Nike Air Yeezy Red October 2 Thread Officially Released VIA NDC 2/9. No BUYING/SELLING/TRADING.

Looking like an English class with all these essays of dudes being mad.

Middle school English class. Its only a couple of paragraphs.

All these dudes complaining about "essays" being written I'm guessing never made it to college.
 
kanye said something's dropping in sept
maybe the shoe, maybe not
im just REALLY curious to see how his designs turn out bc i hate adidas for the most part
never bought a pair , cant even recall a pair i wanted except when i was younger i really liked the pro models
and i hope his shoes are a lot more y-3, and a lot less 2 chainz / big sean / asap (the ones he wears) joints
There's no "the" shoe, there's going to be numerous shoes. And they're likely going to be GR's in most cases.

I don't see any Kanye/Adidas shoe cracking $1K values unless they do a low quantity QS with something REALLY interesting design wise. And really, why should there be? Kanye is now getting paid big bucks to have products that SELL for Adidas and earn them substantial revenues. With Nike his shoe was only done to create free publicity, marketing, etc. for Nike and to further inflate the demand and value of their other high demand shoes. The Yeezy model isn't what Adidas wants or needs.

What's so funny about Kanye is what a hypocritical d-bag he is. In that hilarious interview from the BBC that Kimmel roasted him on, he was busy talking about creating luxury and high demand, exclusive products that not everyone can have and how good he was at that. Now he's at his concerts railing against that exact formula and Nike. Whatever fits his agenda, whichever way the wind is blowing and whichever direction the dollars are flowing from. It does amuse me he acts like he's such a visionary but then toes the line for exclusive products when that's what he's making and then is all about wide availability when he's getting paid to promote that. He's no visionary at all, just a slave to the almighty dollar.
 
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Pretty sure you need to go back and listen to the interview again. He's been saying he wants to create high quality goods that are available to the masses for quite some time now.
 
The manager at my Adidas Originals store told me over the weekend that there will be a ton of products all at different price points.  I guess Kanye took a bunch of shoes he really likes and kinda combined them to form the Adidas releases.  

I asked if the product will be limited, he said some will be (the more expensive products) and the cheaper items will be more of a general release.  

Wouldn't confirm any type of dates with me, literally smiled and said "no comment". 

I also asked if they are going to open stores to sell only Kanye's line.  He said "no comment" again.  
 
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Pretty sure you need to go back and listen to the interview again. He's been saying he wants to create high quality goods that are available to the masses for quite some time now.
Just like he's going to make education available to the masses through his fashion line? You can find him saying one thing and then the complete opposite on just about every subject cause he's a maniac. Clearly right now he's pushing his "for the masses" agenda, but there's plenty of examples of him contradicting himself in the past. Kanye is just about whatever makes him look and feel most important, and Nike not giving him a shoe deal certainly didn't fit his current agenda or appeal to his ego.

I give him 3 years with Adidas before they figure out that their overall bottom line isn't improved with him. Just like the Y-3 thing has been a piss in the bucket for Adidas too. FWIW, when I was a competitive runner I often preferred Adidas runners over Nikes as far as durability and comfort went. But their design game has always been lacking and whether it's Yamamoto or Kanye, no one is going to single handedly improve their designs across models, especially in the bball arena.
 
I wasn't arguing anything... simply proposing a question. A question that obviously made you very upset.


:lol: Handmade art that can never be duplicated, with only one single example existing on the planet ≠ "Limited" sweatshop sneakers with 3000+ existing on the planet. The fact someone would even allude to such an absurd notion is a prime example of just how delusional people are when it comes to this shoe.


not upset in the slightest... :lol: don't mistake my thorough retort as emotion, it's just logic.

the fake advocates just make no sense to me. go find a cheaper hobby if you can't afford authentic shoes.

the way you presented your question made it sound like you're one of them.

and it's not a far off comparison. but i was more talking about how art can be duplicated (don't know why you think it can't, fakes get passed off real and sold all the time in the art world), faked, printed, etc... yet the hardcore collectors gun for the original, authentic, piece.

you can take that out of context and call me crazy to support your crap if you want, but end of the day you know the point i was making. :wink:


Your "logic" is full of opinions and assumptions.



Im not taking anything out of context, only quoting your words. You specifically said that comparing 1/1 art to 1/3000+ sneakers is a "great comparison". :lol:




For the record: I dont support fakes.... but I dont knock anyone who cant afford the real thing and chooses to wear them. I own lots of highly desirable shoes that exceed the average persons budget, but I dont consider myself "someone who takes this seriously" or look down on people who wear fakes as "Beastly". That's a ridiculously immature attitude that oozes entitlement and compensation for low self esteem. I feel sorry for grown men who place such a high level of importance on what they wear on their feet.






you basically said that people who are hardcore collectors who pay top dollar for the ACTUAL REAL shoe, are idiots.

that's you assuming way too much about people's own finances and what they can and can't afford, and also subjective, cuz just cuz having the real thing doesn't matter to you, doesn't mean it doesn't matter to them.

but maybe if you left it there, i'd have not replied.

but to imply that people who spend hundreds on fakes are less idiots is HILARIOUS...

they spent all that money and still don't even have the shoe. :lol: and they'll prolly fall apart quickly.

how are you an idiot for paying $3K for these anyways? when you can wear them, take care of them, and possibly sell them for an actual profit in a couple or few years?

i spent $1350 on my solars, have worn them, and can now sell them for over $2K if i wanted to... :lol:


:lol: Was this directed at me ? >D you really are mad



Im not assuming anything about peoples finances, but you sure are assuming alot about me. I hope the irony of your statements isn't lost on you... but it probably is. :rolleyes


Understand that living within your means does not equate to having sound priority's. Sneakers are made to be worn and enjoyed. Anyone looking at sneakers as a long-term investment is seriously misguided.
 
Does anyone see Kanye using a variation of the Yeezy designs w/ Adidas?


kinda but mostly no if anything there might be a few slight things from the yeezys here and there but nothing major just my opinion
 
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yeah, think you got that part of the interview wrong, he was saying that higher quality stuff needs to be more affordable to everyday people.

i was told by a credible source that nike scrapped that high quality leather we saw on the Y2 prototype's toe box for the cheaper mesh, and kanye was not happy about it.... he wanted the Y2 to be more premium than it is, but same price point. and nike was having none of it... they were just trying to use kanye to build hype for the brand, which is why they wanted to keep his stuff limited...

in the end, they offered him the deal he wanted, total creative freedom, on a full line of stuff, in bigger quantities, and not just shoes, except they wouldn't give him royalties... which i'm sure athletes get, so he was prolly offended (nike prolly thought he would take it anyways tho, cuz he has always worn more of their shoes than any other).

adidas gave him all that and his royalties, so he bounced. makes sense.

nike doesn't NEED kanye, but where they're taking a bigger L than him, is he has obviously been a major influence in fashion, and pretty much everything he wears catches on, from rappers, to comedians, to random people, and he's coming out of nike RED hot, with 6 shoes that have gotten more hype for the brand than any other (yeezy 1's set the record for longest camp out evar, and then off a rumored RD, heads tried to line up a full month ahead of the solars, and nike canceled the release date, and only announced it a week ahead of time in june 2012... plus, how many shoes have nike put out produced in numbers as big as these that have resold for this much? the usual ones, like eminem and undefeated 4's, were produced in super small, single digit numbers) so now he's about to make adidas a little bit cooler than they were... which hurts nike more than anything else... people who've never paid attention to adidas are about to be copping their products... not to mention adidas is nike's only true competitor, and he's about to make them money nike coulda been making off of him... the little bit of royalties they woulda paid out doesn't compare to the profit they coulda made off of him, not to mention more and more hype, which is what they want the most, so it makes no sense...

the difference between kanye and the athletes they sign, is he actually has way more input on the product, where as athletes are usually just the face of the brand and in house designers handle the design process. but the other difference is kanye has a broader reach than just sports fans, he's helped nike dip into the hip hop culture market more than they were b4... why you think they were giving out solars and plats to any d-list celeb that wanted them? why you think they're putting out all these corny shirts about "swag"? :lol: they were strongly going after that market. trying to be hip, and not just appeal to sports players and fans...

people don't realize this in america, but adidas does really well, they have a practical stranglehold on soccer, and it's the biggest sport in the world. it's not like kanye went to sketchers... :lol:
 
noticed that FC consignees are coming down from their 6-6.5K price range. Down around the 5 range. One for 4.5K.


Sellers what have you sold your pair for? :nerd:


Trying to get a median valuation for trading purposes.
 
noticed that FC consignees are coming down from their 6-6.5K price range. Down around the 5 range. One for 4.5K.


Sellers what have you sold your pair for? :nerd:


Trying to get a median valuation for trading purposes.
There was never a 6.5K listing on FC. Their starting quote was $6K. Yesterday an 11 sold for $5500 and a 12 for $6000. Today a 14 sold for $5750 in less than a half hour. I've been keeping an eye on it, and the average selling price on FC has been close to $5800 spread across 9 pairs sold (not counting anything that sold off the site and can't be seen). People can list at whatever they want, and some dudes have a price in mind and are setting it to get that price quickly. That's how it works.

But I would not take the FC/high end market for the personal sale channel price, which seems to still be floating between $3-4K depending upon your size. Those 14's went awfully quick cause no one has been seeing those. Just like size 8. Size 11 seems to have sold the most on FC (3/9 pairs).
 
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There was never a 6.5K listing on FC. Yesterday an 11 sold for $5500 and a 12 for $6000. Today a 14 sold for $5750 in less than a half hour. I've been keeping an eye on it, and the average selling price on FC has been close to $5800 spread across 9 pairs sold. People can list at whatever they want, and some dudes have a price in mind and are setting it to get that price quickly. That's how it works. But I would not take the FC/high end market for the personal sale channel price, which seems to still be floating between $3-4K depending upon your size. Those 14's went awfully quick cause no one has been seeing those. Just like size 8. Size 11 seems to have sold the most on FC (3/9 pairs).

Reading is fundamental bruh I never said FC set the prices I specifically wrote "consignees". I know how FC works seeing as I am currently a consignee and have been for quite some time.


And I'm just gathering info right now, some people go with FC valuation others value the shoe differently.


Appreciate the reply though.
 
There was never a 6.5K listing on FC. Their starting quote was $6K. Yesterday an 11 sold for $5500 and a 12 for $6000. Today a 14 sold for $5750 in less than a half hour. I've been keeping an eye on it, and the average selling price on FC has been close to $5800 spread across 9 pairs sold (not counting anything that sold off the site and can't be seen). People can list at whatever they want, and some dudes have a price in mind and are setting it to get that price quickly. That's how it works.

But I would not take the FC/high end market for the personal sale channel price, which seems to still be floating between $3-4K depending upon your size. Those 14's went awfully quick cause no one has been seeing those. Just like size 8. Size 11 seems to have sold the most on FC (3/9 pairs).

How do you see what sizes sold for on FC?
 
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