**Official Meek Mill Thread****Dreamchasers IV Out Now**

[$tacy]

Idk but his fan base is hood dudes. These ****** was so excited to see meek, like the hood guru [emoji]128514[/emoji]. One of my homeboys said his homie was talking about he motivated now, like negro this dude performed imma boss and levels now u just wanna get some paper? [emoji]128514[/emoji][emoji]128514[/emoji]

 

[flesh prince]

Copied and pasted this fom KTT. Apparently from a ***** on LSA who know Drama's girl. I'd take it with a grain of salt but I guess we'll see if it's true if/when Drake puts out that 3-Peat.

Cliffs:

- Drama told Meek that Drake used a reference track on RICO.

- Meek approached Drake about this a long *** time ago. Drake felt disrespected. Which is why Drake ain't go to his homecoming concert. Meek could have taken him off the album if he wanted to.

- Meek was upset bruh ain't tweet his album and thought he could go at him b/c Nicki went at Taylor earlier that day.

- He thought the reference track thing would make a bigger dent on Drake.

- He didn't think Drake would respond, so Charged Up surprised him, but he still went and recorded Wanna Know Saturday or Sunday and planned to drop it Monday as advertised, but they were waiting on the reference tracks from Drama. 

- Drama was hesitant to give Meek/Flex the reference tracks but gave them to them after Back To Back and after Drake aligned himself with AR-AB who apparently told Drake hella secrets for the 3-Peat Death Blow track, because this was/is going to eally hurt Meek's career.

- They waited until Thursday to let the social media roasting die down.

- The snitch line in Wanna Know is about AR-AB.

- Drama salty that Meek mention TI, because now TI is mad that he was involved.

- Drama was mad that Drake backed out of the IYRTITL Gangsta Grillz and the entire industry feels like Drake is too cocky.

- Basically this entire **** backfired on Meek and his career is in Drake's hands, that 3 Peat is only not gonna come out if Drake shows pity.

Spoiler: Warning: Spoiler!

This is the real tea that i found out from someone close to dj dramas girl. Meek found out from dj drama that drake had used a reference track from quinton for RICO. Meek confronted drake about it and they had a lil argument and drake felt like he was disrespected for the way meek came at him since he was doing a favor for meek. This happened the same week of meeks homecoming concert. Drake didnt show up because he was pissed at the way meek came at him. Meek was upset because drake was supposed to be the big celeb for his event. The track was already recorded and done when meek found out. Meek decided to still put the track on his cd. Months later meeks album comes out and drake doesnt tweet about it. Meek was upset because he felt like despite them having anargument, drake would still support since hes on the album. Meek started feeling himself when he saw how taylor went at nicki and how much love nicki was getting even though taylor is the bigger star. Meek felt like ill just expose drake and the public will side with me because they will see that drake is a fraud just like they sided with nicki over taylor. Word gets around to all the djs like charlemagne and flex that drama has a ref track and more ref tracks. Flex begs drama for the 10 bands track and drops it. By jow most djs already know that there are more ref tracks that drama has. None of them care because they dont want to ruin their relationship that drake has with their station. Flex decides to put it out there when he found out about the other ref tracks acting like he had it but drama wouldnt give it up. Meek didnt think drake would respond to him and was shocked when charged up came out. Meek did his diss record and told flex he would give it to him but was still trying to get the other ref tracks from drama to give to flex but drama wouldnt give it so flex and meek last minute decided not to premiere the diss track because they wanted to drop everything at the same time and ether drake. The next day drake releases his second track and shocks flex and meek because they werent expecting it. Meek already hAs his diss wanna know recorded but pretends like he still has to record it because he wAs still trying to get the ref tracks. Dj drama gives the track to meek who then tells flex that they are ready. Dj drama did not get paid for it. He wAs upset like op stated because he gave meek the ref tracks as a favor and meek went and called TI name in his track about the pee accident. TI got upset at drama and drama is pissed like op stated because he involved TI. Everything has backfired on all of them. Meek already knew about the piss incident but drama didnt think he would say it in his song and put TI name.
Another tea. The beggining of wanna know when meek talks about a !!!!! who went to jail for not snitching but later snitches. He was talking about AR-AB. When drake ref his name in back to back. Meek found out that AR-AB will be signing to ovo and has told his secrets to drake....meek is scared because drake has alot of info about him. This is the reason y drama gave the ref tracks to meek. They knew drake has ammo on meek and could air it out so as a friend drama gave the tracks thinking it would stop drake and it all backfired. 

It is true that drama was supposed to do drakes mixtape but drake backed out last minute. Alot of guys in the industry feel like drake is too cocky and is feeling himself too much. Drama was upset because drake cost him money. Same thing he did to jayz. Drake is at the top and they hate his attitude and feel like he is an ******* but kiss his *** secretly because he can get them hits. This beef has nothing to do with nicki. Nicki and drake were still cool after meek found out about rico ref. nicki was even at coachella in april and drake brought her out. She decided to stay out of it and wAs shocked when meek aired it out. They got into an argument about it and thats y meek apologized to nicki on stage the next day. Nicki is stuck because she loves meek and has to support him because he is her man but she doesnt hate drake. She is loyal to meek but has told meek she will not say anything about it or back him up but will still stand by him.
Drama and meek are close. Drama gave the 10 bands track to flex and flex thought it would finish drake but the public turned on flex and said how do we know its real? Thats when flex said he had ref tracks for the other songs because he was getting so much hate. Flex didnt have the other tracks. None of the other djs did either. They all just knew it existed but flex was the only one begging for it. Drama wouldnt give it to flex. When drake released charged up meek was surprised because he didnt think drake would do a diss track since he never responds. He then records wanna know and tells flex he will give it to him on monday but then during the show meeks tells flex they should wait till they can see if they can presuade drama for the orher tracks. The next night at toronto meek doesnt diss drake because him and flex are still working on getting the tracks and airing it out all together. So yes drama wasnt going to give it up but once they saw how dirty drake was playing by getting into contact with AR-AB, drama was like well if hes trying to destroy you then lets finish him. Drama felt like drake is a snake by trying to sign AR-AB. Thats a big no no...once they found out they knew drake is planning on destroying meek so drama felt like he had to help his friend meek out but didnt know meek mentioned TI

Drama now feels betrayed by meek. Alot of people in the industry look at drake as soft so no one expected him to go all the way. Drake has alot of ammo on meek and could finish meek. Meek found out from some of his homies in philly. Drake is going for blood. Meek blackballed ARAB from getting signed by anybody when tney fell out. Here comes drake saying ill sign you and work with you and give u exposure and AR-AB is happy and starts spilling info. ThAts y drake shouted out AR-AB to let meek know im coming for you. Meek and drama are done. Drama now hates meek and told flex to pull the tracks from his website after he posted it but e ery ody downloaded it and then the next day flex goes back and puts the download links back on his website. Drama feels betrayed. You will never hear flex talk about those ref tracks again on air. He knows he screwed up.

I like drake but feel bad for meek a lil because he didnt know this is how it would turn out. Meek just knew drake wouldnt respond and may just diss him on a track sub on his album. Got so cocky. Released 10 bands with flex and when tne public didnt care...him and flex thought oh its because its only one track...if we get the others. No way will the public not believe drake is a fraud. Hes done. Flex becomes the hero and so does meek. Then here comes drake with charged up...they laughed at him...they knew the track was soft. Meek then goes and records wanna know and tells flex they should drop it. someone in meeks camp tells him its better to wait a lil bit. Dont drop it just yet. Flex knew during the show but didnt say anything that night. Thats y he wasnt mad at meek the next day and meek said lol on twitter when people were upset. Meeks camp told him wait till after the toronto show to drop wanna know because they might boo u hard. Meek didnt know that early that morning drake would release back to back. They now had to come up with a diff plan after hearing the subs in the track...drama decided to give the tracks but meek and flex figured they should just wait till the day after drake dropped back to back when the jokes on him and flex have died down. Thats y meek lied that he was waiting to go in the studio. His track was already recorded. They just knew the public would disown drake. Thats y flex dissed charl again that night and was like i run ny And kept dropping bombs And then put the ref tracks on his website and played meeks track hundred times that night. Everything backfired. Meek got clowned for his track and nobody cared for the rev. Sad thing is that people hyped up meek and made him feel like his track was ether..he just knew drake was done lmao. now drake will finish him unless he feels pity.

You could tell from the way Meek first approached exposing the reference track thing and the way Flex went SUPER hard at drake on twitter that they felt like they really had some put your career in the grave type ****. Flex was @'n drake talking about "tell me I'm lying" and typing in all caps and **** and meek was on there pattin himself on the back like he had really did some ****. They had convinced themselves that the information they had was basically death blow to drake who was gonna too weak to even respond so the risk was worth the perceived reward for them. Meek would be seen as "real" and as the person who brought the most popular rapper in the game down and he would get the chance to make a huge come up off the scandal and his roll in it. His delusions clearly fueled his actions which is why he can't let that angle go still even tho it's obvious that angle barely made a dent in drake's career and if anything gave drake a boost in an area many people clowned him for in the past, I mean like incog said, drake never responds to ****, drake is seen as soft AF, he's to the rapper you would think would take to Wax off jump and diss yo *** them go head to head with you. He figured he could try drake, drake would stay mute and public opinion would sway away from him swiftly but none of that **** happened.

It was all one HUGE miscalculation on Meek's part and drama's part and mostly because of 3 things: 1) they overestimated the worth of those reference tracks, 2) Meek let his ego and his perceived advantage feed his delusions of grandeur influence his behavior and 3) they severely underestimated drake. Those three things were a recipe for a disaster that they would not see coming and that's exactly what happened smh

I would say they could have avoided so many L's had they just chilled after they initially saw most people were not eating up the ghostwriter/reference track thing but by that point it was too late to salvage it all because it was already put out there and as soon as it was Drake went into action. Everything about how he handled this whole fiasco was strategic and well thought out and he knew that they weren't going to be prepared for it all because he's well aware for how people perceive him and what they perceive as his weaknesses. He knew he had to address is some way because this wasn't just some off the handle call out for a rap battle or some **** like that, this was somebody trying to really expose him and **** up his livelihood, you don't take that kinda **** sitting down at all. You can chill when somebody like DMX says you're a ***** and they don't like you, you don't have to give a **** when somebody calls you canada dry, that won't mess up your coins or your rep really, ESP for somebody like drake who already has a rep for being a softy, all that **** does is reinforce what people already believe which I honestly think he don't have two ***** about at the end of the day. You can't chill when somebody tries to put a mark on your whole career and **** up your reputation as a writer, which is one of this main strengths and a big part of his success. You don't take that lightly at all and you take swift and calculated action that will heavily sway public opinion in your direction even if it entails taking a risk like engaging in a "rap battle" with somebody who has wayy more experience at that sorta thing than you do and who is probably gonna be more aggressive at it. He played every card he had well. Being the first to make a diss track and not speaking on it outside of the track would put him on the offensive and also win him points for keeping it "hip hop". Everything he said in the first track, the tone, it was all for a purpose. He knew that **** would catch everybody ESP meek off guard and rattle him, and from what incog says that's exactly what it did. It would put him in a corner because now he would have to respond and he would have to respond fairly quickly because all eyes would be on him. Sending your opponent scrambling like that is a sure fire way to make them make mistakes that will ultimately make them hang themselves.

I knew from jump that drake was clearly baiting Meek to respond, that's why he made the second diss and why he planned the whole thing the way he did. The first one was basically saying "you thought I wasn't gonna do **** but you ****** up dude so here I am ready" that's why he named the **** charged up and kept it pretty tame. The second one he stepped it up way more, went a little bit more personal but not too personal to really infuriate him which was smart because that could have backfired and made meek think harder before he came out with something. From the shots at his status in his relationship, from the album artwork and the philly curse angle of it all, the timing, the way he did it all with no hype and just dropped it. He was trying to force their hand to engage him and to release the **** they had that he knew nobody would give a **** about. If people truly cared about the reference tracks then they would have responded the first time around. He knew that was prolly all they had on him (and clearly it was since even after it all flopped Meek *** was STILL on social media whining and playing that angle) and it would flop hard so he baited meek to respond and show his hand and that's exactly what Meek did. His sloppy diss track was completely mishandled, it had no real ammo on it besides the reference track and he hyped it up wayyy to much in an attempt to build momentum for himself that he had lost to drake because of his two diss records. It was all just executed poorly just like drake predicted it would be and it blew up in his face majorly.

Drake's bars might not have been the best bars, he might not have been as aggressive as Tupac saying "I ****** your wife" on hit em up, his **** was no where near an ether as far as diss tracks are concerned and I honestly don't think he wanted it to be or needed it to be for this. All he needed was exactly what he did because his words, combined with is careful execution would make Meek ether his damn self while he sat back and laughed and ****...is that not exactly what happened? Meek became a laughing stock, he became the butt of every joke on Social media, radio clowned him, blogs clowned him, thugs clowned him, corporations clowned him, politicians clowned him, athletes clowned him, other rappers talked about him, other industry people talked about him, **** was brutal night before last and drake was prolly chillen at his crib with the next two big booty strippers he gonna make a song about one day with laughing.

His strategy (along with Meek's incredible ability to flop) hurt meek in more than one way. His credibility took a hit, his messiness ended up on full display to the world which will hurt his relationships in the industry more than likely, and the worst of all is his deficiencies at his craft were really exposed which is the worst to me because that's his livelihood basically. People might not pay attention to your rap skills when they shaking their *** in the club to you flowing over a tight *** beat with a good punchline, but they sure are gonna pay attention when you dissin another artist and they really invested in what you saying and not just how it sounds or makes them feel and his diss track showed just how mediocre he is at his basic craft. It's tragic lmao

Meek really took so many L's, I almost feel bad for him....almost tho, I can't really feel bad when you pretty much brought it all on yourself because you *****made and just not smart.

 

[rrlegend]

please get sinbad out of here , not a fan of either really but can't stand no sucker ish. Yeah drake is baby lotion soft but he's not meek mill annoying . Mills trying to expose someone for not writing his own material as fake but is signed to Rick Ross smh. This last month has been comedy though ghost face and Bronson set it off nicely lol

 

[gentrification]

Idk but his fan base is hood dudes. These ****** was so excited to see meek, like the hood guru [emoji]128514[/emoji]. One of my homeboys said his homie was talking about he motivated now, like negro this dude performed imma boss and levels now u just wanna get some paper? [emoji]128514[/emoji][emoji]128514[/emoji]

 

 

[All_$tar1997]

 

[feeture]

So two chicks twitter cacklin is what put the battery in his back, allegedly?

Cmon g. U decided to move like a broad. Smh.

 

[mrdeeds]

The only part of any of what @FLESH PRINCE   posted that makes no sense is T.I. directing any irritation at Drama.

T.I. has a good relationship with Meek and I guarantee he hit Meek's line if he was irritated by being mentioned in the diss track.

Which makes me question if there's any accuracy to anything else posted.  I couldn't bring myself to read the wall of text.

It's time to let this supposed beef die down.  It became even cornier than it already was when I saw how many more companies tried to get in on mentioning it yesterday.

 

[$tacy]

Dudes were calling drama a sucka/corny for leaking the references but I bet they don't call ar-ab corny for telling secrets [emoji]128514[/emoji]. Its beef anything goes, can't put rules to this **** man. If drake got the death blow let that **** out, u don't spare nobody career, he told the world u got pissed on, that's all the reason to go there if u got that info.

 

[301216baller]

What's the story behind ar-an n meek beef..,I remember dude was vouching for him during the Cassidy beef

 

[$tacy]

I'm not buying that Nicki and Taylor **** putting the battery in his back but everything else makes sense. But idk I think drake did it right. I couldn't imagine son having a GANGSTA grillz it just sounds off. Drake and gangsta on the same cover ain't right. But him not showing to the concert n meek approaching him about the tracks kinda make sense and why the diss took so long to drop.

 

[301216baller]

I wonder how meek gonna come back from this situation I've never seen a rapper get clowned his bad before lol...it is kinda sad

 

[8pm at msg]

I think Ja Ruke got it slightly worse than this

 

[flesh prince]

I'm not buying that Nicki and Taylor **** putting the battery in his back but everything else makes sense. But idk I think drake did it right. I couldn't imagine son having a GANGSTA grillz it just sounds off. Drake and gangsta on the same cover ain't right. But him not showing to the concert n meek approaching him about the tracks kinda make sense and why the diss took so long to drop.

Pharrell and Drama got a Gangsta Grillz. From 06 a prequel to In My Mind.

And that **** is 

.

I think he should have did it, I would have liked those Drama **** talking ad libs. They should have just put the Drama version out for free and the No DJ version on iTunes.

 

[flesh prince]

I wonder how meek gonna come back from this situation I've never seen a rapper get clowned his bad before lol...it is kinda sad

Put out a second diss tonight or tomorrow. Just to at least TRY and redeem himself. Barring some information we don't know (and IDK what could hurt Drake at this point if people don't care about him getting smacked and pissed on like a IG Thot in Dubai), I don't think Meek is winning this in public perception.

Put out his diss track tonight or tomorrow, let Drake put out his death blow track Monday and let this die down and come back in a few months with some good music.

 

[mrdeeds]

I think he should have did it, I would have liked those Drama **** talking ad libs. They should have just put the Drama version out for free and the No DJ version on iTunes.

Drama said he wanted to do a tape with Drake when he was on the breakfast club so I believe everything about the tape so far.

The tape didn't happen because Cash Money heard the mixtape before it was released and basically said the music was too good to give away free and didn't clear it.

For Drake it was a win/win situation because that was one less album he was on the hook for with Cash Money.  I don't think he tried to screw Drama but it's obvious Drama felt a way.

 

[delete1234]

Ja rule had it worse because it was ja rule vs

D12
EMINEM
Obie trice
Busts rhymes
DMX
50 cent
GUNIT

I'm probably forgetting some THE WHOLE SHADY AFTERMATH/GUNIT came for his head

 

[$tatus $ymbol]

Drama knew what he was doing. Put his integrity on the line for what lol

Why am I reading about teas n ****? Tf is this LSA?

I'm out this whole

 

[Deleted member 107398]

Truth be told if it was done thru Gangsta Grillz, it wouldn't have been as big...people love the fact this mixtape sounds like an album, it's "legitimized" to the suburban crowd, they are not about to play a tape with dj stuff all over it, that's more for the hood...IMO

 

[mrdeeds]

Ja rule had it worse because it was ja rule vs

D12
EMINEM
Obie trice
Busts rhymes
DMX
50 cent
GUNIT

I'm probably forgetting some

THE WHOLE SHADY AFTERMATH/GUNIT came for his head

Nah, Ja had support from other people that weren't feeling 50 and G-Unit.  They just weren't going on record about it till later on when New York came out.

The beef between him and DMX was for years.  It started before 50 and was still on after 50.  Nothing was going to come of it though because DMX's beef was Ja and there was way too much respect between DMX and Irv for anything to really happen.

Busta didn't do a song he just said at the end of a record that Ja should mention his name.  I doubt Ja was worried about Em and those Detroit cats when 50 was a problem in his own backyard.

You mentioned Obie Tryce, I haven't heard that name in years.

 

[flesh prince]

Drama knew what he was doing. Put his integrity on the line for what lol

Why am I reading about teas n ****? Tf is this LSA?

I'm out this whole

 That's where it came from. Apparently a ***** on there knows or knows someone that knows Drama's girl. 

 

[heliumclinton]

Dudes were calling drama a sucka/corny for leaking the references but I bet they don't call ar-ab corny for telling secrets [emoji]128514[/emoji]. Its beef anything goes, can't put rules to this **** man. If drake got the death blow let that **** out, u don't spare nobody career, he told the world u got pissed on, that's all the reason to go there if u got that info.

We're calling Drama a sucker because we actually know he did some snake ****

We don't have a clue what AR-Ab said or didn't say. We calling people snitches based on?

 

[mrdeeds]

If I was Meek, I'd embrace all the hate and go after any and everybody that I'm not feeling in the industry.

People have picked sides and showed him they aren't with him so there isn't much to lose.

If he wants to do what he said which was make nothing but trap music well then do that, he could gain steam by dropping a mixtape with actual good music in a couple weeks.

 

[revan]

Why would Drama do this to himself?

Not sure I'm buying this.

 

[keko jones]

What hurt Meek the most was Flex and having a time schedule for his release.

He should of have just drop the **** on his own ... Instead you have a dude that just talked smacked amp the **** up and made dudes listen to 3 hours of BS before it played.

At that point dudes where already mad about the wait and the product didn't sorry the anticipation.

 

[$tacy]

Drama ain't losing out on nothing. Artist still gonna do tapes with him and no matter what meek does he can't win in the public eye. He release a etheresque type joint people not even gonna embrace it. Twitter, burger king etc gonna post their waiting for drake to kill him gifs and tweets and if he drops something average they will clown him. Drake drops etheresque meek will get clowned more, he drops another charged up they big up the diss and still clown him. Might as well let it die.