"Be A Man" American Masculinity vol DCAllAmerican

Having humility/empathy yet truculent when provoked is the way I try to roll/preach. Don't nobody want to roll with a cry baby or someone that got something to prove..
You front too hard, you'll be locked up or 6ft. If you're too charmin soft, this world is going to eat you up..
You gotta find the balance in between.
 
It's so funny how different people were raised. I personally like how I was raised, generally don't let those outside your close circle know your problems, never let em see you weak. Am I right or wrong? Time will tell. I guess of I breakdown and end up in jail for exploding at the wrong time then ill know I was wrong, but I don't really understand what 'expires your emotions' means. I think crying, but I also think telling someone to '**** off' is also expressing your emotions, yet that doesn't seem to be what people mean when they say it. I think I'm well adjusted, but that's just me.
 
#ntextremes

You're either Rambo strong, never cry and want to fight all the time...

Or punk Charmin soft... Wearing pastel colored blouses and crying at lifetime movies.
 
Why can't men be complex enough to be tough and assertive when necessary and sensitive and caring when necessary? It's a dumb idea that men or people for that matter must fit into one box that is easily categorized. I haven't seen the documentary, but I'm guessing from the trailer that the message is that men don't ever need to be violent or aggressive and that's ********. We are a civilized society now, but it was not always that way and there's no guarantee that it always will be. So if we teach men "hey, you no longer need to be tough because the world isn't like that anymore" and **** hits the fan and someone has to step up and protect their family, doesn't it make sense that the men (who are unable to reproduce) should do so?

Our gender roles are defined by nature and have evolved a bit over time, but we take our roles, women and men alike, based on our ability to fill them. Men are, generally speaking, naturally stronger than women physically. Men can provide sperm, but can't give birth. Men can't breastfeed. So when a child is born one parent must be the nurturer and one must be the hunter and provider. It's that ******g simple. Why are we pretending that it's something else? Of course there are ******** that take "manning up" to extremes, but there are women that take their roles to the extreme also. Does that mean that there should now be a campaign to have all men fall under one emotional disposition? :smh: If I'm wrong about the intent of the documentary, welp, I'll take my attack on it back, but I won't take my disgust with the feminization of men back.

It's quite possible that there will come a day when men need to "man up" and there won't be any tough men left to do it. **** that.
 
Fontaine said:
#ntextremes

You're either Rambo strong, never cry and want to fight all the time...

Or punk Charmin soft... Wearing pastel colored blouses and crying at lifetime movies.
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I don't get it either...It's like people don't see the practicality and function of being a fluid individual, everything must be rigid and static with them.
 
you guys are weird, i forget that most of yall do things only for the sole purpose of giving an illusion you are cool or are tough.

individuality is out the window, everyone is sensitive or homophobic.

merry x-mas ladies.
 
man that video is terrible yall should take pride in being a man aint even about what other people might think of you who gives a ****?

respecting yourself >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

im alpha im alpha as **** :pimp: masculinity >>>>>>>>>>>>>>

yall betas can be betas though **** out the way :pimp:
 
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Bruh that Ric Flair video is amazing.

But dudes should be multidimensional.

Anybody who's just one way all the time is pretending. Can't trust a person like that because they're worried about perception more than reality. Sometimes there's real life **** that's gotta be handled and you might run into a soft dude scared to break a nail or a hard dude afraid to look uncool or not tough. Either way I stay away from both types.
 
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We are all being conditioned to be the same.

The push for "equality" between men and women is more about making both sexes the same, not about both sexes being equal and still different. 

Society and "the powers that be" want unindividualized equality. If that is obtained, people are easier to control. There then can be "standardized" control methods. 

Empowering women and the demasculization of men further reduces any threats while still making people the same. 

*For the record, these thoughts come from a book I am reading that was written in 1956. I think the author (Erich Fromm, The Art of Loving) was on to something. 
 
I just don't understand what is so bad about a dude expressing himself or showing some emotion when we he get angry/heated on a tough situation? I said this on a thread before, but I was raised by my mom. I agree that us men are suppose to be the provider and the rock of the household and so forth. It just frustrates me when people (preferably women ) have super high expectations on what a man is suppose to act. If I was to express my emotion on a serious issue, I would be considered "Soft", "Cry baby", and etc. Why can't we just be our own person and let it be.. People try so hard to portray on what society tells them to be, Shut the hell up and do you, bottom line! (Generally speaking, no shots at anyone here in this thread)
 
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FDUB said:
I just don't understand what is so bad about a dude expressing himself or showing some emotion when we get angry/heated? I said this on a thread before, but I was raised by my mom. I agree that us men are suppose to be the provider and the rock of the household and so forth. It just frustrates me when people (preferably women ) have super high expectations on what a man is suppose to act. If I was to express my emotion on a serious issue, I would be considered "Soft", "Cry baby", and etc. Why can't we just be our own person and let it be.. People try so hard to portray on what society tells them to be, Shut the hell up and do you, bottom line! (Generally speaking, no shots at anyone here in this thread)
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you gotta learn to not give dambs when it comes to people telling you what a man should be... ESPECIALLY a bird...

like i said... i've had chicks try and pull that on me... more times than not, its some psychological games they're trying to play...

you gotta be a strong dude to not give dambs about someone questioning your manhood... you gotta be strong AND confident...

i think the reason why men have to control their emotions more is because they're more destructive when they get mad... a mad man can do MUCH more damage than a mad woman...

but its gone too far to where you cant even acknowledge your discomfort....

as a man... you gotta be able to recognize your feelings... let them run its course... then recover from them in a a timely manner...

this inlcudes breakups, missed job promotions, confrontations, ladies, and life in general.
 
I find it hilarious that it's ok to pretty much dress like women, but damn you if you cry! Lol
 
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Fontaine said:
you gotta learn to not give dambs when it comes to people telling you what a man should be... ESPECIALLY a bird...

like i said... i've had chicks try and pull that on me... more times than not, its some psychological games they're trying to play...

you gotta be a strong dude to not give dambs about someone questioning your manhood... you gotta be strong AND confident...

i think the reason why men have to control their emotions more is because they're more destructive when they get mad... a mad man can do MUCH more damage than a mad woman...

but its gone too far to where you cant even acknowledge your discomfort....

as a man... you gotta be able to recognize your feelings... let them run its course... then recover from them in a a timely manner...

this inlcudes breakups, missed job promotions, confrontations, ladies, and life in general.
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That's the point, I am who I am and no one is going to change that. Especially, a bird. I just hate it when they questioned it, like we aren't human that isn't suppose to show any emotion..
 
some well thought out posts in here.

my response to the documentary trailer...

1. this woman acting like the world being feminized is our savior is just spitting horse ****. imo the big difference has come from the internet. most of us grew up on media that was angry and full of rage, and hypermasculine representations of men. the internet has given a place for seemingly regular dudes to have a voice and spread their ideas of right, wrong, and life with one another. and it allowed the uncool kids to be the cool kids and leaders of our culture moving forward. we get to share music that isn't just dudes talking about killing each other like the record labels used to push til we collectively created a demand for something different. and we get to share liberal progressive ideas with one another that either open our eyes, or let us know we're not alone in how we think.

2. There's nothing wrong with teaching a boy to be a man and not be soft. i horseplay and rough up my nephews all the time. in no way does that mean I'm telling them to be a stone with no emotions. you can defend yourself while keeping your cool. you can teach a kid to be tough and caring. just don't be cold and unaffectionate. show him love and he'll grow up more comfortable with his emotions.

Sorry but this documentary is made by soft people who want to make themselves feel better about being soft. And I'm by no means a "tough guy."
 
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People keep saying 'its good to express your feelings'

a) they're really talking sadness, because expressing anger usually means hitting something and they don't seem to want that. In reality, I think their are five emotions, everything else is liberal bs. Apathy, sadness, anger, happy, fear

B) honestly, what's the point. Y'all keep saying 'its good to' but I don't see why it's good to. I, personally, don't feel good when I cry, for whatever reason, I feel better when I'm left alone to reflect, but everyone says 'just cry let it out' I'm like 'for what?' As far as I'm concerned crying is involuntary to me, can't voluntarily cry, but I can tighten that up.

I prefer not crying because crying makes one look weak, looking weak will get you eaten alive in this world. Whether you are weak is different, but you sitting down crying for damn sure makes you look that way and appearance often is > reality.

Watched heat lastnight. Al Pacino comes in, his girl says 'your always so cold, and won't let me in' he responds 'I got three dead bodies on the side of Venice blvd, what do you want me to say?' She's storms off because he's emotionless....to me he just 'expressed his emotions' he apathetic, yet sad and fears he may not figure this out...he ain't have to cry or do anything else, simply stated as a 'matter of fact' as you can, I don't know what else more people want.
 
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UrBetterthenME said:
I'm talking in regards to just displaying emotion period. Too many people, myself included hold emotions inside cause of fear of judgement. If you sad bout something, cry and figure out what you can do to make it better. Why is that a issue?
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You might not like this answer but people view crying as a form of weakness. You can say they shouldn't, but they do. Point blank. We need to be the leaders of the world man. We can't be crying over stuff. Point blank. If we do, do it in the dark when nobody is around.

Women view men that cry often as weaker. There is no denying that. Stay strong, look strong, don't wear your emotions on your sleeve. You can still address those same emotions without showing the world. I think a lot of this is about showing the world your emotions. Why SHOULD I do that. Why should any human do that? Man or woman?

It is a sign of weakness. Not being able to control your emotions in the public view is a sign of weakness. COntrol your emotions, don't surpress them.
 
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You might not like this answer but people view crying as a form of weakness. You can say they shouldn't, but they do. Point blank. We need to be the leaders of the world man. We can't be crying over stuff. Point blank. If we do, do it in the dark when nobody is around.

Women view men that cry often as weaker. There is no denying that. Stay strong, look strong, don't wear your emotions on your sleeve. You can still address those same emotions without showing the world. I think a lot of this is about showing the world your emotions. Why SHOULD I do that. Why should any human do that? Man or woman?

It is a sign of weakness. Not being able to control your emotions in the public view is a sign of weakness. COntrol your emotions, don't surpress them.
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so the president was weak when he cried?

You buggin DC....

Crying =\= weakness...

EXCESSIVE crying maybe... But having something powerful enough to bring a man to tears.... Is him being weak?

That is unhealthy to think that way.
 
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am1x90xnike said:
That's how I was raised, so y'all saying its ok for men to SHOW weakness, even if they were weak, no one but mom knew it. There was no point in us kids knowing...no point in those outside the family knowing.

The only reason to let those besides family and those that can help know your troubles is sympathy seeking, as far as I can see, maybe I'm wrong though, if I am please explain.
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I am with you 500% in this thread man. I am.

I think people can't understand that suppressing your emotions and not displaying your emotions on a sleeve aren't the same thing. What if I have a personal diary. What if I write music? What if I do Yoga. What if I see a counselor? But I don't tell/show the world any of that? Am I still suppressing my emotions?

LEADERS need to be strong for those that are following them. Wearing your emotions on your sleeve isn't a trait of any great leader.
 
Fontaine said:
so the president was weak when he cried?

You buggin DC....

Crying =\= weakness...

EXCESSIVE crying maybe... But having something powerful enough to bring a man to tears.... Is him being weak?

That is unhealthy to think that way.
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Like dude said man, there is a time and place. I am talking about consistently being emotional on a public stage. That is a sign of weakness because you are not in control of the physical reaction of your emotions.

So yes, I am talking about EXCESSIVE.
 
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