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Y'all must never seen Mr above average perform those songs. I remember when that bs were coming home song came out her started a performance at an award show singing that **** and sounded like he was dying. Like I said it might sound good after the engineer pit their touches on it, but let an actual singer have a voice like that live not 1 person would say well its above average.
 
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:smh: Jealousy and envy that's a female trait...


So that explains the intro to the Meek song and who it's at.


Still don't know how DJ Drama has reference tracks. They wouldn't send him reference tracks along with a Drake mixtape, there's more to that story.

Word is Q. Miller records out of Drama's studio sometimes so somehow he got the tracks that way.

The more stuff comes out it just makes Drama and Meek look worse and worse IMO.

If Meek was so "real" why include the verse on RICO, better yet why not get Q Miller to rap the verse on the track himself? Help that young man blow up. That's what a "real" dude woulda done.

Deals fall through all the time, Drama trying to get back and Drake by "secretly" sharing the tracks with Flex and Meek is some snake in the grass ish. You got a problem with that man say it to his face.

As for Drake being cocky...to the victor go the spoils. Y'all really think Drake is any cockier than Kanye has been since day 1 or Jay Z when he was the man?

Just based on the collective silence of rap artists, I think ghost writing is way more common than we want to believe. Meek and Drama underestimated Drake's talent and stardom and got burned and for what? So Drake won't ever be mentioned in the class with Bigge, Pac, and Jay? Seems silly and childish to me.
 
What's the difference between him n future when he's not on auto tune? They both harmonize. On Neva end future sounded acceptable as with drake on find your love. But u hear them ****** sing them joints live and its laughable.
 
Stop it 5. Jordan was elite in every aspect of the game. See now you moving goal posts. We talking about lyricism and marketability. Two aspects that'd make a rapper elite. Jay and Nas have both. Drake has one. Breaking it down to hooks, and production, and whatnot doesn't take away from their lyricism and marketability.
jordan was not elite at everything, pre pippen and phil is proof of that

stop making your own rules to what is top tier, drake been on top for 6 years, hes top tier whether you like it or not 
 
What's the difference between him n future when he's not on auto tune? They both harmonize. On Neva end future sounded acceptable as with drake on find your love. But u hear them ****** sing them joints live and its laughable.
bruh future voice is raspy as ****, nobody takes his singing serious, drake has the potential to be a real singer 
 
Drake might not be the best at everything but to say that he is not Top Tier is pretty dumb.

At the end of the day numbers is what matter. Drake has been puttting those up.
 
Find your love was like 4 years ago though. That was like the first time homie went on a major tour right? He's sounds way better now.

Let's talk about hold on we're going home. That's a better example. I guarantee he don't sound like 4 years ago
 
jinkazama jinkazama that's exactly what we are saying [emoji]128514[/emoji]. I swear if we found out a dude like Kendrick had somebody penning their **** y'all wouldn't be so o well it probably happens more than we know, or o it happens. If it does it does but he got caught. Until other dudes get exposed for having people write for them we won't talk about it. Not once or twice those this **** has been rumored for a long time. Now if your a fan and still will enjoy the music fine but don't act like its no big deal and doesn't matter. Especially when dudes were just saying he's top tier because he has respectable lyrics, and good song making abilities/makes hits while all along he might not even be penning all those hits.
 
He sangbthat **** at an award show and sounded terrible. If that's the bar for being a legit singer I know some dudes that need to make that jump. What I'm saying is when u hear the CD format anybody can sound good, rihanna sounds great on radio. Them ****** can't sing live man [emoji]128514[/emoji] Santa not real bro.

delete1234 delete1234 that's exactly the song I'm talking about
 
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rihanna is still top tier as a singer even tho shes a average singer

then you got jazmine sullivan who can sing but aint **** but a flash in the pan

top tier career>>>>top tier talent
 
I think it takes more than just Lyricsim to be top tier...

All the greats had more than just lyrics... Jay wouldn't have made it as far as he has if he didn't have more than lyrics... And Nas career would have been a lot more if he had more than just lyrics.
 
 
if top tier is based off lyricism, then papoose is top tier
rap is more than being a lyricist, thats like saying lebron isnt top tier because he cant shoot like korver

it's the reason a lot of lyricists can't get on the radio or spins anywhere ---- they suck at making SONGS

Horseshoe Gang raps circles around people, but their songs suck... it's nothing you want to listen to while you work, drive, workout, drink at the bar, etc....

Fred the Godson is one of my favorite rappers but his songs are so underwhelming ...same with Slaughterhouse ... Crooked I, in particular, makes the worst songs ever but that boy got flow

Slaughterhouse can and have made good complete songs. Never heard enough solo Crooked I to judge. Good looks on the Horseshoe Gang mention. Love their stuff over other people's beats, but haven't heard enough original stuff. I think Fred Da Godson is such a chore to listen too :lol: it's like you can tell he's very skilled, but it doesn't really come across like that when you listen to his songs.
 
jayfiend jayfiend u are 100% right. But they are saying Top tier means making hit songs, respectable lyrics, marketable. He's marketable has respectable lyrics but he just got exposed for the 3rd time not penning his music. I mean can we really say he's making hit records if he's not? Top tier entertainer for sure but top tier rapper? Idk if he ain't penning them hits nah.
 
Ya own city sports teams and goons siding with ya enemy.

just waiting on ross for the final nail in da coffin when he appears in the back to back video throwing meek album in the trash like that target vine.
 
jayfiend jayfiend u are 100% right. But they are saying Top tier means making hit songs, respectable lyrics, marketable. He's marketable has respectable lyrics but he just got exposed for the 3rd time not penning his music. I mean can we really say he's making hit records if he's not? Top tier entertainer for sure but top tier rapper? Idk if he ain't penning them hits nah.

When was the other two times?
 
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