:::[Official] San Francisco 49ers 2024 Offseason Thread [NFC CHAMPIONS]:::

Should UnicornHunter’s faithful card be revoked for his blasphemous Patrick Willis comments?

  • Yes permanently

    Votes: 31 79.5%
  • Yes temporarily

    Votes: 5 12.8%
  • No

    Votes: 3 7.7%

  • Total voters
    39
  • Poll closed .
Why do I have this ominous hunch that Trent will pick DGB at 15? I don't know why but it feels inevitable. I would shake my head in disbelief and be excited at the same time. :\

I thought about that too the other day my best friend is a coach out in miss rivaled his High school and they knew how talented he is but his troubles got around real quick around town i hate it because he has so much talent just like josh gordon but will fk it all up in a heartbeat its a gamble
 
I'm watching it too.  Such an awful first half and there's still the kickoff return that's about to happen.  

I dismissed this comment by Phil Simms at the time but now I've accepted it - Kaep has no anticipation.  He must see his guy open to throw it.  So elementary and that won't get you anywhere in this league.  

Also, I can't watch Culliver cluelessly try to cover someone anymore.  Hope he's not back.  
 
Watching it as well :smh:

Gona turn it off after Gore long run at the end though.. :lol:
 
Kaep looks really good; pass protection looked much better. Nice to have speedsters like Moss, Walker and Ginn back then; seemed to open everything up. Our Safety combo back then also was nuts.
 
 I don't know about you guys, but the most painful loss of the Harbaugh era to me was the NFCC vs NYG. I loved that team and that defense.
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That defense was special. 

Watching this SB replay makes me excited as **** to have Bowman back. 
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kap looked way better in 2012 than he did last year. showed poise, awareness and accuracy on that last drive. look off the zone coverage and rifles one into crabs on the deep post..what the ****.
 
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Kaep ran more in 2012. Plus defenses are more ready for the read option which Kaep ran very well in 2012. Kaep's accuracy isn't good enough to win when they are behind.
 
besides early 90s bills' fans, i don't know who's had more consecutive heartbreaks in recent history than the 49ers. NFCCG, SB, and then NFCCG; three games that were within reach (literally our fingertips)...but whatever, this kinda crap makes winning that much sweeter


can't wait to see this defense get its anchors back next season. my math may be off here but 52+53+59+94+99 = SUPER BOWL 50.
 
I watch highlights of the NFCCG vs the falcons regularly :lol:

That 2012 team was fun to watch when Kap took over...

That 2011 defense was :x tho and the offense didn't turn the ball over at all that year.

Not sure which one of those losses hurt the most anymore, they were all pretty bad

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You guys are brave watching that mess again :lol:

They had sb 47 and the 2011 NFCCG on YouTube a couple months ago and I watched both...

Then, I found the divisional game against the falcons :stoneface:

The 92 NFCCG is up now [emoji]128553[/emoji]

So many heartbreaking losses, man...
 
That Giants game was bad because we were ******* winning for most of the game and the killed us in the regular season that year.
 
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Kaep ran more in 2012. Plus defenses are more ready for the read option which Kaep ran very well in 2012. Kaep's accuracy isn't good enough to win when they are behind.
This is 100% fallacy, and I am one of Kap's harshest critics around here. "Kap isn't accurate", "Kap can't go through progressions", "Kap can't read defenses", etc.

This is ALL fallacy. The problem is not that he can or he can't, but that he is ridiculously inconsistent at everything. One play he'll flash and the next he'll regress and look like a ******* bum. He literally needs to go back to the fundamentals(which he is with Kurt Warner), and he needs to drill and hammer everything in until it's instinctive. A lot of this right here is the fault of coaching. Hopefully Steve Logan is up for the task.

I also agree with what @Hyper Cutter  said about Kap benefiting from Alex. It is widely accepted by contemporary academia that we retain the most information from working directly with our peers, and Kap benefited HUGELY from having Alex in his corner.

Steve Logan is probably the most exciting hire we made, and this article right here, albeit long, does a great job of explaining why:
 [h1]San Francisco 49ers: Steve Logan Will Make a Great Quarterbacks Coach in 2015[/h1]
There is definitely a growing undercurrent of dissatisfaction among San Francisco 49ers  fans over the recent coaching changes. This is entirely understandable, considering the quality of the coaches replaced.

Jim Harbaugh is tied for second all-time  in most wins in his first four seasons as head coach with 44, and he set the record for most playoff wins in his first three seasons with five. He was immediately hired to be the head coach of a high-profile college team, and both coordinators Greg Roman and Vic Fangio  quickly found equivalent jobs as well.

Making matters more frustrating is the relatively low profiles of the coaches replacing them. It would be one thing if the 49ers had replaced Harbaugh and company with either a highly successful former coach like Mike Shanahan or a hot up-and-comer like AdamGase, but they instead went with Jim Tomsula, a man with no coordinator experience at the NFL  level.

Similarly, neither offensive coordinator Geep  Chryst’s tenure with the Ryan Leaf-era San Diego Chargers  nor defensive coordinator Eric Mangini’s run with the New England Patriots  precisely set the world on fire.

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It's been a while, but Steve Logan knows his football.

I’m generally in the camp that considers the hirings  less than thrilling, but there is one assistant coach who actually inspires quite a bit of confidence.

Tomsula  dipped back into his NFL Europe days and named Steve Logan as the quarterbacks coach, and Logan is an interesting candidate for the job. He’s the best hiring the 49ers have made this offseason.

If you’re not familiar with Logan, you’re not alone. He’s been out of coaching since 2011, when he left the Tampa Bay Buccaneers  as part of the mass exodus after the Raheem  Morris firing, and he has spent the last three years as a radio host in Raleigh. That, admittedly, is not the best recent resume.

Before that, however, Logan had a lot of success. He was head coach at East Carolina  from 1992 through 2002, compiling a 69-58 record and overseeing the transition from an independent school to Conference USA.

His team made bowl game appearances in five of his 11 seasons, which matched the number the school had managed to put up in the previous 37 seasons combined.

They could have gone to several more bowls as well, but as an independent school, they didn’t have the same bowl tie-ins as major conferences; in 1996, for example, Logan’s team went 8-3 and yet stayed home.

More important than just the win-loss record are the sorts of players Logan coached, especially at the quarterback position. As a coordinator or head coach at East Carolina, Logan helped recruit and develop Jeff Blake and David Garrard, both of whom went on to solid, Pro Bowl-level NFL careers.

Later in his career, as offensive coordinator for Boston College, Logan helped develop Matt Ryan, another Pro Bowl quarterback. That’s a pretty impressive pedigree.

Logan’s also had success with less talented quarterbacks. In NFL Europe, with the Berlin Thunder and Rhein  Fire, Logan coached back-to-back Offensive Player of the Year winners Dave Ragone  and RohanDavey. That speaks to the “teacher” attributes that Jed York stressedwhen hiring a head coach, and it sounds like exactly the sort of person you want working with a developing quarterback like ColinKaepernick.

Couple it with more than 30 years of coaching at various levels, and you have the right background for this sort of role.

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Logan's radio show gives insight into his coaching philosophy.

I also appreciate Logan's openness and clarity of vision. It’s been a frustrating offseason for 49ers fans because the team has been so closed and opaque about the hiring process.

The most notable interview with anyone of the new coaching staff was Tomsula’s painfully awkward  one-on-one session with CSN  Bay Area. It’s made trying to figure out what the team will be doing extraordinarily difficult.

Perhaps because of his radio background, Logan has been the opposite of that to this point. Logan had a great half-hour interview onESPN Radio in Raleigh  explaining his decision to rejoin the coaching ranks and what he sees in Kaepernick  specifically, as well as flashing his football knowledge by accurately previewing the Super Bowl.

I highly encourage you to listen to the entire interview, as he clearly lays out what he views as Kaepernick’s strengths. It’s a refreshing bit of openness and transparency from what has been a tight-lipped front office and coaching staff so far.

Logan talked about how Kaepernick  checks the boxes of “accuracy and decision-making,” which may come as something of a surprise to 49ers fans who have complained about Kaepernick’s one-read tendencies and poor touch on throws.

Obviously, Logan isn’t going to bury his new quarterback in his first interview, but he’s not just puffing Kaepernick  up—there are signs thatKaepernick  can be very accurate and precise as a passer.

Before the bye week this past season, Kaepernick  had an accuracy percentage of 77.4, according to Pro Football Focus, which was fifth-best in the league. That’s a better metric than just completion percentage, because it takes out the effects of drops, throwaways, spikes, tipped passes and times when the quarterback was hit as he was throwing.

That was more accurate than Peyton Manning, Tom Brady andAndrew Luck  over the same period. Kaepernick, along with the rest of the offense, struggled in the back half of the season, with his accuracy dropping to 72.6 percent  over the full season. But the ability is there to be precise and consistent.

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Logan had nothing but praise for Kaepernick.

Even the 72.6 percent mark is a significant improvement overKaepernick’s 2013 numbers, meaning that he’s trending up in accuracy. I think that’s what Logan’s seeing—not thatKaepernick’s currently the most accurate passer in the world, but that’s he’s improving and has shown the ability to be a top-accurate passer.

Logan also gets marks for saying that his first goal is to “do no harm” with Kaepernick. It seems like Greg Roman and the previous offensive staff at times tried to fit Kaepernick  like a square peg in a round hole.

By going away from the power rushing game and read-option thatKaepernick  succeeded with in 2012 and 2013, they played away fromKaepernick’s strengths.

That’s not to say the 49ers can just bust out a college-style offense, runKaepernick  25 times a game and expect success. Kaepernick  needs to develop more as a passer in order for the team to have success.

At the same time, the offense needs to be tuned to fit Kaepernick’s strengths as well—it’s something where the offense and quarterback need to meet halfway.

Take a look at the Super Bowl for what I’m talking about—if you had swapped Tom Brady and Russell Wilson  and had them try to run the other’s offense, it would have been horrible. The offenses are designed to accentuate their quarterbacks’ strengths.

The Patriots rely on short, accurate passes, with Brady’s average pass traveling just 5.9 yards downfield  in the Super Bowl, according to Football Outsiders. The Seahawks, on the other hand, rely more on Wilson’s legs and arm for the deep ball—13 of Wilson’s 21 passes were bombs downfield.

Both offenses are designed to play into their quarterbacks' strengths, where it felt like the 49ers were trying to force Kaepernick  into an uncomfortable offense based on what they felt a quarterback "should" do.

That brings us back to Logan’s “do no harm” credo. Logan raved aboutKaepernick’s “special, special abilities” when it comes to mobility, top-end speed and short-area quickness. He specifically talked aboutKaepernick’s 90-yard run against San Diego  and how that’s simply not done in the NFL.

It sounds like the offense that Chryst  and Logan will put together will be designed to accentuate Kaepernick’s strengths, which is precisely what needs to be done. Take this quote into account, from a different segment on Logan’s radio show, for example:
But I'll still take the mobility at the sacrifice of accuracy. You can have the accuracy and lose the mobility, and now you've got Tom Brady. That's good. But guess what, Rex Ryan, the Baltimore Ravens, go look at Tom Brady's numbers against those two defenses, they fall dramatically. I still want a mobile quarterback.
Logan’s not saying that accuracy is unimportant. He’s pointing out that you can have all the accuracy in the world and it won’t matter if you can’t get out of the way of oncoming pressure.

He's pointing out that an increase in mobility can take a quarterback to another level faster than an increase in accuracy can. I’m not sure Brady is necessarily the best comparison there, but his point stands.

Logan also has a video breaking down post-huddle adjustments, especially on the zone-read offense. This is one area where Kaepernickcan stand to improve—making adjustments in a timely and efficient manner at the line of scrimmage.

After watching that video, I feel that Logan is the right guy to helpKaepernick  develop that area of his game. San Francisco fans might also enjoy Logan’s breaking down of how to get a play call in, considering how many times the 49ers either had a delay of game or had to blow a timeout simply to get the right call on offense.

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Hopefully, Logan will help Kaepernick take the next step in his development.

The more I listen to and watch Logan, the more I find to like. He’s a refreshing change from the run-silent approach that has characterized the front office so far this offseason.

Both his history working with quarterbacks and his specific opinions on offensive philosophy give me confidence he’s the right person to get the most out ofKaepernick.

While most of the rest of the coaching staff still needs to prove they can handle the jobs they’ve  been given, Steve Logan has won me over, and I think he will win 49ers fans over as well.

Jim Tomsula’s connections have found a great person to fill the quarterback coach role in 2015.
 
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You can't be accurate if you are consistently inconsistent. He's shown flashes of brilliance but more consistently he is ineptness.

The worst part about this past season was his inability to connect with Vernon Davis.
 
You can't be accurate if you are consistently inconsistent. He's shown flashes of brilliance but more consistently he is ineptness.

The worst part about this past season was his inability to connect with Vernon Davis.
His inability to connect with Vernon? You don't think that was entirely Kap's fault, do you? How about the fact that Vernon half assed plays, couldn't gain separation and couldn't stay healthy? I can vividly remember a handful of plays where Vernon just gave up on a pass thrown his way. How about the birdseye camera in Seattle catching Vernon lackadaisically running down the field? 
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and yes, you can be accurate while being consistently inconsistent. That's the whole premise of being inconsistent. The ability is there. He's shown it.
 
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The more I revisit Devin Smith and evaluate his game, the more I like what I see. He needs a ton of work on the underneath stuff, but he is a murderer when it comes to stretching the field. His body control and ability to track the ball is sick on deep passes. I LOVE receivers who fly off the line. His acceleration on releases is 
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in the big 10 championship vs wisconsin

 
 
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Obviously it's not all Kaep's fault. I remember seeing passes sailing over Vernon's and all the Wr's heads on a consistent basis.

As good as their defense is, they'll never win a SB with Kaep at qb.
 
Obviously it's not all Kaep's fault. I remember seeing passes sailing over Vernon's and all the Wr's heads on a consistent basis.

As good as their defense is, they'll never win a SB with Kaep at qb.
This is probably too bold of a claim. Kaep isn't Rex Grossman... 

Consistency can be worked on and Kaep is taking the right (probably all) steps to be consistent. Big Ben is arguably consistently inconsistent and he's won... 
 
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kaep's inconsistency is not all on him. how quickly did his pocket collapse this season time and time again? while his poise under pressure leaves much to be desired, he's shown that he can eat up a secondary with adequate protection (the same can be said about many qbs, obviously)

which brings me to another point, kaep's accuracy out of the pocket and while scrambling is pretty damn amazing. he ate up that rams secondary in STL this season by buying time.. and that 60yard pass to crabs to extend that NO game. the ability is definitely there. if kaep can eventually learn how to complete passes off short routes and wr can get some ******* separation off the line, this team might finally score in the damn redzone
 
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