:::[Official] San Francisco 49ers 2024 Offseason Thread [NFC CHAMPIONS]:::

[red81]

who knows. it just sounds too good for us IMO. we move back 13 spots and get an all-pro DE. maybe he wants to play here because he knows we have a ton of $$$. 

 

[red81]

[h1]FINAL MOCK: VOL. “BIG PEOPLE BEAT UP LITTLE PEOPLE” [/h1]
With this draft, we get back to what got us to the Superbowl 3 seasons ago and shore up the trenches. No frills and no fluff. Chip and Trent are philosophically in agreement on two things: big, physical players and pounding the ball. With that said, Trent reloads and fortifies the walls of the fortress on both sides of the ball. We get bigger, stronger and meaner across the board with some high-character human beings.

Trades:

49ers trade Colin Kaepernick to the Broncos for 94 overall pick in round 3
49ers trade 7 overall to Tennessee for the 15 and 43 overall picks
49ers trade 43 and 105 overall to Carolina for the 30 overall
[h2]Round 1: Pick 15th overall: Jack Conklin, OT, Michigan State - 6'6", 308 LBS, 35" arm length[/h2]
Powerful and quick off the ball. Conklin has the size, length and strength to thrive in Chip's downhill inside-zone scheme. Capable in pass protection, but where he excels is in the running game. Loves to get downhill and pancake a defender. Not the greatest athlete, but he makes up for his shortcomings with tenacity and unwavering fight in him. Says he tailors his game after Joe Staley; now has the opportunity to learn from him directly. Well-coached, physical and a natural fiery competitor. Conklin brings his lunch pail to work every game. Does not back down from challenge. Went toe-to-toe with Oregon's Deforest Buckner and gave him everything he could handle. With Joe Staley only getting older, Anthony Davis being unreliable, and only Trent Brown showing promise, the depth at tackle is shaky, so Trent takes one of the best tackles in the draft with the mental makeup and physical, tangible attributes that Chip Kelly covets at the right corner.
[h2]Round 1: 30th overall: Vernon Butler, DT, LA TECH -  6'4", 323 LBS, 35 1/8" ARM LENGTH[/h2]


49ers have done extensive research on Butler and Baalke is infatuated with everything he sees. Trent jumps up to assure they secure this bad mofo. Vernon looks and plays the part of an *** kicker in the trenches. Has the desired combination of size, strength and athleticism general managers look for in their interior linemn. Carries every bit of 320 lbs with ease on his big frame. Went to the Senior Bowl and kicked everyones ***. From DE to NT, Butler is versatile enough to play anywhere along the interior. His 35 1/8" arms are longer than Deforest Buckner's arms. Butler, surprisingly, can fly off the ball for 320+ lbs man and can win with quickness, power and finesse in the trenches. Butler has the mentality of a hungry bear in the trenches looking to eat.  Very smart in the run game. Textbook technique when he stacks, sheds and locates the ball. An anchor in the run defense and provide a legitimate threat as an interior rusher with his quickness off the ball and variety of pass rush moves as a 3-technique in nickel package.
[h2]Round 2: 37th overall: Joshua Garnett, OG, Stanford - 6'4, 312 lbs, 33 7/8" ARM LENGTH[/h2]


Garnett has publicly campaigned his desires to be a 49er, and Chip has long been enamored with the Stanford power guard going back to his recruiting days at Oregon. Subsequently, Trent kills 2 birds with 1 stone and brings in the Stanford powerhouse guard. Garnett is a thick, powerful dude looking to finish and plaster you into the turf on every play. He's a downhill, drive-blocking cement mixer, yet athletic enough to get out in space and put a hat on a defender in open field. Garnett slides into the right guard spot right next to his new teammate, Jack Conklin, to form a nasty, road-grading duo on the right side.
[h2]Round 3:68th overall: Dak Prescott, QB, Mississippi State - 6'2", 226 lbs[/h2]


With sunshine as the only capable quarterback on the roster, Trent grabs a guy Chip sees as a fit for his offense. With repititve accuracy and the ability to get the ball out quick being high on Chip's desired QB traits, Dak fits the bill with his 66% completion, 29 touchdowns with only 5 interceptions in 2015. Built like Donovan McNabb and has a pesky Russell Wilson-play making element to his game, Dak great size, a strong arm and a good athlete to force the zone-read to be respected. His poise is  adequate. Highly respected as a leader by his peers. He has made strides every year and continues to improve, but he is very much a developmental project; with Kelly in his corner, Dak should continue to see his arrow pointing upwards.
[h2]Round 3: 94th Overall: ISAAC SEUMALO, OG/C, Oregon state -  6'4", 303 LBS, 33" ARM LENGTH[/h2]
With the right side of the line upgraded, Trent adds the finishing touch by addressing the center position and grabs one of the most underrated interior linemen in the draft. Pro-ready and a reliable interior linemen. Very Balanced, powerful and athletic, Isaac Seumalo is a stout anchor in the center of the line. Is versatile with his ability to play Center and Guard. Seumalo, like his new teammate Conklin, is one of the rare linemen that went toe-to-toe with Deforest Buckner and kicked his ***. With Kilgore's health a constant question, Seumalo plugs right in and starts from day 1 at center. 
[h2]Round 4: 133rd overall: Scooby Wright, ILB, Arizona - 6'0", 239 lbs, 30 1/2" ARM LENGTH[/h2]


It's Scooby time, *******. Scooby comes home to Northern California. a 2-star recruit coming out of high school that worked his *** off to put his name on the map. Like Borland, Scooby is an ugly, crude athlete, but he leaves it all on the field for his teammates. Extremely productive and plays with a competitive fire on the field. Instinctive, intelligent and gritty, Scooby was viewed as the best defensive player in the nation in 2014 until injuries derailed his success in 2015, which ultimately leads to him slipping to this spot. Stout run defender that rarely takes a false step, Scooby gets down hill quick in spite of his athletic shortcomings and loves to get his nose bloodied. Motor is like a Prius: it never runs out of gas. Scooby backups Bowman and Hodges and starts on special teams coverage.
[h2]Round 5: 142nd overall: Jaylon Smith, ILB, Notre Dame - 6'2", 240 lbs, 33" ARM LENGTH[/h2]
After his disappointing re-check in Indianapolis yesterday, Jaylon Smith will have to sit out 2016. He'll free fall after teams sour on him. Not much needs to be said here. Before his injury, it could be argued that Jaylon Smith was the best player in the draft. Low-risk, high-reward pick here on day 3.
[h2]Round 5: 145th overall: Dadi Nicolas, OLB, Virginia Tech - 6'3", 235 LBS, 34 3/4 ARM LENGTH[/h2]


Dadi could end up being one of the edge-rushing steals in the long run. Coming into 2015, Dadi was viewed as a first-round talent; however, he was severely miscasted as an interior linemen at VT and was plagued with hand injuries. Twitchy and athletic, Dadi has those long, 35-inch Dr. Octopus arms that Baalke covets in his pass rushers. Plays with relentless effort, active hands and excellent closing speed. Flies off the ball. Demonstrates multiple pass rush moves on tape. Shows understanding of set ups and counters against linemen in spurts. Had 18 tackles for loss and 8.5 sacks in 2014, but had production slip in 2015 due to multiple hand injuries. Needs to bulk up and get stronger, but that will be addressed inside a NFL weight room and cafeteria. With our defense likely to face more snaps, a pass rusher off the bench like Dadi will be invaluable. 
 
[h2]Round 5: 174th overall: Josh Ferguson, RB, Illinois - 5'9", 198LBS, 30" arm length[/h2]


Chip features a ton of wheel routes, swing passes and a myriad of other passes out of the backfield in his offense. He loves to flex his RBs as wide receivers. Ferguson fills that scatback, multi-faceted weapon out of the backfield that is integral to Kelly's offense. Ferguson has excellent pass-catching ability and is electric in space. Ankle breaker. Makes guys look silly with his ability to stop and go in the blink of an eye. Provides versatility with his ability to return kicks and field punts.
[h2]Round 6: 178th overall: Vernon Adams, QB, Oregon - 5'11". 200 lbs, 30 1/4"[/h2]


Whoa, I didn't see myself drafting Adams, but here he is. Trent, with Kelly's consultation, grabs a guy that knows Kelly's offense inside and out. Vernon Adams is facing incredibly long odds to be a quarterback in the NFL. Venerated former GM Gil Brandt called him a, "CFL-level quarterback". He was born with the sickle cell trait. He is too small, too brittle and too short to make it in the NFL, but in spite of all his physical flaws, he flashes a unique play-making ability on tape, and his self-confidence and desire to be great is infectious. he shows great leadership qualities and immeasurable heart. Baalke rolls the dice on the kid's intangibles. He sits back and learns with Dak. I'm rooting for you, kid.
[h2]Round 6: 207th overall: DJ Reader, NT, Clemson - 6'3", 340 lbs, 33 5/8"[/h2]
at 6'3 and 340 lbs, DJ Reader is the prototypical 2-gapping nose tackle in our 3-4. he's a giant man in the center that eats space. In football, the low man wins, and DJ Reader is consistently the low man at the point of attack. Plays with excellent leverage and pad level. Motor is nice for a man his size. With Vernon Butler and DJ Reader, we added enough human meat on our D-line to feed all of the bums and dope fiends in the Tenderloin. With Ian Williams out indefinitely, DJ Reader can slide right into the nose tackle position from day 1.
[h2]Round 6: 211th overall: James Bradberry, CB, Samford - 6'1", 211 lbs, 33 3/8" ARM LENGTH[/h2]
For the second year in a row, Baalke plucks a player from the small school in Birmingham. James Bradberry has the physical tools that make him a desirable project for a DB coach. Big cornerback with stout build and long arms, Bradberry looks just how Baalke likes them to look. Bradberry is a project that needs to refine his footwork, technique, and overall game, but he has the physical tools that are worth developing.
[h2]Round 6: 213th overall: Deiondre’ Hall, DB, Northern Iowa - 6'2, 200 LBS, 34 3/8" ARM LENGTH[/h2]


Baalke goes back-to-back with the developmental DB. Like Bradberry, Hall is small-school prospect with physical tools that defensive back coaches love to develop. Big body with long arms. He knows how to use his size to his advantage. Tenacious player that isn’t afraid to mix it up with big wide receivers. Smart football player with great instincts. A little stiff and not the fastest, but for a late-round pick, he has good size for the position that is worth the pick.

 

[bentrill]

I pray that mock actually is how it goes down. That would be one heck of a draft if it does.

 

[Final Bosa]

If you hit this pick for pick, you need to give me CA powerball numbers. Lol

 

[Los Angeles]

solid mock red, i can rock with it especially building the trenches back up.

not the sexiest draft at all but this squad has so many holes that needs to be filled.

 

[moe200069]

My goodness that boy reader is a wooly ******* mammoth

 

[red81]

[h2]ROUND 6: 178TH OVERALL: VERNON ADAMS, QB, OREGON - 5'11". 200 LBS, 30 1/4"[/h2]



 Whoa, I didn't see myself drafting Adams, but here he is. Trent, with Kelly's consultation, grabs a guy that knows Kelly's offense inside and out. Vernon Adams is facing incredibly long odds to be a quarterback in the NFL. Venerated former GM Gil Brandt called him a, "CFL-level quarterback". He was born with the sickle cell trait. He is too small, too brittle and too short to make it in the NFL, but in spite of all his physical flaws, he flashes a unique play-making ability on tape, and his self-confidence and desire to be great is infectious. he shows great leadership qualities and immeasurable heart. Baalke rolls the dice on the kid's intangibles. He sits back and learns with Dak. I'm rooting for you, kid.

I'm rooting for Vernon Adams. This dudes heart and desire to prove the naysayers wrong has inspired me.

 

[req81]

Red Im usually down with you but that mock was a pipe dream [emoji]128514[/emoji][emoji]128514[/emoji]

 

[CrownRoyalDaddy]

Havent been in here for over a week but i was heartbroken when i saw that Rams trade a few days ago. I wouldnt want us to give up all that but it does suck. If Buckner isnt there at 7 TRADE DOWN please.

Im all for rebuilding the trenches. Get it over and done with this year. Thats where it all starts. I think Gabbert can be a very solid QB with a good OL

 

[lightweight champion]

Is he a rich man's Alex smith, a poor man's Alex smith, or Alex smith?

 

[CrownRoyalDaddy]

I think that like Smith, were going to have to see him in an offense run by a competent offensive mind before we can judge him

 

[red81]

Red Im usually down with you but that mock was a pipe dream [emoji]128514[/emoji][emoji]128514[/emoji]

What part of it do you think is a pipe dream? I try to be as realistic as possible with the rounds I pick the players in. I use a wide variety of sources to project and predict a reasonable round for each player. Which ones do you think were a stretch?

Everything is conjecture, but I try to have rationale with everything I do. For example, the trade with Carolina at 30 stems from Carolina only having 6 picks in the entire draft. Tied for second fewest in the NFL.

 

[red81]

we're about 10 days away. 

2 names i do not want to hear called on april 28th: ronnie stanley and robert nkemdiche

 

[bentrill]

What happen to Noah spence? Just a month or two ago they were saying maybe top 15/10, now he might go late first or drop to the 2nd.

 

[red81]

i think teams were both disappointed with his performance at the combine and him throwing his teammates under the bus with the ecstacy ****.

 

[dharv]

we're about 10 days away. 


2 names i do not want to hear called on april 28th: ronnie stanley and robert nkemdiche

And Joey Bosa

 

[red81]

And Joey Bosa

 

[jonwin]

red81 Loved reading that full draft mock. Wouldn't be the most exciting draft but just like how 2010 draft focused on the o-line, it'd go a long way to building this roster back up.

Not a big deal at all but noticed for Scooby Wright's section, you typed "ARIZONA STATE" as his school when he went to ARIZONA. Doesn't mean anything in this convo and this thread but as a fellow transplant living in Arizona, that is an egregious mistake for Arizona locals . Let's say Scooby himself would not be happy if he were to see that

 

[red81]

lol whoops my bad.  

 

[red81]

revisited ronnie stanley today one last time before the draft

make no mistake about it, this dude is extremely talented. Arms are long as hell, and he takes full advantage of them. he consistently gets his hands on and inside his defender. plays with really good discipline. feet are so damn nice. Mirrors pass rushers with great technique, patience and discipline. even when he gets beat, he doesn't panic and abandon his technique.

lawson gave him his toughest match up by far of all the games i watched, but even then he pretty much broke even with lawson. gave up zero sacks.

it's too bad bosa got kicked out the fiesta bowl early. would've loved to see him and stanley go at it.

My knocks still stand: he needs to greatly improve his upper body strength, and his demeanor is so blah. He rarely gets nasty on tape. I think i saw him flatten someone once in 5 games.i just wish he was a little nastier. its personal pet peeve of mine. i like my players to have that dog in 'em, especially when you make a living going to war in the trenches against grown men. those questions that persist about his work ethic and passion for football scare the crap out of me.

who knows how he translates to the NFL. he definitely has a lot of traits that translate to the NFL.

one thing that popped into my head while i watched his tape was how good he was at dealing with speed rushers. those speed rushers pete caroll loves like chris clemons and cliff avril that gave anthony davis fits is the past are food for stanley due to his quickness, length, and disciplined technique.

 

[red81]

Man, if Buckner gets passed the Chargers, all it might take to secure him is a 3rd to jump Baltimore, a 3rd we'll have to spare after we trade kap. Crunched the numbers on the draft value chart.

I would do it.

 

[Los Angeles]

man gotta give it up to the rams really going for it, new city, new qb, draft slots all moved around.

how many more daysssss

 

[lightweight champion]

In the words of the great Dana Stubblefield..."NEW CITY, SAME OLD SORRY *** RAMS!!!"

 

[red81]

NFL scout called Myles jacks knee a ticking time bomb.

Bone and cartilage starting to erode. :x

 

[lightweight champion]

Yikes :x