OFFICIAL 2014 MIAMI DOLPHINS SEASON THREAD (8-8) : MAYBE NEXT YEAR SMH

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As for what finns was askin on the roster, you can't cut 7 of your defensive starters you weirdo. :lol:

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First off, Daniel Thomas and Marcus Thigpen gotta go. Wasting my roster space.

Agreed. Not sure what happened to Thigpen from his early success in the return game but it seemed like he had nothing of merit this year.

Grimes, franchise. (I'll get to this in a moment)

Yep, precisely what is ideal for this football team

Try to keep at least one of the DT's. Soliai preferably, but I kinda think his agent hates us and he's gone. We'll see. Have to try and keep one.

Is that the Canter guy that keeps going in on the team on twitter?

Clemons, keep, but cheaply.

I'd rather start fresh, find an impact player to pair with Jones. We need playmakers man. We don't need vanilla/invisible players out there

Sadly, nothing can be done about the defense this year, outside of some tweaking.

Nolan Carroll or Dimitri Patterson, one "could" stay, but I think both will be out. It would help, if one of them could stay.

Hope the CB's we just drafted play some relevant snaps next season, otherwise what a trash draft Ireland had

Overall, spend the offseason on O. All of it. Some of you question whether Ryan Tannehill is the guy. Well, find out. Get him a FULL offense. His first year, he had no receivers, this year, he has no OL. Fix that.

So will we watch another 7-8 TD's missed on under throws and over throws? When is that going to be cleaned up? Wallace should've had 12 TD's this season

Sign an OT in FA. Draft another in Rd 1.
Draft OG in Rd 2
Round 3, we might be able to spend on a DT if we lose one or both, but I would prefer to use on offense, but may have no choice.
Round 4, RB or WR
Round 5, WR or TE (if not taken in 4)
Round 6, TE or WR, whichever is left over.

No LB's? Wheeler is terrible, cut him and draft a LB round 3-4

We also have about 20-30 mil in cap space, so we can still add players, and maybe we will, either on offense or defense, but I HOPE this year, they rebuild that offense for Ryan.

Gibson, Keller, Binns, Hartline, all coming off knee injuries. (thankfully Hartline isn't that bad, but still)
Need to add a couple weapons. We had Egnew and Marlon Moore out there in the 4th quarter yesterday. :smh:

Get more depth.

Wallace, Hartline, Gibson, Matthews, and draft pick ?
Miller, Draft pick, Gillislee, or maybe a FA 3rd RB.
Clay, Draft pick, and maybe Keller comes back, or Sims. (need work here)
And of course, revamped oline.

Need a big WR, prefer 6'3"+ to add some height to this short WR corps. All these guys are like 5'11/6'0


The defense is "decent" but not elite enough. But we do have youth. Vernon, Jordan, Taylor, and Davis are all gonna be in year two, they "should" be better and help improve things. But we can't fix the LBer core right away, outside of free agency. (tricky)

It's either Coyle's schemes or lack of talent but Thad Lewis and Geno Smith just beat this defense over the head. Where were any impact plays the last 2 weeks? Our best impact player was on a practice squad a few weeks ago.

So get the offence right, and we can rebuild the defense in 2015. As I stated in the other thread,

2012 QB
2013 DE
2014 OT
2015 CB?????

The 4 crown jewels of building a team. We have 2 down, and we pretty much all expect to take OT in 2014, so that leaves just a CB in a 4 year span. So you franchise Grimes for a year, he's pushing 32 next year, get one solid year from him, and then draft one in the first round 2015. By then, hopefully Taylor and Davis are worthwhile #2-3 corners. (all of this in theory of course)

Wake is the wild card. Part of me would like to flip him, but another part of me says wait til Vernon and Jordan do take that next step so we can have a solid rotation of 3 of them. But these coaches have GOT to get them on the field. Wake was on the bench so much yesterday. :smh:

Bunch of idiots. Play the best players you clowns. Ugh.

I'd love to say this is a sound plan but the GM could say we're going 3-4, we're losing the WCO, etc. We have a better personnel for a 3-4 but whatever, I just want the organizational changes made before thinking players anyways.
 
Yes, it is Canter. He hates us. (cuz he wants big money for Paul of course. )

Can't just cut Wheeler and then put a rookie in his spot. Best case, MAYBE Jenkins can join the group of young kids and play well in year 2. That would be ideal, but using ANOTHER draft pick on LB won't help.

Yes, the D has struggled vs Geno and Thad, but again, look, 19 and 20 points. That's what they gave up. Our fail was the offense not showing up to help out.


Look at it this way, IF Ryan and Wallace get another year together, shouldn't some of those timing things start to clean up? Not even all of them, say they hit 50% more than this year, that's another 4-5 TD's just off that alone. Without even fixing the OL, or RB's, etc. Just them getting right and on the same page.

Now, fix that line, get another RB, another WR, AND get them playin right?????????? Suddenly the O starts to help out a lil bit, right?

So in effect, the D won't be top 5 elite like we hoped, but decent enough to allow only 20 points, figuring we can score more than 20 each game.


My bottom line is simple, we have to upgrade O, and get Ryan all the tools. THEN you find out what he can, or can't, do. If they start to make some of those plays, then we know, he can handle the spot, just need to get good playcalling, and stay healthy.

If we split, 50/50 offense-defense, I'm afraid that's just patching holes in a dam, and not FIXING any problems. FIX the offense, and then the next year, FIX the defense. Don't patch them with 3 draft picks one side, 3 draft picks the other. Use all 6-7 on one side of the ball and get it right. Depth, youth, speed, everything.
 
Yes, it is Canter. He hates us. (cuz he wants big money for Paul of course. )

Ahh thought so. Sucks because I think he's younger than Randy and probably the better one to keep at this point

Can't just cut Wheeler and then put a rookie in his spot. Best case, MAYBE Jenkins can join the group of young kids and play well in year 2. That would be ideal, but using ANOTHER draft pick on LB won't help.

Yeah it would be ideal, I just wish we could go back in time and not flip Burnett and Dansby for Wheeler and Ellerbe. Honestly the old guys played better

Yes, the D has struggled vs Geno and Thad, but again, look, 19 and 20 points. That's what they gave up. Our fail was the offense not showing up to help out.

Very true. 7 points in 2 weeks, just blows my mind with the money on the line

Look at it this way, IF Ryan and Wallace get another year together, shouldn't some of those timing things start to clean up? Not even all of them, say they hit 50% more than this year, that's another 4-5 TD's just off that alone. Without even fixing the OL, or RB's, etc. Just them getting right and on the same page.

Now, fix that line, get another RB, another WR, AND get them playin right?????????? Suddenly the O starts to help out a lil bit, right?

So in effect, the D won't be top 5 elite like we hoped, but decent enough to allow only 20 points, figuring we can score more than 20 each game.

Absolutely. I would implore Wallace and who ever QB's next season to practice practice practice in the offseason together

I just remembered we started out 3-0 including 2 wins on the road. This is just so disappointing.
 
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I'm disappointed in the ending of the season, but not the overall result. When the year began, I said 8-9 wins.

We won 8, and gave away the Patriots game, the Panthers game, the first Bills game, the Tampa game and we "should" have closed out the Ravens game.


We were better coaching away from 11-12 wins. Maybe as the young guys get better, those will start to turn into wins instead of losses.


I never expected playoffs, but when we beat NE and were 8-6 with the lead for the 6 seed, at that point I was hopin for the playoffs, if only to get more work for these young guys. More practice for Ryan, Jordan, Wallace, etc. More reps, more study, more everything.

Now? I just want everyone healthy and ready to go.


Y'all see that stat about Philly last night? Not a single transaction on their 53 man roster from week 1, to week 17. THINK ABOUT THAT. Zero. Not one move.
They had injuries of course, Vick went down, Foles had a concussion, but nothing that made them IR a single player. (Maclin was preseason) That is insane luck. :smh:


Somethin happened the last two games tho. Look at Ryan's stats alone.

For TWO MONTHS, here are his completion %'s and his Passer ratings.

71.4 - 92.6
64.3 - 84.3
62.9 - 84.0
66.7 - 86.4
65.1 - 94.2
60.6 - 95.5
67.6 - 120.6

Look at the last two games.......

37.0 - 45.6
50.0 - 42.1


What the hell happened in 2 weeks? He was BALLIN the last 2 months, we went 5-2 and those two losses were giveaways to the Panthers and Tampa in which we SHOULD have won both. (ironically, those are the games we had turnovers that we brought within the 15 yard line both times, and only got FG's because, Daniel Thomas ****** slow *** sweeps for run plays)

What on earth changed the final 2 weeks? Drunk Christmas parties or somethin? :lol:

There has to be somethin more to that ending. Either the team gassed themselves up after the Pats game, or something worse. It just makes no sense.
 
Opponents for next season:

Home:
New England
Buffalo
New York Jets
Kansas City
San Diego
Green Bay
Minnesota
Baltimore


Road:
New England
Buffalo
New York Jets
Denver
Oakland
Chicago
Detroit
Jacksonville


The Oakland game is in London. The Detroit game, I have seen a lot of chatter that that might be Thanksgiving. We'll see.


See a lot of interest in that schedule tho. Peyton, Brady, Rodgers. Marshall and Bush. Calvin and Peterson.

Really looks about the same as last year. Depending on order and what not, bye weeks, etc etc.
 
:smh: I cannot take another 8-8/7-9 season. God no.

I read that Ross made a statement that he won't rush a decision but can't find further info. Something's gotta change in that office.
 
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Success in the NFL Draft can make or break a NFL team, and no draft class was less productive in 2013 than the Dolphins.

An analysis by The Palm Beach Post shows that the Dolphins draft picks combined for just 866 snaps this year. They were the only team in the NFL that didn’t get more than 1,000 snaps from their rookies. Buffalo linebacker Kiko Alonso himself — a second round pick — was in on every one of Buffalo’s 1,177 defensive snaps.
 
I bet they stole that from me last night.

I tweeted our whole draft didn't have the total snaps that Kiko did. Those jerks. :lol:


But it's really how this group is, and it won't mean anything going forward. Think of all the slow starters we've had. Soliai, Hartline, Jones, Clay, Carroll, eventually they all get on the field and produce. A year or two from now, Jordan, Taylor, Gillislee, Davis may all be playin a bunch. Key is for them to just keep learning and working hard.

That said, we NEED the 2014 class to get out on the damn field. Just once, I want my first 5-6 picks to be out there helpin out FULL TIME. Get some speed, youth, energy out on the field. If there was ever a year to do that, I hope this is it.
 
I bet they stole that from me last night.

I tweeted our whole draft didn't have the total snaps that Kiko did. Those jerks. :lol:

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But it's really how this group is, and it won't mean anything going forward. Think of all the slow starters we've had. Soliai, Hartline, Jones, Clay, Carroll, eventually they all get on the field and produce. A year or two from now, Jordan, Taylor, Gillislee, Davis may all be playin a bunch. Key is for them to just keep learning and working hard.

That said, we NEED the 2014 class to get out on the damn field. Just once, I want my first 5-6 picks to be out there helpin out FULL TIME. Get some speed, youth, energy out on the field. If there was ever a year to do that, I hope this is it.

Have a feeling this team is going OL multiple times so that needs to be a definite.

Dion Jordan and OV need to be rushing the passer together full-time. CB's need to be playing big roles next year, especially Taylor. Would like to see Grimes, Taylor, Davis, and a rookie as the guys. Not sure if there are any FA safeties to replace Clemons but I would look into that.

I've seen all sorts of wacky ideas for replacements so far so I'm just sitting back and watching it unfold. I've seen Shanahan/Kubiak head coach/OC reunion which is absurd. Some have said Bill O'Brien, with others saying he'll go to Houston. Cowher is not coming out that door.

I am focused more on GM. I've seen Casserly and Polian's names come up, like neither of those personally. But at this point, get someone that knows personnel for a vertical passing attack and a hard hitting 3-4 defense.
 
Happy New Year everyone

Actually, not so happy. Schefter has reported that Ireland is likely back in 2014. Also, most are reporting Philbin is safe and Ross is high on him. I am now predicting that guys like Sherman could be let go, and the line coaches/WR coaches and the like. In other words, more of the same. Here's to 7-9 and 8-8 for years to come!
 
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With that said, I really would not be surprised to see Philbin stay... I also wouldn't be surprised to see Ireland stay.
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I don't know why you guys don't listen to me.

Happy New Year fellas. Free Agency and the Draft coming soon.

Finns and CP, I'll be hitting you up very soon.[/COLOR]
 
How the hell did I not know there was an official Dolphins thread before!!? Man I'd rather rant on here than try to on the Miami Herald's dolphins app! Lol
 
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Alex Marvez reporting Sherman likely gone, Philbin and Ireland staying.

I'm losing enthusiasm...
 
Alex Marvez reporting Sherman likely gone, Philbin and Ireland staying.

I'm losing enthusiasm...

How did Ross not have a plan ready just in case? This team should've been an 11-12 win team easily if it wasn't for bad coaching & no 2nd half adjustments. That's not just on the players, that's on the coaching staff. You can see they do not put them in the best positions to succeed at times. Sherman attempts 5-8 runs and because it isn't working he gives up on it and goes pass happy? How did that work out against Buffalo? Coyle just seems like he can never make the right adjustments in moments they're needed, and our D gets exposed. Firing Sherman is a no brainer, and I really don't think Keeping Philbin another year is going to help the team. If they go 8-8 or 7-9 again next season, all Ross has done is stunted the teams development another year rather than cutting ties immediately and starting fresh. We have a ton of talent, we just need good coaching!
 
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No, see, we lost all our games this year because of our quarterback.

Everything was his fault. He's not the one.


Hasn't finns told you that yet? You really should ask him to explain it to you, so you understand.


See, Andy Dalton throws 4 interceptions and wins, it's all Dalton. He's a winner.
Tannehill throws 1 interception and loses, turnovers are killers, he sucks, and he's Chad Henne.


See how that works?

I'll let finns explain it to you so you understand better. :wink:
 
Yeah! Half the people that talk on there are freakin trolls... It reminds me of our forums but just about football! Haha

For sure, some even have multiple screennames


How did Ross not have a plan ready just in case? This team should've been an 11-12 win team easily if it wasn't for bad coaching & no 2nd half adjustments. That's not just on the players, that's on the coaching staff. You can see they do not put them in the best positions to succeed at times. Sherman attempts 5-8 runs and because it isn't working he gives up on it and goes pass happy? How did that work out against Buffalo? Coyle just seems like he can never make the right adjustments in moments they're needed, and our D gets exposed. Firing Sherman is a no brainer, and I really don't think Keeping Philbin another year is going to help the team. If they go 8-8 or 7-9 again next season, all Ross has done is stunted the teams development another year rather than cutting ties immediately and starting fresh. We have a ton of talent, we just need good coaching!

Ross is a poor owner. Honestly he's even worse than Huizenga was. He is a billionaire for making sound business decisions but right now he might as well employ a Careerbuilder chimp as his advisor. Or CP, same thing. :lol:

Coyle and Sherman were unable to make adjustments, both are old school stubborn coaches. Sherman was fired everywhere he's been, GB, A&M, honestly it's a wonder he is employed in the NFL. Not for long. However, let's make no mistake, the LB's played poorly, the secondary was weakened, and the pass rush was anemic. The QB turned the ball over way too much, and the line couldn't block for spit. The fact that the team finished 3rd in the division after spending $110 mil and 5 early picks means it's time to blow it up, but Ross is a fool.
 
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Ross is a poor owner. Honestly he's even worse than Huizenga was. He is a billionaire for making sound business decisions but right now he might as well employ a Careerbuilder chimp as his advisor. Or CP, same thing. :lol:

Coyle and Sherman were unable to make adjustments, both are old school stubborn coaches. Sherman was fired everywhere he's been, GB, A&M, honestly it's a wonder he is employed in the NFL. Not for long. However, let's make no mistake, the LB's played poorly, the secondary was weakened, and the pass rush was anemic. The QB turned the ball over way too much, and the line couldn't block for spit. The fact that the team finished 3rd in the division after spending $110 mil and 5 early picks means it's time to blow it up, but Ross is a fool.

Ross is far from Huizenga and that's not saying much either, but at least he's trying to build a winner & is opening his wallet to do so. Wayne never really did that. Look what he did with the Marlins after their World Series win? Fire sale. Ross is in over his head, but he has people around him that can give him sound advice. Hell he has Tony Dungy & Don Shula as part of one of his councils. He obviously doesn't know the football part of the business, only the business end. He needs to employ sound football minds that can make sure things are ran how they need to be. The sad thing is we may lose out on a lot of potential coaching candidates again if Ross doesn't clean house completely, rather than partially.

The O-Line is terrible, and that needs to be addressed big time. Glad we didn't re-sign Long because look what happened to him in STL. Another season ended on the IR. Ellerbe played better than Wheeler, but look at what Dansby did after being released... Was either one of them really an upgrade over him? No. That needs to be addressed as well. I'm hoping Grimes gets re-signed because dude is a stud. We haven't had a good DB like that since Pat Surtain & Sam Madison!
 
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