Nigeria bans gay marriage, gay meetings -- Does so secretly

• Are you therefore saying that individual sexual rights by default should always ascend group rights? If principle objection on moral, religious and cultural grounds exist by the majority why should they not object to it?

• "Why does the gay lobby always oversimplify the problem, as "we just want what you want"? when every year they gain ground into new territories? Passionate language to hide the reality of homosuperiority.

• “Are you denying Africa’s right to carve out its own moral path in this world?”

• “Are Africans only civilized once they have assimilated all of the habits and customs of the West?”

• “Does plurality not give us the right to disagree and enforce the majority moral sensibility which is against promoting or nursing of so-called gay rights?”

• "Is the religious orientation of the democratic majority to be disregarded to allow unions, which are against those majority values?"

• "Do Western gay pressure groups have the right to impose policy on sovereign African countries which have democratic process?"

• "Does the West not have an impossibly long history of destructive interference in the people potential of Africans?"

• Are organizations not singing the "gay rights" anthem not denied funding? Regardless of the good work they do in critical areas?

• 1000s of women are raped in Africa, is it fair to then focus on the absolute minority that are victims of "corrective rape", as if this is so widespread in Africa? Is it only "noteworthy" when gay women are raped?

• "Does the Gay lobby not have a "win" at any price policy, by blocking and persecuting it detractors. Is this how the values of democracy are enshrined? Absence of criticism is tyranny. Yet the webspace, media space, film space is dominated by one position. Disagree and lose your job, or your fan base. Deliberately excluding all quality critique? Nothing is spared not God, and not culture. Even the word "natural" and "normal" should be redefined to accommodate a sexual abnormality"

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• They compare homosexuality to pedophilia.
• They describe homosexuality as a "gateway to immorality"
• They say that homosexuality endangers family norms and the sanctity of the institution of marriage.

Fontaine said:

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PLVN said:

Here's the link to your source since you didn't include it in your post.

The big argument there seems to be that a condemnation of anti-gay behavior is an attack on the cultures of Africa as a whole.

• They compare homosexuality to pedophilia.
• They describe homosexuality as a "gateway to immorality"
• They say that homosexuality endangers family norms and the sanctity of the institution of marriage.

A lot of the rhetoric there is IDENTICAL to what anti-gay Evangelicals say here in the US.

I don't want to spoil all the fun though...there are a TON of gems there and I encourage everyone to read it.

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•Are you therefore saying that individual sexual rights by default should always ascend group rights? If principle objection on moral, religious and cultural grounds exist by the majority why should they not object to it?
•"Why does the gay lobby always oversimplify the problem, as "we just want what you want"? when every year they gain ground into new territories? Passionate language to hide the reality of homosuperiority.
•“Are you denying Africa’s right to carve out its own moral path in this world?”
•“Are Africans only civilized once they have assimilated all of the habits and customs of the West?”
•“Does plurality not give us the right to disagree and enforce the majority moral sensibility which is against promoting or nursing of so-called gay rights?”
•"Is the religious orientation of the democratic majority to be disregarded to allow unions, which are against those majority values?"
•"Do Western gay pressure groups have the right to impose policy on sovereign African countries which have democratic process?"
•"Does the West not have an impossibly long history of destructive interference in the people potential of Africans?"
•Are organizations not singing the "gay rights" anthem not denied funding? Regardless of the good work they do in critical areas?
•1000s of women are raped in Africa, is it fair to then focus on the absolute minority that are victims of "corrective rape", as if this is so widespread in Africa? Is it only "noteworthy" when gay women are raped?
•"Does the Gay lobby not have a "win" at any price policy, by blocking and persecuting it detractors. Is this how the values of democracy are enshrined? Absence of criticism is tyranny. Yet the webspace, media space, film space is dominated by one position. Disagree and lose your job, or your fan base. Deliberately excluding all quality critique? Nothing is spared not God, and not culture. Even the word "natural" and "normal" should be redefined to accommodate a sexual abnormality"

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ISNx2 said:

i live in sf, i have/had gay friends.
But i def agree with those 3 points

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goldenchild9 said:

But I'm wearing the tin foil hat?

Go to bed, you're drunk.

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Originally Posted by ISNx2  

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PLVN said:

Here's the link to your source since you didn't include it in your post.

The big argument there seems to be that a condemnation of anti-gay behavior is an attack on the cultures of Africa as a whole.
 

• They compare homosexuality to pedophilia.
• They describe homosexuality as a "gateway to immorality"
• They say that homosexuality endangers family norms and the sanctity of the institution of marriage.

A lot of the rhetoric there is IDENTICAL to what anti-gay Evangelicals say here in the US.

I don't want to spoil all the fun though...there are a TON of gems there and I encourage everyone to read it.

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i live in sf, i have/had gay friends.
But i def agree with those 3 points

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Baktun said:

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• Are you therefore saying that individual sexual rights by default should always ascend group rights? If principle objection on moral, religious and cultural grounds exist by the majority why should they not object to it?
  

• "Why does the gay lobby always oversimplify the problem, as "we just want what you want"? when every year they gain ground into new territories? Passionate language to hide the reality of homosuperiority.
  

• “Are you denying Africa’s right to carve out its own moral path in this world?”
  

• “Are Africans only civilized once they have assimilated all of the habits and customs of the West?”
  

• “Does plurality not give us the right to disagree and enforce the majority moral sensibility which is against promoting or nursing of so-called gay rights?”
  

• "Is the religious orientation of the democratic majority to be disregarded to allow unions, which are against those majority values?"
  

• "Do Western gay pressure groups have the right to impose policy on sovereign African countries which have democratic process?"
  

• "Does the West not have an impossibly long history of destructive interference in the people potential of Africans?"
  

• Are organizations not singing the "gay rights" anthem not denied funding? Regardless of the good work they do in critical areas?
  

• 1000s of women are raped in Africa, is it fair to then focus on the absolute minority that are victims of "corrective rape", as if this is so widespread in Africa? Is it only "noteworthy" when gay women are raped?
  

• "Does the Gay lobby not have a "win" at any price policy, by blocking and persecuting it detractors. Is this how the values of democracy are enshrined? Absence of criticism is tyranny. Yet the webspace, media space, film space is dominated by one position. Disagree and lose your job, or your fan base. Deliberately excluding all quality critique? Nothing is spared not God, and not culture. Even the word "natural" and "normal" should be redefined to accommodate a sexual abnormality"
  

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Baktun said:

What in the world??? What a shame, y'all being real loud and wrong with the assumptions onhere.   Y'all need to stop with the reaching and provide a valid counterargument already.


BTW, the link was already posted, read it and come back to me.

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goldenchild9 said:

Baktun said:

What in the world??? What a shame, y'all being real loud and wrong with the assumptions onhere.   Y'all need to stop with the reaching and provide a valid counterargument already.


BTW, the link was already posted, read it and come back to me.

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Dudes are so used to travelling in flocks, their brains fry when someone challenges their sheepish world view.

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goldenchild9 said:

Dudes are so used to travelling in flocks, their brains fry when someone challenges their sheepish world view.

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goldenchild9 said:

Exactly.

Traditional family structure, social order, reproductive and cultural practices are currently being deconstructed and rebuilt....not because of a widespread organic r/evolution or a desperate grassroots movement...rather this is just the current aristocracy paving the way for new technocratic paradigm of control. And our unsocial social network generation is just following their lead, as we do with everything else.

We're not becoming more free, we're simply opening up more markets for reproductive manipulation, total extermination of indigenous cultural practices, genetic manipulation, implantable technologies etc.

Women are handing over their traditional rights as arbiters of reproduction to Biotech companies, thinking that they're gaining some new measure of power in society.

Men are throwing off the weighty cloaks of social leadership, to become effeminate powerless consumers.

Gender lines, interpersonal relationships, mating rituals, social roles....are all being blurred and rebuilt in a way that only empowers Celgene, Google, Biogen, Facebook, Monsanto etc.

We're not becoming a "freer" society. We're really just handing over the last vestiges of true freedom to our Orwellian overlords.

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goldenchild9 said:

Exactly.

Traditional family structure, social order, reproductive and cultural practices are currently being deconstructed and rebuilt....not because of a widespread organic r/evolution or a desperate grassroots movement...rather this is just the current aristocracy paving the way for new technocratic paradigm of control. And our unsocial social network generation is just following their lead, as we do with everything else.

We're not becoming more free, we're simply opening up more markets for reproductive manipulation, total extermination of indigenous cultural practices, genetic manipulation, implantable technologies etc.

Women are handing over their traditional rights as arbiters of reproduction to Biotech companies, thinking that they're gaining some new measure of power in society.

Men are throwing off the weighty cloaks of social leadership, to become effeminate powerless consumers.

Gender lines, interpersonal relationships, mating rituals, social roles....are all being blurred and rebuilt in a way that only empowers Celgene, Google, Biogen, Facebook, Monsanto etc.

We're not becoming a "freer" society. We're really just handing over the last vestiges of true freedom to our Orwellian overlords.

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LIONBLOOD said:

goldenchild9 said:

Dudes are so used to travelling in flocks, their brains fry when someone challenges their sheepish world view.

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lol @ sheepish, son acting like he's the only homophobe on the planet.  


You're not the first person to ever go on rants about how social order will be deconstructed if a group was more "free". I'm sure when they freed the slaves dudes were going on similar rants about values and handing over power....yet here we are.

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