:::[Official] San Francisco 49ers 2024 Offseason Thread [NFC CHAMPIONS]:::

[rck3sactown]

Andy Lee to Cleveland for a 7th rd pick, per Adam Schefter


The Brandon Pinion era has begun

 

[ady2glude707]

LOL dang, this off-season from hell. Writing was on the wall though since they used a sixth found pick on a P.

 

[vinsanity]

Guess we can put a another red line through Lee on that list!!.....

 

[thasoleful1]

LOL dang, this off-season from hell. Writing was on the wall though since they used a sixth found pick on a P.

Lol what? They used a pick to bring competition Lee had a okay season which could mean he's on the decline. Pinion came in and did well in OTA. It's not the end of the world

 

[49ersaaron8]

I just hope Bow fully revovers. He is the heart and soul of that defense considering who's left at this point. I'm also expecting Dockett to have a major impact. Idk if anybody remembers how much problems he caused us through the years.

Still kind of blown we didn't use one of those 7ths for La'el Collins. But I can see how that could have resulted in a media frenzy.

 

[49ersaaron8]

On that note, I've been thinking the same thing w/ all the concussions he's had his 1st 2 years in league.

Also, thinking how probable it could be that in the very near future our starting safeties are Jimmie Ward and Jaquiski Tartt?

Bethea, you figure has a year or two left before retiring or being a cap hit and if Reid retires early b/c of health concerns; be trippy seeing Ward and Tartt ascend that quick to being starters when the positions seemed relatively locked in.

Baalke is the poster boy and endorsement of always drafting best player available b/c you never know what could randomly transpire in an offseason.

I posted an article after the draft about how Tartt and Ward are best friends and high school teammates both played safety. I'm sure Baalke knew about this and envisioned them being our safeties of the future. The notion of them having chemistry had Baalke salvating.

 

[hyper cutter]

Everyone has an Pinion. The 49ers at the very least will give me a reason to drink for celebration or misery. Win win.

Also, pretty sure we traded Andy Lee on some deceit stuff. He must've told us he's ready to retire and that we should at least trade him to get something in return...

 

[aNYone]

Everyone has an Pinion. The 49ers at the very least will give me a reason to drink for celebration or misery. Win win.

Also, pretty sure we traded Andy Lee on some deceit stuff. He must've told us he's ready to retire and that we should at least trade him to get something in return...

 

[ady2glude707]

LOL dang, this off-season from hell. Writing was on the wall though since they used a sixth found pick on a P.

Lol what? They used a pick to bring competition Lee had a okay season which could mean he's on the decline. Pinion came in and did well in OTA. It's not the end of the world

?? Not talking bout just the Lee trade, but the off season in general. You don't use a 5th round pick just to bring in competition for a P job. Lee's job was gone when that pick was made.

 

[red80]

Pinion has been kicking the **** out of the ball at OTAs. Looking like a young Andy Lee on roids out there.  We knew this **** was coming:

sounds like andy lee might be donezo. pinion booting the **** out of the ball.

Andy Lee was an all-time great 49er. 

 

Its a new era, boys.

Torrey Smith    Joe Staley - Brandon Thomas - Daniel Kilgore - Marcus Martin - Trent Brown  - Vernon Davis           Anquan Boldin

                                                                       Colin Kaepernick

                                                                                                Trey Millard

                                                                                         Carlos Hyde

Tramaine Brock                             Aaron Lynch - Quinton Dial  - Ian Williams  - Darnell Dockett - Aldon Smith       Dontae Johnson

                                                                                     Michael Willhoite      Navorro Bowman

                                                                           Eric Reid                         Antoine Bethea

 

[red80]

 

[49ersaaron8]

Red how much cap space do we have? Rough estimate a lot of salaries dumped so it seems.

 

[red80]

****, I will have to sit down and look at all the contracts. I know Andy saves us 2mil. We're probably right around $10mil below the cap before Anthony Davis gives back his signing bonus. We're not hurting for cap room that's for sure. 

 

 

[jonwin]

****, I will have to sit down and look at all the contracts. I know Andy saves us 2mil. We're probably right around $10mil below the cap before Anthony Davis gives back his signing bonus. We're not hurting for cap room that's for sure.   

Damn Red, so you got Boone being cut/traded or retiring since he's not listed on the o-line on your starters layout ?

 

[red80]

2 reasons:

-dude is absent again for the 2nd year in a row with the same contract ********

-hes not an ideal fit for our new zone blocking scheme. dude is too stiff and immobile on his feet for zone blocking.

not to mention he isn't in attendance to learn the new scheme wtf smh. ZBS is not like power running; there's a learning curve and you have to be coached up.

with that said, trent brown needs to lose a considerable amount of weight if he wants to shine in this scheme. dude is huge as ****. luckily, he seems very receptive and has already started slimming down.

 

[jonwin]

2 reasons:

-dude is absent again for the 2nd year in a row with the same contract ********

-hes not an ideal fit for our new zone blocking scheme. dude is too stiff and immobile on his feet for zone blocking.


not to mention he isn't in attendance to learn the new scheme wtf smh. ZBS is not like power running; there's a learning curve and you have to be coached up.

with that said, trent brown needs to lose a considerable amount of weight if he wants to shine in this scheme. dude is huge as ****. luckily, he seems very receptive and has already started slimming down.

Will def be keeping an eye and see how this plays out.

Nike needs to put a t-shirt out saying "RED KNOWS"

 

[Los Angeles]

Brandon thomas the rastafarian boutta smoke all these dudes

 

[red80]

 [h1]Why Brandon Thomas Is the San Francisco 49ers' Most Overlooked 2015 Starter[/h1]
If you look around the internet at mock drafts for the San Francisco 49ers, you’ll note a couple of patterns.

Plenty of draft experts have them adding to their stable of receivers, bolstering the defensive line or adding a top-flight cornerback.  All of these make varying amounts of sense and can logically be followed to scenarios where the 49ers would use the 15th pick on such a player, even if I think the need at cornerback is slightly overstated.

There is one pattern, however, that leaves me a bit confused—picking an offensive guard in the first round.  NFL.com’s Charles Davis has the 49ers taking La’el Collins, stating that he could “easily replace Mike Iupati at guard.”

The Niners Nation community mock draft ended up taking Collins as well, as did Bleacher Report’s Brent Sobleski.  Fox Sport’s Peter Schrager has them going with Miami’s Ereck Flowers, DraftAce has them taking Stanford’s Andrus Peat, and CSNPhilly.com’s Jared Sherman has them taking Iowa’s Brandon Scherff.  Replacing Mike Iupati seems to be a high priority for many draft experts.

This, however, ignores the fact that the 49ers drafted Mike Iupati’s replacement last season.  Iupati’s contract, expiring at the end of 2014, wasn’t exactly a surprise, so the 49ers addressed the position with their third-round pick.

Brandon Thomas, the massive guard from Clemson, is currently penciled in as the starter at left guard, and while there’s no guarantee he’ll have success from day one, he’s easily the most overlooked starter on the team for 2015.

Let’s start with the downside first.

Thomas fell to the third round last season because he tore his ACL in predraft workouts.  He’s part of Trent Baalke’s recent trend of drafting injured players and stashing them for a season or two.  This strategy has yet to pay big dividends, with Marcus Lattimore retiring without ever seeing the field and Tank Carradine so far underwhelming.

So far, none of the players taken with injury concerns under this program have turned out to pay big dividends for the 49ers.

That being said, it’s been a full year since Thomas’ ACL tear, which is more than enough time for him to get fully healthy.  It was a clean tear, unlike the massive damage that had been done to Lattimore’s knee or even the nasty knee injury NaVorro Bowman suffered in the NFC Championship Game two years ago.

Thomas is reportedly fully "ready to go" in the offseason program, according to Baalke, per Cam Inman of the Bay Area News Group (viaThe Press Democrat's Grant Cohn).

A fully healthy Thomas isn’t a third-round quality player.

Rotoworld had Thomas as a “first-round player on game tape,” calling him a “potential first-round sleeper” who was one of their “favorite O-line prospects to watch”.

NFL Network analyst Daniel Jeremiah said he would be an “immediate interior OL starter”, while NFL Media draft analyst Mike Mayock had him as the draft’s third-best guard, behind Daniel Yankey and Xavier Su’a-Filo.  MMQB’s Greg Bedard compared him to Brian Waters, the six-time Pro Bowl guard for the Kansas City Chiefs.  This is high praise!

Thomas isn’t the same kind of bruising run-blocker Iupati was.  Instead, he succeeds by finding good angles and using stellar positioning to block out defenders, rather than simply flattening them and moving on.  He’s a bit more athletic overall than Iupati; he’s very light on his feet for a 320-pounder.  He can get out to the second level without too many issues, paving the way for the backs behind him.

He certainly is comfortable working in space; he served as Clemson’s left tackle in his junior and senior seasons.  This projects well to his ability to pull or otherwise maneuver around, rather than just being an iron block in the middle of the line.  Mobility for guards is an underrated trait, and Thomas has it in spades.

As a pass protector, Thomas is light-years ahead of Iupati.

He handled last year’s No. 1 pick, Jadeveon Clowney, in their matchup in his senior season.  He doesn’t get beaten by pure speed; opposing rushers are going have to bring a move to the table to get around Thomas.  Pure power won’t do it, either—Thomas simply absorbs them, getting set quickly, using his powerful hands to steer rushers away and his strong knees to absorb the pressure.

With help on both sides as a guard, rather than out on an island as a tackle, he should be even better.  Sometimes, as a tackle, he would get too isolated and let rushers come back with an inside move to get at the quarterback.  That’s not as big of an issue in the center of a line.

Thomas is a smart player, as well.  A lot of NFL-bound college linemen, especially those taken in the middle rounds, seem satisfied to use their overwhelming strength and speed advantages to dominate lesser college players, but Thomas isn’t that sort of player.

His execution is top-notch, other than occasional pad-level issues, and he has excellent awareness as well.  He is almost always in the correct position to make a play, rather than relying simply on his athleticism to win battles.  That’s a point in his favor.

Is Thomas guaranteed to be a stud from day one in the NFL?  No, of course not.  He’ll be someone to watch closely during the offseason workout period, just to see how his knee holds up.  There’s also always the concern of a player with no NFL experience coming in and taking over a starting role.

However, the sheer number of people suggesting the 49ers use a first-round pick on the position seems to entirely ignore Thomas’ potential.  It seems people are writing him off as a failed pick before he even has a chance to compete for the starting role, which seems shortsighted.

Yes, the 49ers have a long-term need at the position with Alex Boone’s contract set to expire at the end of this season.  Yes, the 49ers could use competition at the position, considering Thomas’ complete lack of NFL experience.

These are great reasons to draft an interior offensive lineman in the mid- to late rounds, not one to go for a player in Round 1.  By all means, the 49ers should look for a player such as Alabama’s Arie Kouandjio or Louisville’s John Miller on Day 2 in order to bolster their offensive line corps and produce a potential replacement for Boone should he leave.

However, using a first- or second-round pick on a guard, with Thomas already in the fold, is a waste of resources.  Thomas has the potential to be a decade-long starter at the position.  He was drafted with the knowledge that Iupati was leaving after this season, barring a massive change in how the franchise values interior linemen.

Drafting a lineman in Round 1 this year invalidates the strategy from last year.  The only way it would make sense, rather than drafting a player at a position of greater need, is if the franchise believes that Thomas will not fully recover from his ACL tear.

With Thomas already participating in the offseason activities—you can see him several times in this clip the 49ers released, notably showing off his jumping prowess about 40 seconds in—that doesn’t seem to be the case.

While you can never be sure who the breakout player of a season will be—last year, I pegged Corey Lemonier, which, well, didn’t happen—Thomas has a great case to step into the lineup immediately and improve pass protection over a multiple-time Pro Bowler.  That makes him the most underrated starter the 49ers have in 2015.

 

[red80]

this is hilarious if true 

 
Kyle McLorg  ‏@Kyle_McLorgBASG   10m10 minutes ago

Source: midway thru 2014, York walked into meeting Harbaugh was holding w/ players, & Harbaugh told Jed that the meeting was for "men only"

 

[moe200069]

this is hilarious if true 

my dude jimmy with the fatality

 

[ccadalin]

 
this is hilarious if true 

That's my coach! 

 

[DonRafa]

 

[ady2glude707]

LOL Boone showed up to camp today, coincidentally after AD retired. He knows, RT $$$$$.

 

[hyper cutter]

harbaugh with that gut punch. putting that little weasel in his place. ***** *** York. **** York. little ***** *** York. punk *** York.

ol still has to have his pampers changed York. **** York.

 

[moe200069]

fams, I'm visiting cambodia right now but why am I having dreams about the 49ers upcoming season? just woke up from a dream that we were failing multiple times to punch it in at the goal line against the rams and that our oline was being pummeled


in any case, MY BODY IS READY