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Originally Posted by Magic1978 View Post

I never liked his projects. Sort of like Mase.

 

 

 

Murda >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Meek

 

 

Originally Posted by outsidethabox View Post

Ja rule and Nelly was both cool for what they brought to the table..no they weren't Jay..Em..or Nas..But they did make good songs...

What did Ja rule in was the machine behind 50..The Dr. Dre and Em co-sign was big..

Plus despite being horrible lyrically..Eagle and Hot in here..came out right around the time I was in the club scene heavy..so I could never hate nelly..

 

And what's doin Meek in is the Drake machine, how is this so hard to understand?

 

Meek lost on all sides, I don't see the ground to stand on his defense.


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post #10742 of 13998
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Shut up. Hip hop elitist annoy me lol.

Future is DOPE. Drake is cool. He's good at what he does, but overrated.

Early nelly was a good ARTIST. Country Grammar was a good album.

Ja was a Hit-Maker. He did what he did, and did it well. You just the type of ***** to hate on anything mainstream if it doesn't fit your view. Never compare Fetty Wap to future.

You can stop at Future is dope. mean.gif
post #10743 of 13998
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Future is DOPE. Drake is cool. He's good at what he does, but overrated.

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pee pee boy is overrated but the dying hyena with autotune is dope, in capital letters.

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bout dont compare dog **** wap and poopture when the only difference is the name of the turd.
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post #10744 of 13998
Son is overrated point blank period. It reminds me of when dudes were all 😵 at c3 and post c3 Wayne like bruh stop it, he's spitting average *** bars.
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post #10745 of 13998
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Son is overrated point blank period. It reminds me of when dudes were all 😵 at c3 and post c3 Wayne like bruh stop it, he's spitting average *** bars.

#allfacts I can't wait until Drake's run is over and I can see how people talk when looking back at it.

50 used to be greatest thing since slice bread. He was in mad people's top 5. I even remember a thread on here "If 50 dies will he be the GOAT" Rap sheep just like to get caught up in the hype. It's sad really. We all have to suffer countless trash songs and features cause cats see through the fog. mean.gifmean.gif
post #10746 of 13998
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Before I make assumptions, are you all saying Drake can't rap or he's not as talented as people say?

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Most people that are talking about Ja and Nelly being legit good artist prob listen to Future and Meek currently.
Different strokes I guess, they just happen to be fans of terrible music, in which I understand. The parallel is
music back then was actually better than current trash we have ( mainstream music). I'd easily take Nelly or Ja
over Fetty and Future no question.

Shut up. Hip hop elitist annoy me lol.

Future is DOPE. Drake is cool. He's good at what he does, but overrated.

Early nelly was a good ARTIST. Country Grammar was a good album.

Ja was a Hit-Maker. He did what he did, and did it well. You just the type of ***** to hate on anything mainstream if it doesn't fit your view. Never compare Fetty Wap to future.

Couldn't agree more with that

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I wasn't a Ja fan, but I bought his first album. I liked Holla Holla, and his appearance on "Can I Get A"

After listening to that album I was done with Ja Rule, but I wouldn't say he was wack. I never liked his projects. Sort of like Mase.

Good comparison. I had no interest in Mase once I heard his second album, which is a shame, cause his 1st album was so good. Nothing else came close, though he did have a nice verse or two years later.
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post #10747 of 13998
I'm not saying that drake can't rap, but he's pretty much average or slightly above it. Rap has shifted away from lyrics and more so to beats/hooks/harmonizing etc so people get **** twisted and say he could rumble with the heavyweights of the 90s. He has respectable lyrics meaning he can hold his own but he's not this lyrical heavyweight his fans try to make him out to be.
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post #10748 of 13998
Drake is one of the BEST hip-hop artist EVER.

If he wanted to, I'm sure he could get the proper staff and be ONE of the best rappers as well.

He (and his help) have made some AMAZING music, how Ns really gonna deny that?

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post #10749 of 13998
Easy, just listen to the music. That word hip hop should be used very loosely tho. Probably the greatest pop-rapper ever tho. Straight knocked Nelly down.
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post #10750 of 13998
It's definitely hip-hop.
It may not ALWAYS be rap.
But Drake makes hip-hop music.

His fans are worse than Eminem's, but that's not his fault.

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post #10751 of 13998
Drake don't even make rap. He's 100% pop. Right there with Kesha and One Direction.
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Originally Posted by Trill Nimley View Post

It's definitely hip-hop.
It may not ALWAYS be rap.
But Drake makes hip-hop music.

His fans are worse than Eminem's, but that's not his fault.

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Drake is one of the BEST hip-hop artist EVER.

If he wanted to, I'm sure he could get the proper staff and be ONE of the best rappers as well.

He (and his help) have made some AMAZING music, how Ns really gonna deny that?

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Originally Posted by Willchamberlain View Post

I'm not saying that drake can't rap, but he's pretty much average or slightly above it. Rap has shifted away from lyrics and more so to beats/hooks/harmonizing etc so people get **** twisted and say he could rumble with the heavyweights of the 90s. He has respectable lyrics meaning he can hold his own but he's not this lyrical heavyweight his fans try to make him out to be.
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#allfacts I can't wait until Drake's run is over and I can see how people talk when looking back at it.
 

 

Dat sodium content :x

 
Originally Posted by Trill Nimley View Post

Drake is one of the BEST hip-hop artist EVER.

 

Dat nonsense :x 

 

You can't just use the words "hip hop" in place of "rap" like the two aren't the same :lol

 

Drake is a very talented rapper, artist, whatever you choose to label him.

 

Not close to GOAT though :lol


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post #10756 of 13998
Hip pop
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post #10757 of 13998
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Originally Posted by Trill Nimley View Post

Drake is one of the BEST hip-hop artist EVER.

If he wanted to, I'm sure he could get the proper staff and be ONE of the best rappers as well.

He (and his help) have made some AMAZING music, how Ns really gonna deny that?

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When you say one of the best does that mean he's in the top 200?
post #10758 of 13998
Man im with will that Drake is OVERRATED...
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Drake don't even make rap. He's 100% pop. Right there with Kesha and One Direction.

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Rap and hip-hop aren't necessarily the same. And not in a Kweli vs Soulja Boy kinda way.

For example you don't have to be a RAPPER to make hip-hop music. Ex. Nate Dogg, Ty Dolla, Kid Cudi, Fetty Wap, Missy Elliot, they make hip-hop, none of them are rappers as far as I'm concerned ( Cudi raps maybe 25% of the time)

Pop is short for POPULAR. Taylor Swift is a pop star, but she's from the genre of country. Nelly was a pop star from the genre of rap/hip-hop. Shaggy was a pop star from the genre of Reggae. Janet and Michael Jackson were pop stars from the genre of R&B, etc.

To deny Drake's status as one of the BEST is simply denial. While I personally prefer KRS One/Ice Cube's style to his, he is a BETTER artist than BOTH. While they are/were superior rappers.

Jadakiss is one of the GREATEST rappers/MC/Lyricist but he has had a mediocre career as an actual artist, he hasn't made GREAT music. The same could be said for a Ras Kass, Killah Priest, they are AMAZING rappers/MC/lyricist but there careers as artist are dismal at best, where people Luke Drake, Ja, Nelly or Missy Elliott had much more profound careers as rap/hip-hop artist.

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post #10761 of 13998
Pop is short for Popular and isnt Drake POPULAR? Yup ppl calling him pop sounds about right then lol
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Originally Posted by Trill Nimley View Post

Rap and hip-hop aren't necessarily the same. And not in a Kweli vs Soulja Boy kinda way.

For example you don't have to be a RAPPER to make hip-hop music. Ex. Nate Dogg, Ty Dolla, Kid Cudi, Fetty Wap, Missy Elliot, they make hip-hop, none of them are rappers as far as I'm concerned ( Cudi raps maybe 25% of the time)

Pop is short for POPULAR. Taylor Swift is a pop star, but she's from the genre of country. Nelly was a pop star from the genre of rap/hip-hop. Shaggy was a pop star from the genre of Reggae. Janet and Michael Jackson were pop stars from the genre of R&B, etc.

To deny Drake's status as one of the BEST is simply denial. While I personally prefer KRS One/Ice Cube's style to his, he is a BETTER artist than BOTH. While they are/were superior rappers.

Jadakiss is one of the GREATEST rappers/MC/Lyricist but he has had a mediocre career as an actual artist, he hasn't made GREAT music. The same could be said for a Ras Kass, Killah Priest, they are AMAZING rappers/MC/lyricist but there careers as artist are dismal at best, where people Luke Drake, Ja, Nelly or Missy Elliott had much more profound careers as rap/hip-hop artist.ow

 

And I agree with everything you said so let me stand corrected.

 

But what does the label have to do with anything?

 

Thats more of a shot at Meek then anything.


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post #10763 of 13998
But it's not a genre. It's a status. Anyone can be pop is enough people like their ****. The Billboard charts are for POPULAR music. NaS, Pac, BIG, Cube, Outkast have had albums reach #1 on popular charts.

Calling Drake pop doesn't discredit him. It's actually props. If your in the business of selling and you become popular you essentially have experienced more success than others.

Drake never worked with Taylor Swift, never needed to. Meanwhile Kendrick.. NaS is on Madonna last album, DJ Premier produced for Christina Aguilera, etc.

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post #10764 of 13998
So youre one of those who believe popularity, status & marketing make you better than those that are actually more talented cause that artist is actually being recognized? Ok man. And Taylor Swift collab or not, Kendrick is the best artist in hip hop right now & its not even close...
post #10765 of 13998
1. J Cole
2. Future
3. Kendrick


Then the rest.
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post #10766 of 13998
I used to think son preached sense when we would all bicker. But u delusional man, that's why the industry all ****** up they got delusional people working.
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post #10767 of 13998
Drake definitely one of my favorite rappers ever.

Or rather, he's made some of my favorite music ever if he's admitting to getting that QM help like it seems in that Fader article.
post #10768 of 13998
Marketing & hype over powers all. Only reason i can explain projects like Rodeo by Travis Scott & Black Dollar by Rick Ross being so overlooked by this Drake & Future collab mean.gif
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1. J Cole
2. Future
3. Kendrick


Then the rest.


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post #10770 of 13998
Where does my guy Choobakka rank in the greatest list?

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