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Originally Posted by Maximus Meridius View Post

Both of these dudes looking funny right now. Even though Meek looks like a clown he still exposed the fact that QM was writing Drakes ****.

 

 

Drake is only looking funny to the dudes who never rocked with him anyway.  I don't think anyone else cares that much because he was never really in the discussion for the GOAT rapper, however, GOAT artist is a different story.

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Idk but his fan base is hood dudes. These ****** was so excited to see meek, like the hood guru 😂. One of my homeboys said his homie was talking about he motivated now, like negro this dude performed imma boss and levels now u just wanna get some paper? 😂😂
😂😂😂 man you ain't lying my lil potna like that when Levels came out I asked him "WHY YOU LISTEN TO MEEK BRUH?" dude was like "CAUSE HE JUST LIKE ME YOUNG, GETTING MONEY & HAVING FUN DUDE REALLY BE INSPIRING ON SOME ****" I was like 😑😑😑😑....The thing with MEEK it's not that DRAKE is light skin MEEK just a lame over all dude addressing ppl on IG on his diss track....
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It's cool not to like Meek now wow.


N's booing his diss record in the club.

Sometimes it's not about being "cool", but moreso about dudes bringing it upon themselves by doing unlikeable ****.

 

 

He dissed arguably the biggest contributor to his album's success (as far as features go) for weak props and lulz.

 

This social media tough guy/bully persona he cultivated blew up in his face. He deserves all this ****.

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Both of these dudes looking funny right now. Even though Meek looks like a clown he still exposed the fact that QM was writing Drakes ****.


Drake is only looking funny to the dudes who never rocked with him anyway.  I don't think anyone else cares that much because he was never really in the discussion for the GOAT rapper, however, GOAT artist is a different story.

Tell that to anyone who 100% rocks with him laugh.gif

Agreed about Meek playing this all wrong and it blowing up in his face like it did. It's pretty embarrassing that Meek took all these L's, cause Drake isn't even really all that much better as a straight up rapper than he is. It's just that if you come at somebody, you better be more than a 1 dimensional dude yourself. Perception is everything sometimes, and in this case, you had Meek who was supposed to be some hard battle-rapper while Drake was supposed to be a soft-ballad rapper. They each exchanged some of the most underwhelming disses you'll ever hear, yet Meek Mill was clearly affected as if he heard Hit'em Up or Takeover laugh.gif add in Meek's constant twitter and IG posts, and you have one massive L.
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meek still aint tweet :lol its over for him

 

when a dude make you stop doing something you're used to doing, he got under your skin

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Drake isn't Nas but he raps circles around Meek Mill.
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Drake is better as a straight up rapper than Tweet is, which isn't really saying that much.

Neither are in the top tier of lyricists.
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meek still aint tweet laugh.gif  its over for him

when a dude make you stop doing something you're used to doing, he got under your skin

Wale might have got in his ears about it.
He's been known to delete his Twitter for weeks at a time to stop him from responding to trolls.
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Yo that wanna know diss is aite, after all is settled down it ain't bad. Back2back is an anthem though..never saw a hit record of a diss, he has the format down so good.

But to really go on topic, does no one care that he doesn't write? I mean yo that's a huge thing...that milli vanilli line is deep, look what happen to them and how authentic fans were in terms of their expectations from the artists.

It obviously not the same thing, but pretty close concept
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milli vanilli didnt even use their real voice, thats why they fell off

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But to really go on topic, does no one care that he doesn't write? I mean yo that's a huge thing...that milli vanilli line is deep, look what happen to them and how authentic fans were in terms of their expectations from the artists.

 

 

You mean to tell me he didn't write anything on So Far Gone?

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Bottom line, Meek hasnt been about nothing from jump. When he was on his battle era he had some low set heat. His whole thing was chopper this, duck tape that, run up in your spot, and flip this much crack. Talking the same lines ,only swapping the caliber, the product he was selling, and the opponent he was vs'ing.
Imo he peeked with the Reed$ diss.
Now if hed of got on that with
MC Tear drops, hed of aired him out.
Instead he dragged his feet, then came mediocre, exactly the same way hes been his entire "signed" career, weak and repetitive.

Im a concious hip hop enthusiasts,so to me all this trap,trill, feels rap is lame.
Hardly
Nobody spitting real life rhymes anymore, Im talking that wake u up , give a lesson,set a standard come original, and lyrically uplift and stimulate.

This drake vs meek aint battling , if you ever got down with some URL,KOTD, the top seeds and even alot of the low level battlers would destroy the both of these dudes. The url kotd get some credit for semi keeping the art of battling alive, but
Even then,real battles were respected
when they was strictly off the top, no pre writtens, if u came with a written u was asking to get clowned. Actually had to walk with skill, be ready on sight. and quick witted. Wasnt no go home write up some bs, come back tomorrow and try again, as is with life many times theres no 2nd chance, and hiphop reflected that with how battling took place.
Freestyling is a lost art in this era, as is raw lyrical ability, consciousness, and Honesty. Streets no longer dictate the culture, its pathetic.

Overall the current state of hiphop is flat out border line DEAD....

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Meek was never going to go bar for with drake..he doesn't have that in him..never did..he's no lyricist..his lane is street music..

In his rap battles in the past..which took part in the streets..he could rely on true statements to discredit his opponent..ex: saying Joey jihad got knocked out on his block to sway the battle in his favor..things like this doesn't work when the people just doesn't care about it..so when he say drake got smack by diddy it goes in one and out the other.

People wanted something from him he couldn't deliver..I been following the guy from the beginning and knew what he would come with..factual statements and street talk..thats been his game plan in every battle..but saying your real to a audience who don't care about it was his downfall..
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never seen the hype with meeks street battles, garbage

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Meek should've linked with beans and wrote 1,000 bars because thats what he needed.
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Another thing that I believe was against Meek was the actual Drake haters. While they knew Drake they probably didn't really know about Meek, the initial jab got them feeling themselves and they thought, finally. However, Drake put back to back tracks and while they waited they started liking Drake's flow and joined in the social backlash that Meek was receiving for not putting a track.

So when these haters waited some more and the track didn't have all these catchy disses and was mediocre at best, they found a new love for Drake and bomb, they now turned on Meek.

You really think all these Meeks haters were there before?
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Yo that wanna know diss is aite, after all is settled down it ain't bad. Back2back is an anthem though..never saw a hit record of a diss, he has the format down so good.

But to really go on topic, does no one care that he doesn't write? I mean yo that's a huge thing...that milli vanilli line is deep, look what happen to them and how authentic fans were in terms of their expectations from the artists.

It obviously not the same thing, but pretty close concept


MV didn't even perform their own music. Drake not writing would be a huge deal, but It seems more like Drake got help on some songs.
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MV didn't even perform their own music. Drake not writing would be a huge deal, but It seems more like Drake got help on some songs.
they performed the songs B, they just didn't write them or sang them. They B on stage lip singing and performing.
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That's what I mean by perform. tired.gif
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Another thing that I believe was against Meek was the actual Drake haters. While they knew Drake they probably didn't really know about Meek, the initial jab got them feeling themselves and they thought, finally. However, Drake put back to back tracks and while they waited they started liking Drake's flow and joined in the social backlash that Meek was receiving for not putting a track.

So when these haters waited some more and the track didn't have all these catchy disses and was mediocre at best, they found a new love for Drake and bomb, they now turned on Meek.

You really think all these Meeks haters were there before?

exactly these rap fans aint loyal , they might not have turned into drake fans, but they definitely not on the meek train anymore

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never seen the hype with meeks street battles, garbage

I don't think it's even hype..if you ask me bar for bar he lost a lot of them too..where he won tho was public perception..because he was able to exposed a lot of them dudes who was also consider street rapper..So when the audience is from the streets and the rappers are consider street rappers..and you expose your opponent to be a fake..your going to win..

He wasn't able to do this to drake..because the audience doesn't care if drake out here doing quote on quote " real **** or not" as long he makes good songs.
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Still all poltics,to often the fan base that cheers the loudest determines the outcome, regardless who was the rawest.

In this case 'Drizzled on' won because he actually filled the tracks with rhyme. Where meek might of came with truths,but he put to many fillers in , plus his lines were simple simon. Not saying Drizzled lines were good, but they was better than meeks lines, plus dizzles gave more material to help him claim this victory.
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I don't think it's even hype..if you ask me bar for bar he lost a lot of them too..where he won tho was public perception..because he was able to exposed a lot of them dudes who was also consider street rapper..So when the audience is from the streets and the rappers are consider street rappers..and you expose your opponent to be a fake..your going to win..

He wasn't able to do this to drake..because the audience doesn't care if drake out here doing quote on quote " real **** or not" as long he makes good songs.
you can hear it on this track, he don't care cause he's telling the truth and no one can tell him ****.

Ain't no body care who wrote Know yourself, they care is out. You think they like naw, Drake didn't write this? **** Im not playing this ****. They probably heard Wanna know and right after Know yourself ....

It would of have been different if Drake had OK career, but Drake been on to of the Charts for years. People like "his" music or should I say his Flow and presentation. There a reason why QM isn't rapping ... Ghostwriter wrote because allot of them don't have the potential to be stats and flows are atrocious.
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Another thing that I believe was against Meek was the actual Drake haters. While they knew Drake they probably didn't really know about Meek, the initial jab got them feeling themselves and they thought, finally. However, Drake put back to back tracks and while they waited they started liking Drake's flow and joined in the social backlash that Meek was receiving for not putting a track.

So when these haters waited some more and the track didn't have all these catchy disses and was mediocre at best, they found a new love for Drake and bomb, they now turned on Meek.

You really think all these Meeks haters were there before?

exactly these rap fans aint loyal , they might not have turned into drake fans, but they definitely not on the meek train anymore

 

Honestly, most of the people that were on Meek's side werent Meek fans in the first place.  They just saw someone challenging Drake and latched on in hopes that he would take Drake out.  Meek turned out not to be that guy :lol.  Just how I root for anyone playing against the Eagles because I'm a Cowboys fan and I hate that disgrace of a team lol.  Same concept.

 

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I don't think it's even hype..if you ask me bar for bar he lost a lot of them too..where he won tho was public perception..because he was able to exposed a lot of them dudes who was also consider street rapper..So when the audience is from the streets and the rappers are consider street rappers..and you expose your opponent to be a fake..your going to win..

He wasn't able to do this to drake..because the audience doesn't care if drake out here doing quote on quote " real **** or not" as long he makes good songs.
you can hear it on this track, he don't care cause he's telling the truth and no one can tell him ****.

Ain't no body care who wrote Know yourself, they care is out. You think they like naw, Drake didn't write this? **** Im not playing this ****. They probably heard Wanna know and right after Know yourself ....

It would of have been different if Drake had OK career, but Drake been on to of the Charts for years. People like "his" music or should I say his Flow and presentation. There a reason why QM isn't rapping ... Ghostwriter wrote because allot of them don't have the potential to be stats and flows are atrocious.

 

Nobody cared because it wasnt that serious.  Its not like Drake never wrote a bar in his career.  A hook and half of a verse is nothing, especially on songs that arent his "lyrical" songs in the first place.  

 

Why do you think nobody else in the industry agreed with or got behind Meek?  Its not because of Drake's influence, but because this happens all the time.  Its apart of the game and has been since the beginning.  When you have lyrical cats from Slaughterhouse like Royce and Crooked saying "Yea i have taken reference tracks, I have bought hooks, i've had people give me the flow and cadence for a song/verse", you should know its nothing new or out of the ordinary.  Even Jay and Big have done songs based off reference tracks.  BIG is one of the greatest and have had whole verses written for him.  Just because alot of people didnt know, doesnt mean its anything new.

 

Not one rapper interviewed about the situation said anything other than "So?" or "I'm not surprised" lol.

 

Thinking that all rappers do is write a verse on a pad and rap it over a beat is like a kid believing in Santa Claus lol.  Nice fantasy to think about, but in reality theres a whole lot more that goes into getting that toy under a kids tree.

All of these artists (including Drake) that write bars, verses, hooks, and songs for other artists.....SOMEBODY is buying em :lol.  Don't fool yourselves lol.

 

 

If he would have exposed Drake for NEVER writing in his career, this would've been big.  But for those 4 songs....Nah bruh.  Nobody cares lol.  10 bands and Know Yourself are throwaways compared to Drakes best material.

 

Meek just didnt have the material or angle to beat Drake.  What does Meek rap about? Cant rap about street stuff/violence/being soft to a dude that admits he's not street.  Nobody is expecting Drake to have a fight or shootout with Meek lol.  Cant rap about money and material things to a cat worth 10x you.  Cant say his music is better than Drakes.  Meek's disses just didn't/couldn't do much damage.  While Drake's angle, the Nicki situation and Him being a Twitter thug might not have been the most cutthroat disses of all time, but they cut Meek really deep.  Personal digs that cause the opponent to look at himself differently , not just threats/insults.  Meek hasnt been on Twitter since and he tweets all day everyday lol.

 

 If the Q. Miller situation and getting splashed with pee(which he didn't even put into a bar)  was his only ammo, Meek never had a chance to win this. That street/battle rapper angle of throwing clever disses and threats just wont work in this type of situation, with this type of opponent.

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True to a degree, Its that popularity contest I was speaking on.
I think alot of people forget where hip hop comes from, The Streets.
Undoubtedly Drake was bound to be held in high regard being hes much more notable.
Still Meek slayed himself, the opportunity to win was there, he squandered it.

Like stated above, meek to the majority was losing no matter how bad he coulda,shoulda,woulda killed Drake. Only if hed of actually thought this out, instead of jaunting down some cat in the hat garbo , hed of won. At the very least hed of won in the eyes of the pioneers, natives, connoiseurs, and/or last but not least ,,,The Streets.
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post #6536 of 14543
Ross really has no comment?
Surprised meek aint go rogue on him since its bridge burning season.
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Ross really has no comment?

Nah he to busy fightin that case he just caught...Meek on his own 

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Ross really has no comment?
IMHO Rick Ross need to be silent, his career is in Life Support.

I hate Ross because the dude is a Fraud.
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IMHO Rick Ross need to be silent, his career is in Life Support.

I hate Ross because the dude is a Fraud.

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IMHO Rick Ross need to be silent, his career is in Life Support.

I hate Ross because the dude is a Fraud.

pac isnt a fraud?

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