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The clear answer isn't EXACTLY Cliff Harris. In terms of album sales, billboard 100 and movie deals... Yeah Cliff would be no.1. BUT! In 2014 nobody is checking for T.I. Nobody went and bought "No Mercy" and "TroubleMan". T.I. Ain't been buzzin' since "Paper Trail" in 08'. Cliff's relevancy has faded solely because of the silly jail stints.

Ross is one of the hottest rappers on the market today. Yeah he hasn't found a single for "Mastermind" or even a hit as big a "BMF" but he's definitely sought after and has a growing fan base. He's built MMG from the ground up and is on every other feature. You might have to give the nod to Ricky RIGHT NOW. But in terms of overall career. Cliff wins.

shut up

what you saying makes no sense. he said better career....so everything you're saying about Ross is irrelevant

because in his CAREER TIP has literally topped everything Ross has. Ross has never even gone plat

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The clear answer isn't EXACTLY Cliff Harris. In terms of album sales, billboard 100 and movie deals... Yeah Cliff would be no.1. BUT! In 2014 nobody is checking for T.I. Nobody went and bought "No Mercy" and "TroubleMan". T.I. Ain't been buzzin' since "Paper Trail" in 08'. Cliff's relevancy has faded solely because of the silly jail stints.

Ross is one of the hottest rappers on the market today. Yeah he hasn't found a single for "Mastermind" or even a hit as big a "BMF" but he's definitely sought after and has a growing fan base. He's built MMG from the ground up and is on every other feature. You might have to give the nod to Ricky RIGHT NOW. But in terms of overall career. Cliff wins.

So "nobody" bought Troubleman yet it went Gold.

Ross is one of the hottest rappers but can't get his album out.

You start your thread with "The clear answer isn't EXACTLY Cliff Harris."

And end it with "Cliff wins."

Sandwiched between is a gang on nonsense.

C'mon son......
 
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really not much of a debate, TIP was at the top of the game at one point of his career. None of the others can claim that.
 
So "nobody" bought Troubleman yet it went Gold.

Ross is one of the hottest rappers but can't get his album out.

You start your thread with "The clear answer isn't EXACTLY Cliff Harris."

And end it with "Cliff wins."

Sandwiched between is a gang on nonsense.

C'mon son......

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How long it take for "TroubleMan" to go gold. "God Forgives, I Don't" went gold and is probably platinum now too. So what are you even saying!? Cliff hanging on his name just to sell units. Let's keep it real, @illPhilip.
 
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*dead* at "watch your mouth"

But yes, its T.I. and it shouldn't even be a debate, unless you started listening to rap in 2010.

And I'm pretty sure GFID isn't platinum. It was under 600K in late 2012, so I doubt it sold 400K since then
 
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TIP and it's not really close. He dropped more albums and had the streets on lock eight years ago. son has been in movies and has even had his own tv shows.
 
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How long it take for "TroubleMan" to go gold. "God Forgives, I Don't" went gold and is probably platinum now too. So what are you even saying!? Cliff hanging on his name just to sell units. Let's keep it real, @illPhilip.


*dead* at "watch your mouth"

But yes, its T.I. and it shouldn't even be a debate, unless you started listening to rap in 2010.

And I'm pretty sure GFID isn't platinum. It was under 600K in late 2012, so I doubt it sold 400K since then

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Son was talkin' to me, like how he probably talks to his girlfriend. Outta here with that. :lol:

Ohhh okay then. Yeah Cliff has the better overall career. Ross is the biggest name on the list OP wrote, RIGHT NOW.
 
Yo one of those names flat out doesn't belong and it aint Ross. 
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So "nobody" bought Troubleman yet it went Gold.

Ross is one of the hottest rappers but can't get his album out.

You start your thread with "The clear answer isn't EXACTLY Cliff Harris."

And end it with "Cliff wins."

Sandwiched between is a gang on nonsense.

C'mon son......

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How long it take for "TroubleMan" to go gold. "God Forgives, I Don't" went gold and is probably platinum now too. So what are you even saying!? Cliff hanging on his name just to sell units. Let's keep it real, @illPhilip.

Who cares how long it took? It went Gold. You said "nobody" bought it. You're already backtracking.

T.I. was also on damn near the biggest record of 2013, like it or not. Still has his TV show. Did at least one movie.

"God Forgives, I Don't" hasn't even cracked 600,000 units. Yet you think it's "probably platinum now too"?

So what are YOU even saying? You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

Care to dig that hole any deeper?

Boy, you wouldn't even know where to begin keeping it "real".
 
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Son was talkin' to me, like how he probably talks to his girlfriend. Outta here with that. :lol:

Ohhh okay then. Yeah Cliff has the better overall career. Ross is the biggest name on the list OP wrote, RIGHT NOW.


Who cares how long it took? It went Gold. You said "nobody" bought it. You're already backtracking.

T.I. was also on damn near the biggest record of 2013, like it or not. Still has his TV show. Did at least one movie.

"God Forgives, I Don't" hasn't even cracked 600,000 units. Yet you think it's "probably platinum now too"?

So what are YOU even saying? You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

Care to dig that hole any deeper?

Boy, you wouldn't even know where to begin keeping it "real".

I already said that T.I. Has the better career to date. Now, if were talkin' about relevancy today. You must not follow hip-hop to think that Ross isn't way more relevant than Cliff. Look at MMG Vs Hustle Gang for example. Nobody in this thread can even name the members of Hustle Gang. Let alone, no one cares.

your my guy dipset but your opinion on music makes me cringe :x x:stoneface: x>: x0] x:lol:

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Why is Philip even trying? :lol:


We just laugh at Dipsets nonsense and keep it moving.

You keep it moving.
 
I already said that T.I. Has the better career to date. Now, if were talkin' about relevancy today. You must not follow hip-hop to think that Ross isn't way more relevant than Cliff. Look at MMG Vs Hustle Gang for example. Nobody in this thread can even name the members of Hustle Gang. Let alone, no one cares.
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You keep it moving.


You just did the thing where someone sits down and then you say "That's right sit down" like you made them do it :lol:

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Yeah he got paper cool cool, so do a lot of other people in this world but....

In 2014 TIP is wifed up with that filthy bird, an I'm being extremely polite, he's losing every night he goes to sleep next to that. 
 
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I already said that T.I. Has the better career to date. Now, if were talkin' about relevancy today.

What is the title of this thread?

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You can keep your "relevancy". That term is for lames when it comes to music/artists. Because it's subjective and it can change from one day to the next. None of these dudes is "relevant" to me or my life.

Their last albums are separated by about 50,000 units. But one is on TV and in flicks.

So how is the other more "relevant" exactly when TI has his own ******g TV show? Just did a major deal with Columbia. But the other can't get his album out.

That's your opinion. Which has shown itself time and time again to be completely misguided.

As for Hustle Gang, well, BOB is in there. So is Young Dro.

And realistically, BOB may have the biggest career of any artist on either MMG or Hustle Gang. You must not follow Hip Hop if you don't know that.

So you're still failing. I just want to make sure you're aware of that.

As for why I bother, I just can't let people spew misinformation like this.

Unfortunately, the internet has given everyone a voice. And this is how misinformation and foolishness spread.

End rant.
 
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I'm going Ross with popularity, but looking back Fabolous or T.I. were more popular than Ross ever was.
 


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What is the title of this thread?

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You can keep your "relevancy". That term is for lames when it comes to music/artists. Because it's subjective and it can change from one day to the next. None of these dudes is "relevant" to me or my life.

Their last albums are separated by about 50,000 units. But one is on TV and in flicks.

So how is the other more "relevant" exactly when TI has his own ******g TV show? Just did a major deal with Columbia. But the other can't get his album out.

That's your opinion. Which has shown itself time and time again to be completely misguided.

As for Hustle Gang, well, BOB is in there. So is Young Dro.

And realistically, BOB may have the biggest career of any artist on either MMG or Hustle Gang. You must not follow Hip Hop if you don't know that.

So you're still failing. I just want to make sure you're aware of that.

As for why I bother, I just can't let people spew misinformation like this.

Unfortunately, the internet has given everyone a voice. And this is how misinformation and foolishness spread.

End rant.

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BOB. Son, c'mon. Ain't nobody checking for BOB or Dro. Bob had one smash single. C'mon man. Dro is nice but he's done. Ya gonna seriously sit here and say Dro and BOB are more poppin' that Meek n' Wale?! I'm out after that :smh: . Ain't no one coppin' "Underground Luxury"
 
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