for a graduate in India is $0 and their economy is booming.

The next problem is parents of 16 year olds telling their child they can be anything as opposed to noticing their child's strengths/weaknesses and knowing of other ways to make it besides college to give them proper advice. I have plenty of friends who went to vocational school, landed union jobs, and are set. And I have plenty of friends that should have done that, went to college, and are screwed.
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Couldn't agree more.

Why are students forced to sit down and fill their heads with a bunch of useless BS, instead of actively engaging themselves in subjects they actually want to learn? By the time kids come out of high school/college, their brains are already fried.
 
“We have this misguided notion that the American dream today can only be achieved through a college degree.  So we end up with a class of lazy, entitled kids who party their way through college, don’t learn anything, and end up whining about not being able to find a job that they think they are worthy of,” @GSElevator tells me in an email interview."

BINGO BINGO BINGO BINGO BINGO
 
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This article is based off of one tweet from a parody Twitter account that lampoons water cooler talk at Goldman though. Is Forbes really stooping to that level?

I agree that there are certain trades, which don't require a college degree, and encouraging motivated people to forgo the college degree allows for there to be more talented, driven people in those trades. However, it's kind of insulting to successful tradesmen to imply that any old unmotivated kid is going to be successful. I'd imagine a lot of the same skills that make one successful in college are also necessary to be successful forgoing college.

Also for all the trash people talk about liberal arts majors and their aimless career path, I do think a lot of them get a lot of college intellectually even if their job prospects are pretty bleak. The people I really feel sorry for are the less talented marketing/finance/accounting majors who take a bunch of boring classes and end up in boring jobs. That's why I'm very much pro-sciences. Studying them in college is generally intellectually stimulating and science majors can be quite marketable in terms of career prospects.
 
Fontaine said:
he's right, though. You can master a trade and start your own business...
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He's not right, he seems to be talking out of his Butthole.

An anonymous know it all who works for goldman sachs, same company who swindled people out of millions.

Any self proclaimed know it all can BS behind a keyboard look at this place.

How easy is it to start and own your own business. Even if college isn't the way to go his advice of just get a trade work hard and bam you suddenly will become owner of your own company is ludacris.
 
NYC game said:
He's not right, he seems to be talking out of his Butthole.

An anonymous know it all who works for goldman sachs, same company who swindled people out of millions.

Any self proclaimed know it all can BS behind a keyboard look at this place.

How easy is it to start and own your own business. Even if college isn't the way to go his advice of just get a trade work hard and bam you suddenly will become owner of your own company is ludacris.
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:smh: :smh:
 
TeamJordan79 said:
that's actually truer than people realize. The current school system originated in the 19th century in Prussia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_education_system

It was basically a tool of the state to control the population and establish blind obedience.

It's a shame that people who don't get good grades are labeled as stupid while their true potential w/e that may have been will most likely go untapped.

The article has a valid point although i would take anything from a GS mouthpiece with a grain of salt.
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It's working.

NYC game said:
He's not right, he seems to be talking out of his Butthole.

An anonymous know it all who works for goldman sachs, same company who swindled people out of millions.

Any self proclaimed know it all can BS behind a keyboard look at this place.

How easy is it to start and own your own business. Even if college isn't the way to go his advice of just get a trade work hard and bam you suddenly will become owner of your own company is ludacris.
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Luda?

He didnt imply that would suddenly become owner of your own company. You have to work hard to get to that point.
 
ILL LEGAL OPERATION said:
"School just a white man's game, and it's ran good."

(c) Clifford Harris, Jr.
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TeamJordan79 said:
that's actually truer than people realize. The current school system originated in the 19th century in Prussia.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_education_system

It was basically a tool of the state to control the population and establish blind obedience.

It's a shame that people who don't get good grades are labeled as stupid while their true potential w/e that may have been will most likely go untapped.

The article has a valid point although i would take anything from a GS mouthpiece with a grain of salt.
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I agree.
 
Going to trade school is not going to help the unmotivated kids.I have friends go to trade school after high school and spend more in two years than my 4 year degree. There are just some misguide people in life who are simply not push hard enough to find out what they want to do in life. I personally feel someone can benefit with a college degree depending on their drive and overall experience at the university. 
 
I rather do college than trade school

It's probably more flexible if you want to switch later on in life
 
The only thing i aint like about college was all the bs classes you gotta take just so you can stay there longer and give the school more money :smh: ...just give me my main classes for my major, **** Film, and Intro to Women's Studies
 
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The people I really feel sorry for are the less talented marketing/finance/accounting majors who take a bunch of boring classes and end up in boring jobs.
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PEW PEW PEW!! SHOTS FIRED!

But honestly though, I may be one of those people that got one of those degrees and ended up in a boring job. Thank the Lord I didn't get married yet, cuz I'd probably still be in that job, but now I'm balls deep in grad school for something related, but a lot more enriching.
 
I don't think people who say this are saying don't go to college, just do the right thing for you. If you're a dope *** plumber because you grew up around a dope *** plumber, why try to get a degree with a 2.8 gpa just because you think you're gonna get paid? build your own ****. On the same token if you have no skill, no aim, by all means go to school and learn something. Don't knock being a corporate cog though, it's fairly easy and pays well. People assume you can't be happy working corporate.
 
:lol: this thread again. "Don't go to college" is the new race thread on here.
 
Rell826 said:
 
:lol: this thread again. "Don't go to college" is the new race thread on here.
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it's not a hip trend, the world is just changing

the occupy wall street movement imo is what really brought questioning college to mainstream america
 
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