"Be A Man" American Masculinity vol DCAllAmerican

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This doc. looks really interesting.

One of my fav. comedians Bill Burr touches on this topic.



I think that "be a man" stuff was necessary to some extent in the "old days." I think it made people do their roles and keep society functioning.

Life was simpler back then, but now that's hardly the case.

From my very limited understanding of society, society mainly accepts one type of guy, the provider.

Whereas society accepts more types of women than it did in the past. The girly girl, tom boy, I.N.D.E.N.P.E.N.D.E.N.T women, old-fashioned(stay-at-home) women, etc.

Now that life is much more complex than it was in the past, some men don't have to be the providers, display hardness to other men, etc.

Basically, I think society mainly expects one type of masculinity to reign supreme whereas the definition of femininity has become more broad.

Whether the definition of masculinity becoming more broad being a good or bad thing is obviously a matter of opinion.

Maybe if most guys weren't held up to this unrealistic definition of masculinity maybe we wouldn't be at the point where we are today.
 
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Instead, we should be open to all kinds of masculinity being okay. If you do indeed want to be rough and burly, you can, but if you want to be reserved and quiet as a man, you're still a man.

It's something up to us as men to enforce and decide, not women. We get enough of women telling us how/what to be all the time, as the feminine imperative dictates a lot of social and domestic order nowadays.

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all those dude's are Terry Cloth soft.

Kep all the emotions in. The hell is crying going to do about it? Take place in society and be a man. And no, being a man isn't about respect, strength, etc. It's about being a good moral human being who often takes on the gender role of a male. Respect comes after that.

tired of all these dude's looking for excuses and I'm tired of what today's men are becoming.
 
Vid gonna further the American soft-icity.

Being a man should mean be responsible/ accountable
 
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Im just gonna say, be who you want, but be able to stand up for yourself, and learn how to be in control of your life. Being a man isn't a physical thing, it's a mental and emotional thing. It's not about how many sexual partners you've been with, how many conquests you've had. And don't think that hittin the gym or carrying a gun is gonna make more manly either. Of course you need to defend and take of yourself. But it's really how you are able to mentally maneuver through the world, physicality is there to some extent, but it's all mental and emotional. Being able to generate a personal ecosystem of positive and well balanced emotions is being a man, knowing how to feel, and when to feel it at all times. Know how to express and articulate your thoughts and feelings. It's ok to cry, just don't b**** about whatever you going through, I have done it when it was the only thing left to do, then I kept it movin, not dwelling on it. Don't let external factors dictate how you feel, you have to dominate your focus and concentration. Use your brain. Your identity, your sense of self should come from within. It's when some people act a certain way around certain people, and act in totally contrary way around another set. They have no identity, they don't know who they are and they struggle with it. Develop a strong personal moral compass that will guide you to differentiate right from wrong. Work on and condition yourselves people, develop as human beings, that's how you become a man. Create an armor for your self that can deal with the blows of fate.
 
Im just gonna say, be who you want, but be able to stand up for yourself, and learn how to be in control of your life. Being a man isn't a physical thing, it's a mental and emotional thing. It's not about how many sexual partners you've been with, how many conquests you've had. And don't think that hittin the gym or carrying a gun is gonna make more manly either. Of course you need to defend and take of yourself. But it's really how you are able to mentally maneuver through the world, physicality is there to some extent, but it's all mental and emotional. Being able to generate a personal ecosystem of positive and well balanced emotions is being a man, knowing how to feel, and when to feel it at all times. Know how to express and articulate your thoughts and feelings. It's ok to cry, just don't b**** about whatever you going through, I have done it when it was the only thing left to do, then I kept it movin, not dwelling on it. Don't let external factors dictate how you feel, you have to dominate your focus and concentration. Use your brain. Your identity, your sense of self should come from within. It's when some people act a certain way around certain people, and act in totally contrary way around another set. They have no identity, they don't know who they are and they struggle with it. Develop a strong personal moral compass that will guide you to differentiate right from wrong. Work on and condition yourselves people, develop as human beings, that's how you become a man. Create an armor for your self that can deal with the blows of fate.
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I would be interested to see the general thought this documentary pushes. I do think that masculinity is fading in our country, as highlighted throughout this thread. But there are varying factors to consider when we take a look at the shift in gender roles in the last 50 years, alone.
 
The standard of manliness has basically bottomed out, it's pitiful. We live in a society that has become so concerned with being politically correct that gender roles, gender rolls that have evolved into our very brains and DNA over THOUSANDS of years, have been blurred to the point that they barely exist.

There's a general vibe these days that a real man is a man who's expressive of his emotions without regard for who sees it, that it's okay to be weak, that what makes a real man is not caring about being a real man. And that's nonsense.

Being a real man isn't about being nice to people and doing good things. That's just being a good person. "there's a difference in being a good man, and good at being a man"

Men and women are not equal. They haven't been since day one. However humans came about is not important, what's important is how we got to where we are today. Top of the food chain. And we got here because of our gender roles.
When I say men and women are not equal, I'm not saying men are better than women. We're different. We have genetic skill sets that help us excel in different areas in life. Quite frankly, it's the stereotypes of men and women that hold the most truth. In my opinion anyway.

I don't think there is a battle of the sexes anymore, just a war against men.
 
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It's odd to see so many people being entirely supportive of the things that this documentary is speaking against.

I could have guessed that though.
 
The movie seems to be talking not so much about masculinity, but specifically hyper masculinity which is something I do think is an issue and needs to be talked about. Its interesting to me because I really notice it in the Black American community and it has a way of perpetuating itself through peer pressure and even with women who want or are attracted to hyper masculine males.


In his 2002 book Soul Babies: Black Popular Culture and the Post-Soul Aesthetic, Mark Anthony Neal states that black masculinity became synonymous with a unified black identity during the Civil Rights Movement. Neal claims that the hypermasculinity translated as violence within the black community to protect from violence directed at the black community from white America. Black queers and women were sometimes censured outright in an effort to merge black identity with masculinity. Huey P. Newton, in an effort to improve ties, wrote an essay to advocate for a stronger alliance between black political organizations and the women and gay members of their community. In it, he admitted that this popularity of hypermasculinity drives a tendency towards violence and silencing of women and gay men, which didn't permit these marginalized members to become a part of the black identity.[i/]
 
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The movie seems to be talking not so much about masculinity, but specifically hyper masculinity which is something I do think is an issue and needs to be talked about. Its interesting to me because I really notice it in the Black American community and it has a way of perpetuating itself through peer pressure and even with women who want or are attracted to hyper masculine males.

all of this.
 
Im just gonna say, be who you want, but be able to stand up for yourself, and learn how to be in control of your life. Being a man isn't a physical thing, it's a mental and emotional thing. It's not about how many sexual partners you've been with, how many conquests you've had. And don't think that hittin the gym or carrying a gun is gonna make more manly either. Of course you need to defend and take of yourself. But it's really how you are able to mentally maneuver through the world, physicality is there to some extent, but it's all mental and emotional. Being able to generate a personal ecosystem of positive and well balanced emotions is being a man, knowing how to feel, and when to feel it at all times. Know how to express and articulate your thoughts and feelings. It's ok to cry, just don't b**** about whatever you going through, I have done it when it was the only thing left to do, then I kept it movin, not dwelling on it. Don't let external factors dictate how you feel, you have to dominate your focus and concentration. Use your brain. Your identity, your sense of self should come from within. It's when some people act a certain way around certain people, and act in totally contrary way around another set. They have no identity, they don't know who they are and they struggle with it. Develop a strong personal moral compass that will guide you to differentiate right from wrong. Work on and condition yourselves people, develop as human beings, that's how you become a man. Create an armor for your self that can deal with the blows of fate.
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All of this seems flawed.

Hyper masculinity is an issue, but outright assualt on masculinity as a whole isn't an answer.

My thoughts exactly. Ive noticed it a lot in commercials recently. The male is typecast as an idiot and the wives are always going after their infantile minded husbands.
 
All of this seems flawed.

Hyper masculinity is an issue, but outright assualt on masculinity as a whole isn't an answer.

My thoughts exactly. Ive noticed it a lot in commercials recently. The male is typecast as an idiot and the wives are always going after their infantile minded husbands.

Yeah, my mom pointed this out to me before (my parents are immigrants). From the disney channel shows I would watch as a youngster and to shows/commercials today it's always that same situation
 
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^ damn i never put two and two together.

But if anyone can add more to the black hyper masculinity thing. Id be much obliged.
 
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