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Everybody go running and take sides with the artist that wins said beef then a few years later that artist is trash. 50, tip, nas. Drake better enjoy this while it last.
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post #10712 of 14453
Ja first album was the **** dudes either sleeping or acting like they didn't like him.
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post #10713 of 14453
Maybe where y'all at _'s rock with Ja like that. When I was in high school dudes never talked about him with Jay and X. Dudes around here looked at him just like Nelly. Somebody that makes radio hits and that's it.
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Maybe where y'all at _'s rock with Ja like that. When I was in high school dudes never talked about him with Jay and X. Dudes around here looked at him just like Nelly. Somebody that makes radio hits and that's it.
But dudes use to rock with Nelly too. So much revisionist history.....
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Now Nelly I was a fan of.
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Maybe where y'all at _'s rock with Ja like that. When I was in high school dudes never talked about him with Jay and X. Dudes around here looked at him just like Nelly. Somebody that makes radio hits and that's it.
But dudes use to rock with Nelly too. So much revisionist history.....

My point is dudes never took them THAT serious as rappers. It ain't revisionist history. I remember dudes laughing at somebody in my neighborhood cuz they bought that Sweat Suit album. Of course they had fans but did they have a strong fan base that thought they were making classics? No. At least not where I'm at.
post #10717 of 14453
The first 2 Nelly albums are pretty good.

I was pretty much hating back then cause I was REALLY big on underground hip-hop but in retrospect those albums were pretty dope.

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Everybody go running and take sides with the artist that wins said beef then a few years later that artist is trash. 50, tip, nas. Drake better enjoy this while it last.


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Ja first album was the **** dudes either sleeping or acting like they didn't like him.




i think Drake's gonna surpass alot of people in his career though. he's literally the only guy who's actually putting in work in hip hop right now.
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My point is dudes never took them THAT serious as rappers. It ain't revisionist history. I remember dudes laughing at somebody in my neighborhood cuz they bought that Sweat Suit album. Of course they had fans but did they have a strong fan base that thought they were making classics? No. At least not where I'm at.

Most people that are talking about Ja and Nelly being legit good artist prob listen to Future and Meek currently.
Different strokes I guess, they just happen to be fans of terrible music, in which I understand. The parallel is
music back then was actually better than current trash we have ( mainstream music). I'd easily take Nelly or Ja
over Fetty and Future no question.
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Maybe where y'all at _'s rock with Ja like that. When I was in high school dudes never talked about him with Jay and X. Dudes around here looked at him just like Nelly. Somebody that makes radio hits and that's it.

That doesn't make you weack
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Most people that are talking about Ja and Nelly being legit good artist prob listen to Future and Meek currently.
Different strokes I guess, they just happen to be fans of terrible music, in which I understand. The parallel is
music back then was actually better than current trash we have ( mainstream music). I'd easily take Nelly or Ja
over Fetty and Future no question.

Drake has more in common than Ja than Meek does.
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Drake has more in common than Ja than Meek does.

As far as the singing aspect yes, but Drake or his ghostwriter will lyrically wrap circles around him and anyone
of the main artist back in the day who name isn't Jay,EM,Nas,Big.
post #10723 of 14453
Yall missing my point laugh.gif

Artist hade huge fan bases diminished after a lose in hip hop beef.

I dont care if you liked them or not fax are fax.

If you lose a rap beef people are gonna take shots.

Meek is getting hits deservably.

Dont tell me people are lame or sheep because he lost.

This is what comes historically.

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post #10724 of 14453
Even back then I was buying pretty much every release from Rawkus Records I still copped Ja first album.

I'm also willing to bet 80% of Ja/Nelly fans don't listen to rap like that anymore. They're 30+.

This is a new breed of fans, the same way Sir Mix Alot, MC Hammer fans wernt the same people buying Skew-Lo or Coolio. And so forth.

As a fan since 88, I can say there always has been rappers that weren't necessarily great talents, it's not just this era, the last era or the one before that. ****** just have revisionist history, when in reality their not in a position to intelligently speak about the culture like that, cause their simply looking back on a era they don't vividly remember.

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post #10725 of 14453
Drake couldn't rap his way out of wet paper bag. Dipset would out rap him, every member. G-Unit, yea even Yayo. Every member if the ROC. Son is the epitome of subpar average mediocre.

Ja rapped with Hov and held his own. He'd rap circles around Drake.

Drake is probaby only better than that Watch Me Whip kid.
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Yall missing my point laugh.gif

Artist hade huge fan bases diminished after a lose in hip hop beef.

I dont care if you liked them or not fax are fax.

If you lose a rap beef people are gonna take shots.

Meek is getting hits deservably.

Dont tell me people are lame or sheep because he lost.

This is what comes historically.
To an extent YES. From Busy Bee and Kool Moe Dee to KRS One and Melle Mel, traditionally the loser of high profile battles tends to see a dent in his fan base.

In this case I think its different, not sure how much of a fan base Drake and Meek share, they most certainly don't make the same type of music per se.

And just the fickle nature of modern day hip hop fans. "Ether" took a few months to come out, in today's internet culture NaS would have been finished. And then when you factor in the corporate side of things NaS hands would be tied similar to what we witnessed with Meek.

Biggie NEVER responded to "Hit'Em Up" you know what would've happened on IG? Or people not liking Meek because of Twitter rants, imagine Pac with Twitter. Some of his audio rants are borderline mean.gif

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Everybody go running and take sides with the artist that wins said beef then a few years later that artist is trash. 50, tip, nas. Drake better enjoy this while it last.

True..but Drake's had the crown for a minute...it's bound to turn sooner rather than later
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As a fan since 88, I can say there always has been rappers that weren't necessarily great talents, it's not just this era, the last era or the one before that. ****** just have revisionist history, when in reality their not in a position to intelligently speak about the culture like that, cause their simply looking back on a era they don't vividly remember.

TRUTH. Cats really in here treatin' Nelly and Ja like Jason Derulo. When them dudes were hot the hood and the mainstream were rockin' with them. They lost the hood and the mainstream soon followed.
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post #10728 of 14453
Ya'll really overrate Drake's rapping ability. laugh.gif

Drake has no crown

You can't give him a crown, if you denounce what Nelly or Ja did. Because that's what Drake is doing, selling records.
post #10729 of 14453
Drake gotta be the most overrated rapper ever 😂😂
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There's a huge in between being a dope emcee and being a wack one

Ja Rule or Meek shouldn't be mentioned with Master P.

For real, but currently I'd take those shelved Short Circuit and D.I.G albums over theirs anyday

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Ja first album was the **** dudes either sleeping or acting like they didn't like him.

His first album was dope. Bought that and DL'd the Murder Inc compilation in 2002. Other than that, didn't care for him. Doesn't take away from the fact that he was a big artist and sold records. Not gonna say he was flat out wack, but I just didn't really feel him like that
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Ya'll really overrate Drake's rapping ability. laugh.gif

Drake has no crown

You can't give him a crown, if you denounce what Nelly or Ja did. Because that's what Drake is doing, selling records.

Overrate it terribly laugh.gif
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post #10731 of 14453
Ja got MAD love and respect with that first album. Ja didn't go soft and pop until Rule 3:36. He was still getting love then. After those albums, he went too radio and became a product for the radio and women.

Nelly was getting plenty of love and respect with Country Grammar and Nellyville. Ja got more love from the hip hop crowd with his first album but both were respected. I hate when I see people act like they weren't fans and they were always viewed as corny gimmick rappers.


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Ya'll really overrate Drake's rapping ability. laugh.gif

Drake has no crown

You can't give him a crown, if you denounce what Nelly or Ja did. Because that's what Drake is doing, selling records.

I'm not giving him a crown as dopest rapper (even though I do think he's talented as a rapper) crown as biggest name in rap right now..

..and I was rocking with Ja and Nelly when they were hot laugh.gif
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post #10733 of 14453
Before I make assumptions, are you all saying Drake can't rap or he's not as talented as people say?
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Everybody go running and take sides with the artist that wins said beef then a few years later that artist is trash. 50, tip, nas. Drake better enjoy this while it last.

Wait so Nas is trash now?? laugh.gif
post #10735 of 14453
U right my bad he ain't trash but if he dropped a album tomorrow a lot of people wouldn't hear it.
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post #10736 of 14453
Lol ^^
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Drake couldn't rap his way out of wet paper bag. Dipset would out rap him, every member. G-Unit, yea even Yayo. Every member if the ROC. Son is the epitome of subpar average mediocre.

Ja rapped with Hov and held his own. He'd rap circles around Drake.

Drake is probaby only better than that Watch Me Whip kid.

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post #10738 of 14453
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Most people that are talking about Ja and Nelly being legit good artist prob listen to Future and Meek currently.
Different strokes I guess, they just happen to be fans of terrible music, in which I understand. The parallel is
music back then was actually better than current trash we have ( mainstream music). I'd easily take Nelly or Ja
over Fetty and Future no question.

Shut up. Hip hop elitist annoy me lol.

Future is DOPE. Drake is cool. He's good at what he does, but overrated.

Early nelly was a good ARTIST. Country Grammar was a good album.

Ja was a Hit-Maker. He did what he did, and did it well. You just the type of ***** to hate on anything mainstream if it doesn't fit your view. Never compare Fetty Wap to future.
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post #10739 of 14453
I wasn't a Ja fan, but I bought his first album. I liked Holla Holla, and his appearance on "Can I Get A"

After listening to that album I was done with Ja Rule, but I wouldn't say he was wack. I never liked his projects. Sort of like Mase.
post #10740 of 14453
Ja rule and Nelly was both cool for what they brought to the table..no they weren't Jay..Em..or Nas..But they did make good songs...

What did Ja rule in was the machine behind 50..The Dr. Dre and Em co-sign was big..

Plus despite being horrible lyrically..Eagle and Hot in here..came out right around the time I was in the club scene heavy..so I could never hate nelly..
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